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Opera 6.11 on Linux

post #1 of 13
2/24/03 at 4:39am
Thread Starter 
Is it just mine, or does Opera for Linux suck?

It doesn't recognize some simple javascript commands...is this only on my computer?

I'm using mozilla now.
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post #2 of 13
2/24/03 at 5:12am

Re: Opera 6.11 on Linux

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Originally posted by denkc
Is it just mine, or does Opera for Linux suck?

It doesn't recognize some simple javascript commands...is this only on my computer?

I'm using mozilla now.
No, Opera sucks just in general. Hehehe. I use Konqueror most often. Is Mozilla really all that better? Does it have file-system integration like Konqueror?

Cheers.
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post #3 of 13
2/24/03 at 11:12am

Mozilla or Phoenix !!!!

Not only Mozilla is the best Open Source browser, has file integration, but it isn't Konqueror. Konqueror is one of this new ' do everything app', but i just don't trust that concept.

Mozilla can effectively :

- Block all pop ups ) even latest Netscape hasn't got that future. Finally real surfing as 'web sites scripts are not allowed to open new browser window, read cookies or change any aspect of your browser.

-Surf faster that anything.

-Java (BlackDown Linux), javascript

-Tab Surfing, have 25 tabs open with 25 different sites in there, keep history on single tabs, load a page in the background while reading another.

-Use Mouse Gestures

-Middle clik link : middle click on a url as text, not being a link, and mozilla will make it a link

Mozilla project recently released Phoenix, a light weight version of the browser. Version 0.5 is the latest afaik. Both support Anti Aliasing of fonts as well as TrueType fonts. Hotmail.com looks better in mozilla than in IExplorer hehehehehe.
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post #4 of 13
2/24/03 at 9:08pm
give me a site and I'll check it out. I've noticed that Java is disabled by default but I haven't checked out javascript yet.
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post #5 of 13
2/27/03 at 9:50am
I don't know if you've tried Opera 7.01 at all, but it's an enormous improvement over even Opera 6x - I used it exclusively now (yes, over Mozilla). I find it faster and it tends to do a better job rendering. All those features listed for Mozilla above ('cept the "click link" thing?) are at least 1-2 versions old in Opera.

It sucks that they haven't released 7.0 for Linux, yet. Mozilla definitely rules there.

Plus, the skins are cool :-)
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post #6 of 13
2/27/03 at 9:12pm
I've been using Opera since version 5.x and it's much better then IE. I haven't used Mozzilla or any variant so I can't say for that. Unfortunately the Opera folks haven't gotten around to updating the Linux version yet. I beta tested 7.x and the release version for windows is very buggy. But, it still trumps IE. Right now I'm running the Bork! Bork! edition of Opera, check out their site for details. One fof the best things about Opera, by modify the ini files you create custom search engine shortcuts, right click menus, and other various 'neat' stuff. Coupled with Proxomitron on a windows machine it's unstoppable.

lately, my linux version has just closed itself at random intervals. I'm not sure why.

I will suggest that you get ahold of the mscorefonts for Linux it makes every so much better.
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post #7 of 13
2/28/03 at 1:37am
Honestly, I have never seen a better browser(when it comes to loading) than IE(atleast for windows).

Netscape, and Mozilla are bears when it comes to startup time.

Opera is decent, it atleast equals IE for startup time and probably is the best at webpage load time. And its inability to cope with certain aspects of webpages can be annoying.

It also crashed consistently in linux, which is certainly irritating when you aren't use to having such difficulties in a stable enviroment.

Brian.
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post #8 of 13
2/28/03 at 2:10am
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Originally posted by Ottbr
Honestly, I have never seen a better browser(when it comes to loading) than IE(atleast for windows).

Netscape, and Mozilla are bears when it comes to startup time.

Opera is decent, it atleast equals IE for startup time and probably is the best at webpage load time. And its inability to cope with certain aspects of webpages can be annoying.

It also crashed consistently in linux, which is certainly irritating when you aren't use to having such difficulties in a stable enviroment.

Brian.
You asking for trouble? IE starts up so "fast" because most all of it is loaded with windows at startup. If you have Mozilla's quickstart enabled, you'll see very similar response times.

I like Opera, and have registered every version since 3.xx all the way through 7, but I do use mozilla now (I like it's e-mail 'client' better).

IE does an OK job at rendering, but I have noticed it renders slower than either Opera or Mozilla/Phoenix.

-myrkat
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post #9 of 13
2/28/03 at 4:54am
Thread Starter 
...so Opera 6.11 sucks for Linux huh?

www.opera.com

From the name, you'd expect something else when you go there. Oh well. All good.

I like Opera 7 for Windows, but not enough to use it over IE. I don't think that IE really boots at the beginning...it's just part of the OS so it's an easy boot.
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post #10 of 13
2/28/03 at 3:56pm
For me, I use Phoenix exclusively in Windows and Linux. I love the popup blocking, cookie management, and Javascript method blocker. And I absolutely am addicted to tabbed browsing. These are all Mozilla fetures, true, but Phoenix does it all faster.
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post #11 of 13
2/28/03 at 4:33pm
The feature in 7.01 I *love* is the "Paste and Go" that pulls up when you right click into the Address field. I've always hated "cut, paste, use left hand to hit enter."

Little things like that are cool.

Now, if I can remember how to get it stop jumping over to my Transfers page whenever I download something.

Haven't played with Phoenix; now I will.
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post #12 of 13
2/28/03 at 5:09pm
I will probably be switching to Phoenix, and using it instead of Mozilla.

Brian.
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post #13 of 13
2/28/03 at 6:50pm
I use Phoenix, mostly, but on my 8887-X I have been using Mozilla (for the mail and browser).

I wish Mozilla/Phoenix would implement another cool Opera feature: CONTROL-G - the graphics on/off/load toggle. I know Phoenix has that tres cool plug-in called Imagenuke (or NukeImage?) but that's too time-consuming to fix a really bad page (like Gamecopyworld.com).

In opera, a CONTROL-G will turn off all the images, again will turn them off and remove their size properties (thus re-formatting the text) and a third time will turn them back on.

It is the little things like that... and Mozilla should come with Mouse Gestures by default. They don't work too well in Phoenix, but they work great in Mozilla.

-myrkat

PS: I say use em all!
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