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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ok here is what I have and what I want to do (I need some tech support as to HOW exactly to make this work).

I have a wireless router b/g running in b mode, wife has laptop running xp home (its a work laptop), I have main pc hardwired into router running xp pro, and I have a junker laptop with xp pro and a pcmcia card in it.

In the past, I have had no need or desire to share files between these computers...

BUT I just ordered an alienware 3450 and it will be here in the next week or so, so now suddenly I have the desire to share files between my main pc and the new alienware when I get it (mp3s & photos mainly and would like the ability to print from laptop to main pcs printer).

The new alienware will have xp home, my main pc has xp pro, wifes laptop is xp pro but thats for work only so no sharing of anykind needed with hers, and my junker here will go to my daughter to goof around on...

So I want to share printer and file access between my new alienware and the main desk pc (xp home & xp pro), is this possible and if so what are the steps for a novice like me to make this work?

I do have the router setup with wep protection, a custom password and ssid, and its in b mode cuz g mode was flaky when I tried it but might try g mode again once alienware comes cuz g mode will be desired for pc to laptop and vice versa file sharing (g will be faster than b for that right?).

Anyways thats what I was hoping to get some answers on, can I do this with these two computers (files and printer sharing for 2 of the pcs only not wifes and other junker laptop) and if so how, and will the different versions of xp pose any problems?


Bill
post #2 of 14
Bill-

I have various laptops/desktops on my home network running home and pro, so our situations seem similar. What I did was create my own workgroup.
Control Panel > System > Computer Name tab > Change (To rename this computer or jioine a domain). Select Workgroup since you don't have a server, and type in an easy name. Don't leave it as workgroup, but actually type something. I used my last name, but whatever. Make sure the computer name is such that you can identify it and hit OK, apply and whatever else to get it to apply the workgroup selection. Restart may be required; I don't remember off the top of my head. Anyways, repeat the process on any XP computer (home or pro) and make sure you join the same workgroup. If all the computers are connected to the network, you should be good to go. I run ZoneAlarm on everything networked and you need to set it to share-mode, but this process will differ per anti-virus/ firewall program: just look around at all the options.

To check you have the computers connected, the "Shared Documents" folder on each will automatically be shared across the network. From the desktop, go to "My Network Places" and give it a while to update info from the network. B mode will be slower (11 Mbps) while G takes a few seconds itself at 54Mbps. Keep in mind running a B-type card on a G network cripples the entire network to B speeds (stupid, but that's how backwards compatibility works in this case). Anyways, if you see "Shared Docuements on MynetworkedPC1" then you're A-OK.

To share a printer on the computer it's physically attached to: Control Panel > Printers and Faxes. Right click > properties on whatever printer you want to share, then under the sharing tab select "Share this printer" and type whatever you want it to be called. Apply, OK, and whatever else windows need to implement your choices.

To share the printer to a networked PC: Control Panel > Printers and Faxes > Add a printer. Follow the steps to find the printer on your local network. Your other computer has to be on, and connected to the network for this to work.

To share files/folders/drives: This is pretty easy. Right click on the folder/file/driver and go to sharing, then share it with whatever name you want. Keep in mind "My network places" will automatically list the computer it's shared on: "Files4NewAlienware on Alienwarewannabecomputer" (thus you don't have to put the name of the computer in the share name).
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks alot for the reply and input, once it arrives I will try it for sure,

a few last questions...

first off here is my router if needed - netgear WGR614 v3 b/g with wep

If I switch to G mode (cuz between 2 pcs sharing this will help in those speeds right?) my junker laptop has a b only pcmcia card, if I operate in G mode on my router will the b only card totally not work or will the router allow it but knock that particular laptop only down to b or does it not work that way (in other words if i go upto g ill have to get a g card for it.)

I was gonna give this junker to my daughter to goof with online etc, but I was pretty sure i would want to go upto g mode if i share files between 2 pcs (is that correct that I should move upto using the g mode?)

Second, does having a workgroup setup between my main pc and my new laptop open me up to more security risk at all? I do have my setup changed as recommened by netgear changed ssid, changed password, using wep protection etc etc, so its not standard open where anyone outside can just "sign in" yet I realize its not fort knox either, if someone does get in will they too have access to all files of the workgroup and or all files on any of my pcs (how does that work) the main reason is because my wifes laptop is her work laptop (many client files and info) having her online with it is great but I do worry about her security on this wireless setup altho she wouldnt be connected to the workgroup i setup between main pc and new laptop, if someone can get in and connect to my wireless thru hacking, does having the workgroup setup open me to more invasion or does it just allow them to use internet thru their pc or laptop if they have figured out how to get in, and or does that open up wifes laptop to lookyloos into her work files?

Guess I am just a bit slow on all that, I know there are newer more secure routers out there that use newer stronger protection wpa etc past the wep only that mine does, should I look at upgrading the router or is there any type of program out there that can tell me if anyone IS trying to use my wireless or attempting to use it?

Sorry for so many questions on all this, might just be overly curious, but I do know for a fact I have a group of very active kids nearby here that are bigtime into computers and probably not only the legal stuff, and since my wife works for the property we live at, and her work laptop has all the files of all the residents here at the same property, I hate to see them use my wireless to get in and get access somehow to everyone who lives here (info accts phone, emergency contacts, lease info resident complaints etc etc) or oneday to find out they used my connection to hack into some gov or edu site or somethin...

