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post #1 of 48
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Whenever I make a BIG decision such as buying a new computer, I ask people what they think. It helps me put things into perspective. I don't always go with said advice but, I don't know everything so it's good to ask the best and brightest in these forums for their opinions. Now with that said I'm going to stray away from Alienware for this NEXT computer and heres why.

Before I jump into my thoughts on this I want to be clear on a few things first. I do not in any way shape or form, want to turn this into a flame/bashing thread against the company I love and will always love. Lets face it, Alienware has been making great gaming computers for a long time now with a style and personality all their own! If someone has any doubts on this I suggest you take a look at their time-line on their web-site!
http://www.alienware.com/innovations..._timeline.aspx

They rock!! They, as I see it, were the first and have opened the respective door for these other guys who'll I'll mention later. I didn't feel they (AW) distinguished themselves from the (great) Predator case very well though. A nice case on it's own but, P2 didn't really fall too short of more of a 1 to 1.5 as far as creative originality. I don't see this as a really new case. P2 is what it says it is though, Predator2. I like how the improvements were made over the Predator. But sadly, in the outcome, P2 lost most of it's "coolness" in it's transition out of the old Predator. I have been on again off again with this new case since it's arrival. I was disappointed about one fact from the beginning. The size of the case, in my opinion, is not a good choice for a Gamer/moder/enthusiast. I just feel the lack of bays in the top is a poor choice for the future and me. With what I'll undoubtedly pay for a new box, I want to be happy all the way with it. I wanted to see more inovation too, such as a removable mother board tray and some kind of window. Also, to be fair, I've never had my hands on this new P2 case so this is all opinion and without any concrete user awareness. I don't really need to of had it to know I'd be unhappy with the lack of bays, smaller size, and rather "kiddie" (with the exception of black), new look. I'm not bashing, I wouldn't. I've remained mostly positive in other threads. It's just that, now that I'm ready to start looking for my NEXT computer, my feelings are coming out. I feel like I'll skip this round of Alienware in the end and I'm sure that I'll look to them again in the future.

So, having said all that above, where will I end up? Who am I going with?? I still don't have a clue yet. I have a few Ideas but nothing close to closure. I was looking at this bad boy today. What do you all think of Velocity Mirco??



Either way, I'll be waiting till after Vista and DirectX 10 cards are out before I push any confirm buttons. I'm gearing up now for info though!! Thanks in advance to the best and brightest for any and all advice!!!
post #2 of 48
I understand what you're saying... I like some things about the new case, not so much some other features... It would be great if they still carried the original predator for a while.

I don't know anything other than what I've read online about smaller companies like VM.

Have you thought about just buying a new psu/mobo/processor/memory/vid card and upgrade your current system? You can throw the old hardware in a case and sell it on it's own. Might even save enough to have smooth paint the case...
post #3 of 48
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Have you thought about just buying a new psu/mobo/processor/memory/vid card and upgrade your current system? You can throw the old hardware in a case and sell it on it's own. Might even save enough to have smooth paint the case...

That's what I was going to suggest. You'd save cash on building it yourself + you'd already have the predator case. With that cash you could get a smooth creations paint job, maybe a nice watercooling system like nebby's, etc. I'd suggest FNW or Voodoo, if you have the cash...they are just so high.

The predator will always be classic, it was a big leap in design from anyone/anything else.
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and rather "kiddie" (with the exception of black)

whew...glad I ordered black . I see how the P2 could be too small for some, for me it's just about right. I don't game as much as I use to and wanted something that runs like a beast and looks cool.
post #4 of 48
I <3 Lian Li cases, even though those have been modded to death.

I just like how clean the lines are and how they have mb trays and plenty of space for modding.

my .02
post #5 of 48
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I understand what you're saying... I like some things about the new case, not so much some other features... It would be great if they still carried the original predator for a while. I don't know anything other than what I've read online about smaller companies like VM. Have you thought about just buying a new psu/mobo/processor/memory/vid card and upgrade your current system? You can throw the old hardware in a case and sell it on it's own. Might even save enough to have smooth paint the case...
I thought about that too but, my plan is to use this new box for games and photo editing and not go online with it so it stays bug free. I'll transfer patches of oudates via a 4-gig flash drive so it'll remain current. I think I prefer to have two computers going.
post #6 of 48
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I've been also looking at these guys for a while. I know they're over priced but, their case design is also a work of art. I've always loved the Voodoo look.

