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Keeping tabs on Edgy's progress

post #1 of 15
9/2/06 at 10:59pm
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So Edgy is now in Knot 2 (aka Alpha 2) and before you know it we'll be seeing beta releases and stuff like that....we're about at the 1/2 way point now in Edgy's development. I should really be expecting more info / more alphas/betas to be comming out on a bi-weekly basis.

Anyway. here is some fun reading: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot2


personally I am excited for the new gnome 2.16, i found 2.14 to be a huge step forward from 2.12 and i expect the same night and day difference for 2.16. The new xorg 7.1 with AIGLX looks pretty exciting too....BUT if it in any way hurts my framerates in ET i am gonna throw it out the window. I wonder why they went with AIGLX and not XGL ...perhaps for that very same reason that XGL eats up too much opengl.

the updates to gaim 2.0 and firefox 2.0.....about time!

anyway: DISCUSS!
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post #2 of 15
9/3/06 at 2:30am
So does it support AIGLX out of the box? Do you know if it kills direct rendering like XGL does? (many opengl apps won't work without direct rendering, but things like glxgears will)

I'd love to use AIGLX or XGL, but I had too many problems with opengl apps. Google earth overlays were screwed up, blender was unstable and cedega stopped working. On top of that, my laptop would get too hot. I have to say, though, it did make my desktop feel more responsive.

I also hear metacity is looking really nice now. Some nice effects are supported now like true transparency. I'm kinda more excited about checking that out.
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post #3 of 15
9/3/06 at 11:39am
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yeah i believe aiglx shouldn't be as bad of a problem as xgl....at least i am keeping my fingers crossed that its not. kind of interesting that ubuntu chose to support redhat's rather than novel's product in the "eye candy war" ...we'll see. true transperancy would be so sexy with new metacity

so after some more reading up, because of the 2 month delay on Dapper, the Edgy development cycle is 2 months shorter, they should be rolling it out @ the end of october...I am not really excited, i would rather see Edgy be 6.12 rather than 6.10 because I don't want to see another Breezy (aka...horribly buggy final release)...they have just under 2 months time from today to roll out maybe 5 more testing releases, a preview and a final....thats a hell lotta work.
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post #4 of 15
9/3/06 at 12:19pm
I suppose its a little late to mention e17 already supports true transparency without either
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i would rather see Edgy be 6.12 rather than 6.10 because I don't want to see another Breezy (aka...horribly buggy final release)
They have already mentioned their release cycles are going to be based around a three release cycle. The first will have all the newest and greatest features, and the next two take that release and bring it up to enterprise stability, or so they hope. So I would definitly consider EEft to be less stable than Dapper already by that logic, not saying it wont be good, just probably not quite as stable. Seablade
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post #5 of 15
9/3/06 at 12:50pm
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that must be something new though because if we go back in history.

Warty 4.10 -- Rather bleeding-edge for when it came out, stable IF it worked.
Hoary 5.04 -- up to date but not bleeding edge, switched to Xorg from XFree. pretty stable
Breezy 5.10 -- Extremely unstable but rather up to date, lots of new technologies though
Dapper 6.06 -- up to date (for the most part) some nice technology changes (gstreamer .10 vs .8 in breezy), pretty stable but buggy
Dapper 6.06.1 -- bugfixes galore for the greatest ubuntu to date.

you know you're an ubuntu whore when you used every single one of the above releases

<----ubuntu whore
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post #6 of 15
9/4/06 at 2:46pm
I believe the style may have started with Hoary, not sure though.

Seablade
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post #7 of 15
9/5/06 at 1:28am
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Originally Posted by abf
that must be something new though because if we go back in history.

Warty 4.10 -- Rather bleeding-edge for when it came out, stable IF it worked.
Hoary 5.04 -- up to date but not bleeding edge, switched to Xorg from XFree. pretty stable
Breezy 5.10 -- Extremely unstable but rather up to date, lots of new technologies though
Dapper 6.06 -- up to date (for the most part) some nice technology changes (gstreamer .10 vs .8 in breezy), pretty stable but buggy
Dapper 6.06.1 -- bugfixes galore for the greatest ubuntu to date.

you know you're an ubuntu whore when you used every single one of the above releases

<----ubuntu whore

<----ubuntu whore
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post #8 of 15
9/5/06 at 2:59pm
I tried the latest edgy but Cedega does not work, so I went back to Dapper.

Alex
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post #9 of 15
9/5/06 at 10:02pm
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has to do with aiglx most likely
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post #10 of 15
9/6/06 at 2:46am
abc:
Is there some way to remove or deacivate that. Also the ipw3945 package works even worse (lots of disconnects) than the one on Dapper.


Alex
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post #11 of 15
9/6/06 at 6:11pm
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you can always build the ipw3945 from source i suppose and hope for better results, but no guarantees.

not really sure about aiglx...but there gotta be xorg 7.0 available in teh repos that does not contain it...
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post #12 of 15
9/7/06 at 12:43pm
Cedega seems to be having Perl or some sort of networking issues. The install goes along well untill it tries to contact transgaming with your account info. It just hangs indefinitely.
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post #13 of 15
9/7/06 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by adewolf
Cedega seems to be having Perl or some sort of networking issues. The install goes along well untill it tries to contact transgaming with your account info. It just hangs indefinitely.
I don't know why the network update doesn't work, but i'm pretty sure cedega is written in python, not perl.
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post #14 of 15
9/7/06 at 11:09pm
Has anyone tried the KDE 4 load for Kubuntu edgy. I'm going to download it when I get home and give it a spin.....

PDR60
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post #15 of 15
9/8/06 at 3:03am
Oops Python.... not Perl
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