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Turion X2 Vs. Core Duo anyone know?

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Thread Starter 
im looking to buy a new laptop, so far im really diggin the new HP DV9000 series, and since the release of the P4 ive been an AMD fan. but with this new Core Duo and Core 2 Due release im wondering if intel finally got it together.. does anyone out there have personal experience with the new intel processors and the Turion X2? and/or have benchmarks between the two. im pretty much looking to get this laptop as a desktop replacement, and so far HP seems to be the best bang for your buck. but i dont want to get one without knowing how good the other is. and i was told the Core 2 Duo is supposed to blow the Core Duo away. any recomendations? or benchmark results would be great. thanks for the help
post #2 of 23
Core Duo 2 is the one to get, period.
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
alrighty that sounds great and all... but i mean.. do we have any benchmark numbers on that? im not looking for personal opinion, im looking for hard numbers showing a performance difference
post #4 of 23

Depends upon what you want

The core duo is faster in the benchmarks. However, having owned both (Acer 5672 with the 1.63G Intel Core Duo and the HP dv6040us with the 1.6G Turion 64 x2), I find little difference when running my normal applications (which include MS Office, Elements, Corel PSP, and CAD applications). Games are more likely to benefit from the video chip set/GPU, so if that is your main focus, get the one with a better GPU (the Acer, with the Ati x1400 runs circles around the HP with the nvidia 7200).

Oh, I returned the Acer because it did not run some of the CAD s/w as well, and in many instances, the duo core was not used to it's full capabilities (the Turion x2 seems to work with all applications in duo mode). Also, there was the issue of heat - the x1400 with the T2300 ran much hotter (close to 105F) than the TL52 and 7200 (about 85F under the same conditions).

Build wise, the HP is much better (except that the Acer keyboard has better feel and layout for the right shift key). The HP scroll pad, touch controls for the volume and playback, standard remote, and finish are better. The Acer did have a nice 4 way scroll button, but the overall ergonomics goes to the HP.

So, if you want a gaming machine, perhaps the core duo with a solid GPU would be the first choise. If you want 64 bit windows (without having to get a CPU upgrade to the T7xxx core 2 duo), then the Turion 64 x2 processor would be the one to get. I like the AMD, but most on this forum would go with the intel core duo for gaming (remember, that is what the main topic of this forum is).

Wayne

(who likes his dv6040)
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Thread Starter 
ahh thank you very much... i appreciate your help... i know im in the wrong place here.. but im accually looking into the dell xps 1710... its a bit more expensive, but it does have that core 2 duo and a good gpu geforce 7900gtx 512mb vram...
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Originally Posted by gt8684
ahh thank you very much... i appreciate your help... i know im in the wrong place here.. but im accually looking into the dell xps 1710... its a bit more expensive, but it does have that core 2 duo and a good gpu geforce 7900gtx 512mb vram...
These are not the links I was thinking of, but they may have some useful info in them. From everything I've read the new Core Cuo 2 "spanks" the offerings from AMD... is about 15-20 % faster depending on the app, and gets better battery life. Ran across a write up on the 1710, with the new IntelCoreDuo 2... article mainly pointing out for "gaming", the unit was not much faster than a Core Duo machine (which is NOT a surpise since the GPU is a major factor on a gaming machine) ... They did point outthe XPS M1710 showed a remarkably long, 4-hour 16-minute battery life. A poster in another thread saying that's 103 minutes more than a "regular Core Duo chipped machine. http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_XPS_M17...2.html?tag=nav http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=832&cid=1 http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=280 If you need more "info"
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"On a normal office productivity, we see a massive improvement of 37 minutes in battery life compared to the old Core Duo CPU. Floating point operation has improved drastically from the Core Duo to the Core 2 Duo making Intel's latest mobile processor a more capable and versatile CPU that puts it on the same footing as desktop CPUs. Heat remains on par with the Core Duo CPU, so don't expect the next generation laptops to run any hotter than they are now."


http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=11
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Dell XPS M1710 (Intel Core 2 Duo)
REVIEW DATE: 08.28.2006

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2008639,00.asp
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Trusted Reviews

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Originally Posted by gt8684
im looking to buy a new laptop, so far im really diggin the new HP DV9000 series, and since the release of the P4 ive been an AMD fan. but with this new Core Duo and Core 2 Due release im wondering if intel finally got it together.. does anyone out there have personal experience with the new intel processors and the Turion X2? and/or have benchmarks between the two. im pretty much looking to get this laptop as a desktop replacement, and so far HP seems to be the best bang for your buck. but i dont want to get one without knowing how good the other is. and i was told the Core 2 Duo is supposed to blow the Core Duo away. any recomendations? or benchmark results would be great. thanks for the help

Trusted Reviews has some benchmarks available on a core2 duo system. If you look at some of thir older reviews on Turion X2 and core duo some comparisons can be made.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/articles.aspx?sec=13