Does anyone have or know someone who does have one? I'd like to have any input on these. I know Rahul Sood is a sore subject in here but, I could care less about that guy, his computers are sharp though. Are they a good computer?? Aside from the beautiful case, the case design is smart too. I like how the case is micro-managed. The graphics cards, which are one of the hottest things in the case is up top rather then below where we usually See them. With heat rising, that's a better place for them I think!
post #7 of 48
those lian li cases...the mb is reversed plus easy to take out w/ a mb tray...perfect for watercooling and modding as u can see.
post #8 of 48
I'm not liking the new case either. I hope AW doesn't wait another 3 years before changing the box.
post #9 of 48
If you're serious about Voodoo, you should spend some time on their forums. If you go to their forums it'll take some time anyway, as their server is the slowest I've ever seen for a manufacturers forum... Anyway...

Voodoo does a nice job of finishing computers, but in my opinion they're way overpriced for what you get. I'd also refuse to deal with Mr. Sood due to personal experiences on his forums, and reading how they treat customers that have issues. I've read too many horror stories from customers, and seen too many outrageous replies to customers by Mr. Sood to ever consider overpaying thousands for a system, then be attacked personally and publicly as they have a habit of doing if there are issues with the machine.
post #10 of 48
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
If you're serious about Voodoo, you should spend some time on their forums. If you go to their forums it'll take some time anyway, as their server is the slowest I've ever seen for a manufacturers forum... Anyway...

Voodoo does a nice job of finishing computers, but in my opinion they're way overpriced for what you get. I'd also refuse to deal with Mr. Sood due to personal experiences on his forums, and reading how they treat customers that have issues. I've read too many horror stories from customers, and seen too many outrageous replies to customers by Mr. Sood to ever consider overpaying thousands for a system, then be attacked personally and publicly as they have a habit of doing if there are issues with the machine.

agreeed... the laptops arn't bad as overpriced goes... but the desktops are just friggin silly.......
post #11 of 48
d00kie, u r silly...u silly lil boy u...

post #12 of 48
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
If you're serious about Voodoo, you should spend some time on their forums. If you go to their forums it'll take some time anyway, as their server is the slowest I've ever seen for a manufacturers forum... Anyway...

Voodoo does a nice job of finishing computers, but in my opinion they're way overpriced for what you get. I'd also refuse to deal with Mr. Sood due to personal experiences on his forums, and reading how they treat customers that have issues. I've read too many horror stories from customers, and seen too many outrageous replies to customers by Mr. Sood to ever consider overpaying thousands for a system, then be attacked personally and publicly as they have a habit of doing if there are issues with the machine.


Wow, thanks Hammer. See, this is what I'm looking for, info I can't get just by web-window shopping. I didn't realize that Voodoo is a double meaning of sorts. As in, we'll stick pins in you if you complain. That sucks as far as I see it. If you make a $6000 desktop, albeit a beautiful one, you should embrace consumer issues so as not to kill off future sales. Also, just as a good buisness practice.
post #13 of 48
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Hey Hammer, as an interesting side note, I took your advice and decided to go into the Voodoo forums. This is what I was graced with.

Your user has been banned from the Mutthaboards, please contact forum admin if you have any questions.

Hmm.... Wonder why I have been banned before I've ever had the chance to enter a Voodoo forum.
post #14 of 48
They've been watching you.

Check out Falcon Northwest
post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by ImOnAPlain51
They've been watching you. Check out Falcon Northwest
Really?? Do you think they would? I haven't ever said anything negative about Voodoo with the possible exception of the above line where I said "I couldn't care less about Rahul Sood" And I wrote Paul Stood. I really thought that was his name, before I edited it. Well, whatever! If you have to practice North Korean tactics to keep your bubble a "happy place" then, maybe you ought to think about that Mr. Sood! I am quickly talking myself out of wanting your business bro. Make me think otherwise......
post #16 of 48
It's just childish.
post #17 of 48
I find Mr. Sood's recent blog funny. I like the last 2 lines the best. http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/

"I am still unsure what their strategy with Alienware is. No doubt I’m excited to see what happens, I am certainly enjoying the view from where I sit. :-)"

Is he jealous that AW can offer high end PC's at a better price than him? Last I looked AW had less expensive PC's before the whole Dell thing came into the picture.

Anyway back to topic. I have heard some good things from Maingear the last few months. Might be worth checking out if you still are looking.
post #18 of 48
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Originally Posted by Power and Glory
I find Mr. Sood's recent blog funny. I like the last 2 lines the best. http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/ "I am still unsure what their strategy with Alienware is. No doubt I’m excited to see what happens, I am certainly enjoying the view from where I sit. :-)" Is he jealous that AW can offer high end PC's at a better price than him? Last I looked AW had less expensive PC's before the whole Dell thing came into the picture. Anyway back to topic. I have heard some good things from Maingear the last few months. Might be worth checking out if you still are looking.
Maingear, I'll have to check them out! Thanks Power and Glory. Hey, is that a Indy Jones thing?
post #19 of 48
So what exacly makes this desktop worth $13,636?

http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quote...productID=1090

I do hope that case is made outta gold
post #20 of 48
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Umm, it is!
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