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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I've had the HP Pavilion dv5215us for about 9 days now, and I'm getting really annoyed with it.

It has somehow managed to get progressively slower and slower to a point where it's incredible. When I reboot my computer, just for it to go past the Windows XP boot screen it takes 5 minutes every time. With nothing else going on in the background, I can' play an MP3 without the music locking up and not sounding fluid. When I browse the internet with Firefox my mouse is choppy. Originally, it took me about an hour to rip and burn a DVD. Now, it takes an incredible 6 hours.

I'm not a (complete) moron, either. I looked up exactly what I need to use in start-up, and used msconfig to stop the other programs from loading. I defragmented my drives and I've fully upgraded my computer. I scanned for viruses, checked for spyware, etc. Nothing. For some reason this problem persists. I had a Compaq for 2 years that had notably worse specs, and I never had problems with the speed or amount of programs I can load at a time on it, etc.

My CPU usage is constantly extremely high even when running only one typical program (ie Windows Media Player, Firefox, Photoshop, etc). I'm running Windows XP Media Center. I have a 1.79ghz AMD Turion 64 and 1gb of RAM. I'm going to take a stab and say something is messed up with the processor, but I'm really not positive. Also, I've left the computer running most of the time since I've got it. So, if I've had it 10 days, it's probably been off only a total of about 25 hours. My Compaq notebook, however, was always on and never had any such problems.

Could someone help me find some way to troubleshoot this and figure out exactly what the problem is, and possibly even fix it? Thanks.
post #2 of 17
- get rid or norton if u have it
- disable all related ati services
- http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/OptimizeXP.html

cheers ...
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
thanks ... i'll give that a try but I'm guessing it will be of little help. The system has gotten progressively slower and slower without me causing more and more prrograms to run, and it's a brand new computer. Just to do every-day tasks it feels like I'm on a 233mhz computer with 32mb of RAM. It's seriously unbelievable and I think it's a hardware problem...
post #4 of 17
open up ur task manager and see what process is hogging the cpu

cheers ...
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
I did that. It will be hppmon if nothing else is running, and if something else is running (ie Firefox, Microsoft Word, etc), then that will be taking up some 95%.
post #6 of 17
u need that hp pmon? can u try to disable it for test?

cheers ...
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Not really any help.

I'm not sure that it has much to do with what programs are running because it takes at least 5 minutes to boot windows. The screen where it says "Windows XP" and has a blue bar go acrss the screen a few times just takes forever.
post #8 of 17
TightInn,

I know that you're looking for a "fix", disable this or that, but the most time effective thing to do would be to restore the system to as-shipped, before doing so downloading the latest version of your firewall, and anti-virus programs + updates... so you can install (get up) your firewall +anti-virus program BEFORE connecting to the internet after doing a system restore.


You might find some info here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...444#post991444

How to Optimize a Notebook Computer

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

by Jack O’Neill



This article serves as a quick and easy guide to get your laptop computer to boot up and run faster simply by changing some basic Windows settings or installing some helpful applications.



Clear Out Memory Resident Programs That are not Needed



Nearly every program you install thinks that it needs to be running in the background so that it will start faster. Stop them from running in the background, they only use up memory and slow the rest of the system down all the time for a very minimal increase in that particular program loading.* Go to Start >*Run and type “msconfig” and go to the startup tab.







You can get an idea of what these programs are by going to this site:





http://www.windowsstartup.com/wso/search.php


By going to this site and entering the task program name in the search field, you can determine if you really want it running in the background. In msconfig you can just uncheck the task and then on the next boot it won’t run. If you find you need the task, just run msconfig again and recheck the task, it will begin running again on the next boot.



Startup items that you will really want to disable are “qttask” (Quick Time), anything that begins with the 3 letters “ati” (these are ATI video card background tasks that are not needed and just waste memory and bandwidth), anything related to “office” or “fastfind”, or anything related to a program you installed such as a media player or utility. You should keep startup*tasks that are running your touchpad, firewall*or anti-virus software.



Clear Out*Background Services*That are not Needed



Next stop unneeded services that are also running in the background.* Go to Start > Run and type “services.msc”, stretch the window so you can see what’s going on.







To find out what these services do and if you need them or not, visit this website:





http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html


It will show which services you can disable based on your OS and whether you are on a corporate network or just a home PC.



If there is ever a task or service running and you don’t understand what it does, then do a search on www.google.com for it and figure out if it really is needed, you will be surprised at how much faster your system will be by just cleaning this stuff up.



While you are at Snakefoot’s site take a look at the tips/tweaks page as well, it has some good registry tips to speed things up.



Tweak XP Registry for Speed Using TuneXP



A more simple way for anyone to apply most of these registry tweaks that really help increase your speed without running regedit is to download *DriverHeaven’s “tuneXP” , then enable these tweaks and any others you like.