I did a lot of switching back and forth between articles and came to the conclusion that the core2 mobile chips do not have the as large of a performance advantage as their desktop brothern enjoy, but nevertheless are still the fastest thing in a notebook these days. Plus, given the addition of x86-64 support, there is no advantage left to owning a turion X2. Since the Core2 wins the battery life battle and should also win the price battle, it seems to me to be a pretty easy choice for anyone buying a "performance" laptop. It seems kinda weird for me to say that given that I have been an AMD fanboy for years...but the benchmarks don't lie.
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by bobcat7677
Trusted Reviews has some benchmarks available on a core2 duo system. If you look at some of thir older reviews on Turion X2 and core duo some comparisons can be made.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/articles.aspx?sec=13

I did a lot of switching back and forth between articles and came to the conclusion that the core2 mobile chips do not have the as large of a performance advantage as their desktop brothern enjoy, but nevertheless are still the fastest thing in a notebook these days. Plus, given the addition of x86-64 support, there is no advantage left to owning a turion X2. Since the Core2 wins the battery life battle and should also win the price battle, it seems to me to be a pretty easy choice for anyone buying a "performance" laptop. It seems kinda weird for me to say that given that I have been an AMD fanboy for years...but the benchmarks don't lie.


Yep... Core Duo 2 is the one to get, period.

A simple search will bring up tons of benchmarks, that's why I didn't link to them in my first post.
post #11 of 23

X2 Turion

I'm getting the HP DV6000z which is a notebookthat I customized on HP's site that has a Turion X2 1.6GHz with 2Gigs of RAM, 120 Gig Hard Drive, Nvidia 7200 GO (256MB) WLAN a,b,g, Lightscribe DVD-RW Drive and ect. I too prefer AMD and I'm a AMD fan also. The Rep. @ HP that I spoke to regarding a question I had about the WLAN Card first response was wow you have a sweet and powerful notebook. So give HP a try because you can customize the DV6000z or
the DV900z which I would not recommend due to the battery life. Give Turion X2
a shot.
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post #13 of 23
get core 2 duo
post #14 of 23
the core 2 duo isnt cheap compaired the turion x2 tl-60 i got the tl-60 for the price of a low to mid rang core 2
post #15 of 23
core 2 duo is better price/performance ratio then any of the amd processors. Do a google search then pull out a calculator.
post #16 of 23
For what you get, Core 2 Duo is a win.
All that Core Duo lacked that Turion X2 had was 64-bit.
Now that that gap is filled, turion X2 is eating dust.
Its still a strong mobile dual core processor, but the Core series are much bettery for battery life as well as performance in a laptop.
Its really only 1 or 2 hundred more, but you get much more.
And I was looking at the hp's dv9000t series too, but I chose hypersonic because I wanted a top of the line machine... which is already outdated... and I haven't even gotten it yet -.- oh well. DX10 isn't my thing.
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by TheFlyingPig
but I chose hypersonic because I wanted a top of the line machine... which is already outdated... and I haven't even gotten it yet -.- oh well. DX10 isn't my thing.

Sounds interesting ,

Hypersonic CX7
--------------------------

Intel Core 2 Duo T7400

Nvidia GeForce Go 7950 GTX

Corsair 2GB DDR2 PC5300

160GB 5400rpm SATA



How much?

PS: Got a link to the unit you ordered?.. and would you happen to know who "really" mfg's the Hypersonic CX7??? Compal?


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post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by link1313
core 2 duo is better price/performance ratio then any of the amd processors. Do a google search then pull out a calculator.
I am not really sure about that my friend. You see, i was considering on buying a core duo or core 2 duo system at BestBuy. i have no need for strong video card, thats why i am gonna get Nvidia 6150 which is integrated. anyways, back to your poinr. For $999, bets buy was offering: AMD 64 X2 1.6 Ghz, 1GB RAM, 120GB HDD, LightScribe DVD burner, webcam+mic, nVidia 6150 video card. I am not an AMD fan, but i was looking sooo hard for a CD or C2D system with enhanced integrated video card (nvidia 6150/ati 1150) for less than $999, and i couldnt find anything.
post #19 of 23
C2D is the superior chip all the way around, clock for clock, total power, and especially battery consumption, except maybe price.

The AMD's are much cheaper, but I have yet to run across a good price/performance benchmark to see exactly were all the different chips fall.

So if money is an issue, save some and go with an X2 mobile, if not go with the far superior C2D line.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by archalien View Post
C2D is the superior chip all the way around, clock for clock, total power, and especially battery consumption, except maybe price. The AMD's are much cheaper, but I have yet to run across a good price/performance benchmark to see exactly were all the different chips fall. So if money is an issue, save some and go with an X2 mobile, if not go with the far superior C2D line.
Well stated. The Core 2 Duos are without question better performers. If you are only going to be using the laptop for light tasks such as office productivity, surfing the web, or listening to music; or if you are on a tight budget, then it would be perfectly acceptable to choose an AMD. However I would highly advise you choose only from 3 new CPU's just recently released from AMD. They are the Turion X2 Ultra models, which is part of AMD's newly released "Puma" platform. One good laptop that features this platfrom is the HP Pavilion dv5z.
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