Windows VISTA PRE-RC1 Thread - Page 6

I have just discovered that the failed attempts on installing Vista creates a windows.old.ooo , oo1. folder, they each were
5+ gigs in size, and they don't want to delete easily.

I am using a wipe program to remove them.

my profile got corrupted some how and now it won't get past the login screen.

So, I removing the Vista install and going to re-install again

That's what I was thinking. The real test comes in, like I said earlier, Doom 3 and Quake 4 on ultra settings would be best.

Hey SSChicken, I tried Quake 4 on Ultra settings with 2X AA. Althought when it was running it was fine, it would have little stutters mostly when outside with intense smoke billowing. On High settings with 16x AA it seemed to run fine. Here are my specs.

XPS M170
2 gigs of ram.
7800 GTX 450/1250
Windows Vitsa ultimate
Nvidia Vista Drievrs 96.33

I am going to try Half Life 2 episode 1, Rise of Legends and Titan Quest later tonight.

Will post some reports here later.

I have disabled a few things in Vista and tried Quake 4 on ultra settings again. It actually seemed quite playable. Here is what I disabled.

1-Right click MY COMPUTER and select manage. Once in COMPUTER MANAGEMENT scroll down to services. Under services I disabled WINDOWS DEFENDER. Remember if you disable Defender to remove it from your startup using MSCONFIG. If not you will get an annoying warning message.

2-While in COMPUTER MANAGEMENT under services now disable and stop WINDOWS SEARCH.

3-Before starting any games, shut down WINDOWS SIDEBAR from the task bar. Right click the SideBar Icon, and selet EXIT. A warning will pop up. Just select ok. Confirming you want to exit.

4-If you have MSN Messenger installed shut it down also. Same way windows as sidebar.

You can restart any of these programs and services if you so wish to do so.


When running Quake 4 on ultra High video settings I was able to get +50 FPS and as low as 26 FPS during intense gun fights(1600X1200 16:9). I didn't think that was to bad. I turned off AA for this test. I will post some screen shots.

My system Specs are

XPS M170
2 gigs of ram.
7800 GTX 450/1250
Windows Vitsa ultimate
Nvidia Vista Drievrs 96.33


Cheers

Bug with MCE: After about the second or third show that plays (possibly after just running to long?) the audio glitches. It never happens while playing a show so if it starts ok it will finish ok... The bug is, I play a video and it will replay the first second of audio over and over and over... This happens on recorded TV, Live TV, Videos, and HDTV. It can be fixed by just restarting the MCE app.


I'll follow that up with a very nice new feature... Sometimes on 2k5, I would get overrun with HD video. My wife insists on keeping every results episode of "so you think you can dance" and "American Idol" in lovely HD, so from time to time I will copy these from my HTPC to my 1TB Raid. On old 2k5 (without resorting to hacks) you had to watch these under "My Videos" instead of TV. One main problem with that is you can't resume a half-watched Video, resume only worked from TV. Now there is a place to specify different locations to look for Recorded TV at. I can now keep all those SYTYCD, American Idol, and all my network-aired HD Movies in my TV section and resume them if they are only half watched.

I take that last part back. I had a USB Drive with all my backed up videos there, and was able to add those as "recorded TV"... so I assumed you could do it with network drives... You can't. I even tried regedit and a few other ways to get network drives in there but it's not working... You can back up your TV on USB drives though.

Access time - believe it or not, it really does work. A big part of the advantage is that flash read speeds are higher and the access time for good flash memory is way higher (no read head to position.) Remember that paged out data is often read back in in a non-sequential order this is where you get a big win out of flash (because non-sequential reads are something hard disks are particularly bad at.)

Just an update: I've moved to the 5600 RC-1 Build and it's faster and uses less resources. I'm having trouble with my printer drivers this go round for some reason but my 3DMark went up 200 point this build.

Were you using the pre-rc1 build before? I'm curious because I'm running that now, but just downloaded the 5600 RC1, but am curious if there is any real benefit (or disadvantage) of installing RC1 instead.

Well I am cosidering installing this lastest version as an Update now that I seen it work on my backup drive.