There are lots of tweaks that can be applied to the registry to speed things up and at the end of the article I’ll post links to my favorite sites to find these, but by just using TuneXP you get easy access to the big hitters that gain you the most.



Disable System Restore



Right click on "My Computer" and select properties.* Next, go to the system restore tab and disable system restore, I would estimate*this “feature” alone can slowdown your computer by 15-20%. This is because the OS has to backup everything that happens to the registry at all times on the fly, and there are easily dozens if not hundreds of modifications happening to the registry every second. This just bogs the whole PC down and eats hard drive space like you would not believe.



System restore is not needed if you do backups of your drive once in awhile and you should be backing up if you don’t want to lose everything. System restore is fine if you don’t mind giving up all that horsepower and drive space just to backup the registry every time it changes.







While you are over at the system properties page, go over to the “windows updates” page and turn off automatic updates. It’s a waste of CPU power for this to be running in the background all the time when Microsoft only posts their updates once a month. Just be sure to keep an eye on the windows update page and download the critical updates as they’re posted.



Next go over to the “Advanced” tab and click on the performance settings button and look over the visual effects panel. You can just set them with the radio buttons for a fast easy change or go custom to suit yourself. These visual effect can slow things down a bit, in fact some of them like the “slide or fade” options make your PC seem slower by making these functions slowdown for a visual eye-candy kind of thing. The ones I like to keep enabled are.





Smooth edges of screen fonts

Show windows contents when dragging

Show shadows under menus/mouse pointers

Use drop shadows for icons on the desktop


Then go from the visual effects tab over to the advanced tab and select virtual memory. Then change it from system managed size to custom. Most sites say to set your page size to 2x your installed memory size, you can do this but I don’t. I don’t think if you have 1GB of memory installed, that you need 2GB of pagefile. With my system I have 1GB of memory and 256-512MB of pagefile. I made the top range 512MB just in case, but even with large photoshop files with many layers, I’ve never gone above the 256MB of pagefile.



A word of warning, if you have upgraded to Windows Service Pack 2 (SP2) many of these settings were reset to factory defaults, so check them even if you’ve set them in the past.



Disable Disk Indexing



Open windows explorer and right-click on icon for each hard drive and select properties, then uncheck “allow indexing service to index this disk for fast file searching”



Sure it speeds up file searches somewhat, but how often do you do these searchs? The trade off is that it slows everything down all the time so that* when you do do a search once in awhile it does it a little faster…what a ripoff!* Turn it off and get the speed increase instead.







Defrag That Hard Drive



The best defragger is Diskeeper pro, the current version is 8.0. This software runs about $30 for the Home Edition and $50 for the Professional edition.* The program simply*does a wonderful job of keeping things organized. It even defrags the MFT files (Master File Table files) which the Microsoft Defrag does not do and these files can get very, very large! Defrag after your done installing everything and then once a week or two afterwards depending on how much software you’ve added or removed.



Clean up the Registry



Download a registry cleaning utility, there are many freeware/shareware ones out there. I like “RegscrubXP” it does a really nice job of cleaning the registry and will make backups just in case something gets deleted that shouldn’t have. The program is straight forward and easy to use. I usually get the latest version from the majorgeeks website, here’s the link.





*http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=2048


Optimize the Boot Sequence



Microsoft has a program called “Bootvis”, Microsoft has a disclaimer that it is not meant to speed up the boot process, but it does and by a fair amount I would say* Here's a link to download the*Bootvis program:





http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664






When using Bootvis you can do a trace > next boot, and then on the next boot it will make a graphical representation of all the process and drivers that are loaded and how long each one takes. From this you can see how long it took to boot into windows. Then run it again, this time do a trace > optimize system; it will then rearrange the location of boot files on the hard drive and the order in which they are loaded to speed up the entire boot process.



Conclusion



Your mileage may vary, but on my ThinkPad T42 my boot time went from 45 seconds before the optimizations to 29 seconds afterwards, that’s more than a 35% decrease in boot time, well worth the effort!



Resource Links



Here is a set of resource links used in this article and for further research you might like to do.* Check back to NotebookReview.com for updates to this article and other types of resource articles in the future.





Annoyances.org

Black Viper's Web Site

How can I uninstall the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine (JVM) from Windows XP

LabMice.net The Windows 20002003XP Resource Center for IT Professionals

Snakefoot's WinNT, Win2k, WinXP Services

Startup Programs

Startups - Contents

Startups - Full list

Sysinternals Freeware

Task List Programs

Troubleshooting Windows XP, Tweaks and Fixes for Windows XP

TweakXP.com - Hundreds of Tweaks, Tips, Visual Styles, and Software for Microsoft Windows XP

Wayne's Windows XP Resources for Administrators and Users

Windows NT and Windows 2000 FAQ (formerly NTFAQ.com)

Windows Startup Online®

Windows XP
post #9 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by TightInn
Not really any help.

