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post #21 of 37
My NB is running on 800MHz, when I run it with Cabel too!

I use NHC too! I don´t know what your problem is?! When you run the CPU at full load, it is normal, that the temperature goes high! If you play games and more CPU is needed, than your clock goes automatic high! I don´t know, why you run your book at 1600MHz, because it is not necessary! And I think it is not good for the cpu to run it all the time on full speed!
post #22 of 37
LOL like i say i dont have a problem, its my preference to run it at that speed.... So desktop cpu you think should be clocked down to half there speed???? And you think maybe desktop cpu are better quality than laptop cpu???????
post #23 of 37
You can do, what you want! That´s right!
I think the Desktop-CPU didin´t run on full speed all the time too! Only if it is necessary!
post #24 of 37
LOL Really ...
post #25 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyFreak
Finally got the time to take the laptop apart and applied the OCZ Silver on and the temperature is now 44C at idle. Big improvement!

i was amaze how significant changes by applying silver paste to the processor, i'm planning to get the machine, i use to assemble and config for all my previous desktop but i have no experiance with laptop. izzit worth taking the new laptop apart to do so?


Quote:
Originally Posted by loggan26
Dl RMclock and reduce your cpu voltage testing using prime or game the hell out of it to test for stability as you go......I have reduced my vcore to 1.20v stable from i think 1.425 i think it was default. What a difference....Idle used to be about 50C and full load it could hit 70C when gaming.......After Rmclock and 1.20v its now sits at around 37c idle and about 57c full load gaming for hours, all in all i am very happy with the decrease in temps for such a simple mod...

Logan

logan, do you mind teach me how you do it? by software or in bios setting? sorry if i ask stupid question/...
post #26 of 37
RMClock is an Software! look
post #27 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by scone2ten
i was amaze how significant changes by applying silver paste to the processor, i'm planning to get the machine, i use to assemble and config for all my previous desktop but i have no experiance with laptop. izzit worth taking the new laptop apart to do so?

logan, do you mind teach me how you do it? by software or in bios setting? sorry if i ask stupid question/...


I wouldnt think it would be worth taking the laptop apart especially if you havent done it before....You can gain just as good temps using the RMClock utility and "it wont void your warranty"

I think maybe you were looking for something like this.

1. Download RMClock from here

2. Put it in a folder somewhere like C:\\Program Files\\RMClock\\RMClock.exe and create your shortcut to it if you like for your Start bar.

3. Run it, ie double click it. Take note of your Max and Minimal voltage along side your Max and Min Multiplier. On my ML-30 it was 4x multi = 1.0v and 8x = 1.40v. YOurs might be different for different cpu.



4 Next highlight the Profiles tab, highlight your highest multi and then move down to the VID Select drop down button and select a voltage slightly lower than your Max default i.e if its 1.45v then try 1.40v etc.



While your here you could set your Min default as well i.e 1.0v and try 0.95v etc.



Though its probably best to do one at a time until you find the lowest stable you can use for both Max and Min mutlipliers.


I have used my own settings here so max was 8x1.40v and its now down to 8x1.10v my min was 4x1.0v and is now 4x0.95v, yours will be different as not all cpu are the same. Lower a little at a time and test for stability using benchmark software like Prime SuperPi or game for a while. Make sure it is stable.

5. Next highlight a profile for this i have chose Performance ON Demand . Tick the Use P-State Transitions (PST) button, and then tick either or both your min and max multi's below it depending on which your testing or which your happy with. YOu can do this for Both the AC Power / Battery tabs its up to you.



Test and lower as you go until you have found the lowest stable voltage for both max and min.

6. When your happy its stable highlight the Management tab and untick the 2 CPU Defaults Settings buttons. Also tick the Start application minimised to system tray button and the Run application when Windows session starts button.



7. Also i dont know if this makes a diff but i have it checked so highlight the Advanced CPU Settings Tab and tick the Apply these settings at startup button. Thats about it.

Side Notes.
1. I dont have the Acer E-Management utility installed.
2. I have Always on in the Windows Power Management selection.
3. I am not an expert on RMClock so i am sure there is alot i dont know LOL. I dont mess with settings i dont know.....
4. I uninstalled NHC as RMClock has vcore temp monitoring, dont need 2 proggys just the one now.
5. I apologise now for hijacking this thread, it was not my intention......
6. Thank you to Stronzo .