The compatability checks indicated I had to remove Norton System Works 2005, and EZ CD Creator 7 before I can install the upgrade.

Any DVD/CD Buring programs out there compatible with Vista yet?

How did you get RC-1?

I use Nero 6 with my Vista pre-rc1. I encountered one error going from the StartSmart to the BurningRom, but BurningRom works like a charm by itself. Burns are just fine.

I use AVG Anti Virus, and although it gives me an error on system boot, it will start manually no problem...

Oh, and I got RC1 from a Torrent. It should be released any day now anyways, I just wanted to avoid the mad rush. I do have a proper Beta 2 key and all that...

scratch that.

Vista RC1 is NOW AVAILABLE on the microsoft site:

http://download.windowsvista.com/pre...n/download.htm

edit: updated the download link... don't forget to get a key, if you don't already have one

I got the key from work and the disc image from the newsgroups. Microsoft has it through MSDN as well I believe but I get a 3.57MB/s download from the newsgroups and the MS server can get slow at times.



The Hard Drive Actually Stops once in a while! That's one good reason; like another poster the constant drive accessing in previous builds almost drove me the rest of the way to madness.

RC1 is faster; like snappy compared to pre-RC. Windows explorer is more responsive, 3DMark went up and used RAM resources went down (the least RAM used I saw with everything installed on pre-RC was ~620MB, today I saw 430MB in this version). If you have a key and access to it there is no reason not to use this one. I've moved with the last three or four builds and I've got re-installing everything down to an art. Before the pre and the RC builds I was very discouraged but these last two (esp 5600) I've tried have been actually fun to use.

On earlier builds the speed in copying to or from an external USB drive was just TERRIBLE, now ~35GB takes around an hour or so (I don't know if this is as fast as XP but it seems reasonable).

They also figured out how stupid it was to have the startup sound be the same right when the log in screen comes up and then again when you actually log in and the desktop is displayed. I know this is a small thing (that you could even change yourself) but the fact that they now use two different sounds says to me that they are trying to start polishing it up a bit to actually sell it to someone .

Ha, yeah, I know what you mean. Having two startup sounds in succession is silly. I don't use a password with my testing, so it just plays them one after the other. My Pre-RC1 only uses 450MB of ram normally, so I don't know if I'll see a benefit. I find the hard drive stopping annoying. I have to look into it, but I don't want my firewire drive shutting down after a period of time, it takes way too long to "boot up" the drive again (if I want it off, there's a power button there!).

But it does sound better than Pre-RC1, so I may take the plunge and reformat again this weekend.

Thanks!

Anyone try the 64 bit OS

may give that a try on my AMD 64 x2 AM2 system.

I haven't tried it, but aparently it's crap compared to the 32-bit version:

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_rc1_02.asp

"OK, there is one caveat. If you try to install an x64 version of Windows Vista, well, God help you. I have no idea what Microsoft was thinking with these products, but after getting over my initial euphoria at how good the hardware support was, I descended quite quickly into software compatibility hell. So unless I mention it explicitly, all the good news here applies solely to standard 32-bit (x86) Vista versions. The x64 stuff is still a nightmare. My guess is that it will always be a nightmare. So unless you have some specific workstation-type needs for more than 4 GB of RAM and very specific applications, please just skip out on x64 Vista versions entirely. There's no happy ending there and your sanity hangs in the balance."

I'm running the 64-bit version at work and it seems to work just fine. Doing development on it as well, so not exactly a normal user, but I've got the basic stuff going.

There's a difference in the drive being turned on and spinning and it being read/written from. I can't hear my drive when it's just spinning, but when the drive light is on and flashing I can hear it; this is what I'm complaining about no just the disk being turned on (I actually tell mine not to turn off until the laptop goes to sleep).

I got the logitech dinovo desktop stuff to work and it seems pretty reliable but we'll see how it goes, it lost the driver for the keyboard for a little bit and I had to go into device Mgr and scan for hardware to initiate a reinstalll, it's been good since though.

Good luck.

Not sure if you can order from here, but this price is sweet and it says it's high speed...