I'm not sure that it has much to do with what programs are running because it takes at least 5 minutes to boot windows. The screen where it says "Windows XP" and has a blue bar go acrss the screen a few times just takes forever.

Idea's:

Run a hard drive diagnostic from the BIOS...

Restore the OS from a backup.

Reseat the RAM...

Download some memory ,cpu testing programs... see if they give any errors.
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreNotAlone
Idea's:

Run a hard drive diagnostic from the BIOS...

Restore the OS from a backup.

Reseat the RAM...

Download some memory ,cpu testing programs... see if they give any errors.
Other than restoring the OS, how do I do these things?
post #11 of 17
Run a hard drive diagnostic from the BIOS... =reboot, or start machine from cold boot, when HP screen comes up press F10, access bios, navigate to the hard drive section, run a complete test on the hard drive.

Reseat the RAM... = remove chips, re-install.... maybe leaving (1) in, swapping back and forth with the other chip /slot (which btw will make your machine slow) to see if the ram is bad.

Download some memory ,cpu testing programs... see if they give any errors. = Just that for various testing programs.

There may be links on the sites at the bottom of this post:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...444#post991444
post #12 of 17
Besides running the hard drive test, and maybe swapping the ram around the MOST time effective solution to SEE if it is HARDWARE related is to do a system restore.... In case the system has to go back.

Remember to DOWNLOAD, burn to CD/DVD your firewall/anti-virus + updates ... so you can get those up BEFORE you connect to the "net".
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
Well, I had kind of done a system restore a couple of times.

When I first got my computer, I ended up downloading a bunch of stuff and I backed it up on an external hard drive. My computer was running (incredibly) slow and I was worried it might be from something I downloaded having a virus, so I virus scanned, ad-awared, etc everything on the external hard drive and then did a complete reinstall of everything. I reformatted the hard drive, erasing everything, and then reinstalled it all. The programs included photoshop, nero, office, firefox, ad-aware, limewire, trillian and dvd shrink 3.2, all up to date and clean and with no viruses.

So, after a couple more days of just burning dvds (and deleting anything saved on the computer), listening to music and browsing the internet, it started moving incredibly slow again. This time I went back to a restore point. My computer sped back up for about a day and then went back. It's not from me downloading anything. It seems like it just gets progressively worse for absolutely no reason.
post #14 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by TightInn
Well, I had kind of done a system restore a couple of times.

When I first got my computer, I ended up downloading a bunch of stuff and I backed it up on an external hard drive. My computer was running (incredibly) slow and I was worried it might be from something I downloaded having a virus, so I virus scanned, ad-awared, etc everything on the external hard drive and then did a complete reinstall of everything. I reformatted the hard drive, erasing everything, and then reinstalled it all. The programs included photoshop, nero, office, firefox, ad-aware, limewire, trillian and dvd shrink 3.2, all up to date and clean and with no viruses.

So, after a couple more days of just burning dvds (and deleting anything saved on the computer), listening to music and browsing the internet, it started moving incredibly slow again. This time I went back to a restore point. My computer sped back up for about a day and then went back. It's not from me downloading anything. It seems like it just gets progressively worse for absolutely no reason.


I know this is an old post, but I just found it, and am curious as to what became of the problem?
I'm interested to know if uninstalling the video drivers would have had any effect.
post #15 of 17
mine was like that too...i just got rid of the clutter
post #16 of 17
sounds similar to my dv5000 problems. received July 06, started loading office, other programs. started booting very slow 6-10 minutes. much searching on similar forums showed others with similar problem. recommended solution was "destructive restore" resident on the hp system. that fixed it--apparently something was corrupted from the factory install. then the next problem. by october it had slowed again and then would not boot to windows--it would get through bios hit the windows splash screen and reboot to bios. i went into bios and checked the hard drive--it was inoperable. I replaced the HD, booted from the os cd and all was well. another user reports he sent his machine back to HP and they replaced the HD and DVD drives--apparently a known issue between the two drives--guess I'll order a new dvd drive as mine has considerable vibration and noise. why don't I just send it back to hp? living overseas and it would be more trouble than playing shade tree computer mechanic. ;-)
post #17 of 17
Much good advice above. if u r still having this problem first trying "destructive restore" and hope that solves your problem. if not, or only temporarily (as in my case), then try getting another copy of the OS. my thought being the hp installed version of os might have issues. my hard drive also failed (i've since read there might be an issue with the hd and dvd drives that came installed as hp replaced both in acquaintance's machine. since i've replaced hd and installed a store bought version of xp pro all is well. not sure I'll ever buy an hp again after this. hoping i can get a couple years use out of it . . .
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