Hope it helps

Logan.
post #28 of 37
Whay thank you to me? It is an very good Explanation! One Question to you loggan: Your FAN is still on, or?
Why didn´t you run it under 0,850?
post #29 of 37
post #30 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by loggan26
I hadnt set the lowest multi, as i had said earlier, as soon as i set it for this test it started doing what it should ie flicking on demand between the 2 speeds. I would not have done that if not for you. AS far as the low multi goes i dont know how low as yet stable i can go, i am sure lower v is attainable, its just that i havent tested yet and wanted to put a reply up. My fan is still on, Yes it is, WHY? WOuld it turn off or run slower you think when i lower the volts????????????????? I have just set it too 0.850v so will see how stable it is there for a while. Logan
No with the fan it´s only a question! Because if you set to an lower voltage the temperature goes down (you write that too I think), but the fan of the ferrari didn´t turned off! I thought if you have an lower CPU temp the fan turned off, but it isn´t so! ;( The fan is terrible of the Ferrari I think! But we have no choice to turn it off! It is evil! I test it with NHC, there is an possibility to turn the fan off with ACPI, but not for the ferrari! The fan in the Ferrari is hardware-contolled...over an embedded controller! Very bad, so set down the voltage is no possibility to turn off the fann too! Loggan: Edit your sig... An Acer Ferrari 4200??? What is that?
post #31 of 37
LOL yeah temp goes down but the fan stays at a constant rate. The only time i think heard a diff in fan speed was once i had uninstalled the e-manager utility, it slowed it some, at least on this lappy, since then it has been a constant rate, BUT its not that loud on this and i dont find it as annoying as some folks do .

LOL edited
post #32 of 37
If it is quiet in room and you write in Word...the fan sucks...Than it´s to loud! Because there no need to run the fan! If you play games, than you didin´t hear the fan! But at 37°C CPU it is not normal, the the fan blows...
post #33 of 37
thanks stronzo and loggan , specially for loggan for the clear explaination
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post #34 of 37
Jut new in this world.

I want to ask one thing? that is'nt there any easire way to get stabe computer at lower heat. I have'nt purchased any Laptop, but just wandering to purchase one. I am willing to purchase Acer Ferrari but also see very attractive options around, with Nvidia 7 Series and in cheaper price.

I have just thrown away my desktop as it was not stable, so I was willing to have this computer as I thought that it will be most reliable computer, because of its brand.

How stable this computer is? Laptops have shorter life? as they are taken every where you want to? greater movement? shorter life?

Is it so, or not. Please do tell me.

I feel that adjusting so many temperature settings may cause damage to hardware or may be make computer unstable, forever.
post #35 of 37
I´ve no Problems with heat! It is stable! I take the Book half an Year each day to work and back, no problem! Why should be the lifetime shorter?
post #36 of 37
I want to ask one thing? that is'nt there any easire way to get stabe computer at lower heat. I have'nt purchased any Laptop, but just wandering to purchase one. I am willing to purchase Acer Ferrari but also see very attractive options around, with Nvidia 7 Series and in cheaper price.

As Stronzo says the Ferrari is stable, its just a lil hot, you can't get much easier than this too cool it down though Which ever option you want for a lappy is your choice that is why there are so many opitons around. Cheaper aint always the best option .

I have just thrown away my desktop as it was not stable, so I was willing to have this computer as I thought that it will be most reliable computer, because of its brand.

LOL throwing away a computer cause it was not stable seems a little bit extreme to me but hey each to there own. AS for "THE MOst Reliable" laptop again its alot to do with preference, brand making it reliable hmmm, who knows you decide. I have no prob with the ferrari its a great performer.

How stable this computer is? Laptops have shorter life? as they are taken every where you want to? greater movement? shorter life?

As said already its stable. Lappy's tend to have a slightly shorter life than desktops, some would agree and some wouldnt, certainly lappys have got more reliable over the past few years. Knocks and bangs when traveling obviously will impact on how long it will "last", if you look after it there is no need for it too last any "Less" time.

Is it so, or not. Please do tell me.

I feel that adjusting so many temperature settings may cause damage to hardware or may be make computer unstable, forever.

IF you increase voltage settings then i might agree with you and then only then it would have to be a big increase in voltage to damage any hardware, what we are doing here is decreasing voltage, this will NOT damage your hardware, at most you will get a no boot scenario or BSOD. There is only 2 voltage settings you change, what so many do you mean

Logan
post #37 of 37
Thanks loggan and stronzo, that was great help.

Still one month to go for purchase, with refrence to too many options, I mean that loggan26 in your post on page 2, you have shown one complicated software, I was not able to understand it, may be I do not have it.... or so may be that is why I was feeling it complicated, but any how I was able to see alot of options in combo box, that is why I said too many options.
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