Bill
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
I did go to netgear.com and updated my WGR614 v3 router to the newest firmware which now supports WPA-PSK security (which should be stronger than just wep right?)


And in the Properties section of the routersetup I see I can choose B AND G (at same time) so that should allow the junker laptop with the B only card to still operate at same time as G mode for main pc and alienware laptop.

So thats 2 things off the list (very cool)...

Still curious on all the security questions asked above tho and I sure hope once the laptop arrives I can get all this setup and workin smoothly...

Bill
post #5 of 14
Well, I see your point at wireless being hacked a lot. I've seen an online demonstration of a security company armed with an unidentified boot disk hacking into a WEP encypted network (apparently it broadcasts the network key) within 90 seconds. After they're on your network, they can go to my network places, and it will list the workgroup you created, then they can change their computer to that workgroup and have access to any files you have shared, but won't have access to the ones you don't have shared. XP does have some security. If I were you, uncheck the box that says "allow network users to change my files" b/c then at most they can just see your files and copy them.

If your wife's computer doesn't have any shared files on the network I'd say you'd be okay there. They can't get into her computer unless you have login information stored somewhere in a shared document (you'd be amazed what some people will do- I had a friend who saved all his passwords and shared the text document across the network and then wondered why his computer wouldn't log him on- ended up he was hijacked.)

I *think* with dual B/G mode operating your G cards will connect on one frequency of the wireless networking spectrum and B on another, allowing dual operation, but I'm not 100% on that. Either way, it may still bump the G card speeds down when B cards are operating on the network. I'm not really sure about the specifics here (i operate all G) but the dual mode sounds like a quick fix to get around that. Good luck and keep posting questions/problems here.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
I will just make sure the shared folders contain pics and songs and nothing that would be personal (docs emails etc). and will turn off the ability to change the files so worst they can see or copy the files yet not delete or something harmful.

Mostly its webpage images family photos music videos and mp3's that i want accessable between the main pc and alienware, so I think im ok on that stuff...

I did already enable (changed router settings etc) over to the WPA stuff, not sure how much more secure it is but totally changed passphrase (longer too) and its now active and I enabled b and g mode, so far each pc is FINE working connecting so thats cool!

My laptop is doing one weird thing tho (junker laptop with B card only) I start it up it finds and connects, but if it sits and goes into standby once I wake laptop it says aquiring network and times out trying to find or reconnect to wireless, I tried hitting repair, confirming all the settings are current and right (and it does connect on bootup), yet once in standby it wont reconnect when woke up, I HAVE to restart the pc for it to reconnect.

In advanced settings of the wireless connection i see my SSID and it says automatic and all properties are setup for the wpa now and it works, and I also see stayonline and it too says automatic, im guessing this is for when i comeback from periods of inactivity on the laptop? Anyways I went into its properties and confirmed its also setup for wpa and passphrase entered etc, yet it still wont refind and connect without me actually restarting the entire laptop.

Could be cuz its old and has a cheap 15$ cheifmax card in it...I dunno but its sorta annoying to have to restart if I walk away from laptop for 30 mins...

I am not even sure what "mode" it goes into, screen pops off fans turn off and if i wiggle touchpad it all pops back up, guessing thats sleep mode?

Hibernate is NOT checked, and I have hard discs and system standby all checked as NEVER turn off when unit is on in power management screens, the only thing turned on is turn off monitor after 10 mins on battery power and 15 mins on cord power, yet once I wiggle touchpad everything pops back up yet im suddenly not connected anymore, if I use it no 20-30 min breaks in use it works SOLID no breakups or flakeouts, only when i leave it and come back does it somehow lose its connection and wont reconnect till i restart.
post #7 of 14
Good thread, sorry I dont have much other input that can further what BFisch06 said already
post #8 of 14
That laptop may be powering down the PCMCIA card when it goes to sleep and when it wakes up the card gets confused and won't work. Try popping out the PCMCIA card and putting it back in... I think its just a power error.
post #9 of 14

netgear security tip

another security tip with the netgear routers is to limit access to only select pc's by allowing only set MAC addresses (to find your mac address go to command prompt (run > cmd) type "ipconfig /all" and note down the Physical address looks something like 00-6a-5f-3b-62-ef) go into your router set up and go to Advanced > wireless settings > wireless card access list



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post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Trooper
another security tip with the netgear routers is to limit access to only select pc's by allowing only set MAC addresses (to find your mac address go to command prompt (run > cmd) type "ipconfig /all" and note down the Physical address looks something like 00-6a-5f-3b-62-ef) go into your router set up and go to Advanced > wireless settings > wireless card access list
I just thought to add the whole MAC address filtering to my previous post... looks like The Trooper had my back on this one.
post #11 of 14
nae problem BFisch it is a great way to secure the network I had to use it as my old flatmates machine didnt support wep properly so it made it secureish with the need for wep passwords. one of our mates had tried to break into the network from his car outside the house and was unable to get in
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
The MAC address wont change like the IP address does will it?

I did see that within the router menus so i might do that (it would help limit who or what can access the wifi or workgroups) one more step security wise right?
post #13 of 14
nope your mac address wont change like the ip though if you were to change the wireless adapter it would
post #14 of 14
The MAC address is built into the wifi card or ethernet card, so be careful you don't add one and try to use the other. You can get MAC address spoofing programs though...
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