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Vista RC1 on E1705 with Readyboost

post #1 of 16
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Everything appear to work, I have to down load Nivdia driver from laptop2govideo.com since I don't trust MS driver, I had two small problems, one of them is the Dell quick set, when ever I hit the button for volume up/down, volume bar display not moving at all, but the sound does go up and down as I press. A second problems I had is could be relate the the application, I had a Ventrilo, whenever I setting sound for microphone/speaker, it keep telling me "unable to open the system sound control panel", so I end up adjust the sound else where. As for 5 to 1 card read reader, I used XP driver from Dell, and it work, I went out and got me a 2GB SD Sandisk, plug it in and the system ask me if I want to use it as Readyboost drive.

System seem to be pretty snapy. So far I been play WoW on it and the computer seem to run bit cooler on the graphic, not sure if this is due to the system took extra 256MB RAM and turn it into Video RAM. Windows Media on Vista seem to be some what better then the old XP media, since I only play with it for few day so I couldn't give you more detail then this.

for those of you want to know what is Readyboost is look at the link below

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...rformance.mspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx
post #2 of 16
That's an interesting feature. Opens up a few possibilities in the future.
post #3 of 16
xccess21, can you tell me what kind of SanDisk card you have? I have just a normal 2GB Sandisk SD card, and Vista just tells me it doesn't have the performance required.

I'd like to get the readyboost going, but it's a complete pain to figure out what will work and what won't.
post #4 of 16
ok, got it worked out. It seems the built in card reader in the 9400 isn't fast enough (nor is the one in my 2405FPW) . My 2GB Sandisk SD card works with readyboost in an external reader.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by Garbuckle
ok, got it worked out. It seems the built in card reader in the 9400 isn't fast enough (nor is the one in my 2405FPW) . My 2GB Sandisk SD card works with readyboost in an external reader.

my is just normal one too, you know the one you pick up from best buy for 1/2 price
post #6 of 16
Hmm, that is an interesting feature. I may have to give that a try then. I have Vista RC1 running on my Dell M1210 and have 1 gig of RAM and it runs a little slow with Aero enabled.

I wonder how this would work!



http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/18/t...ins-the-party/
Since it's a flash drive, it just may work. IMO Think about 32GBs or more of RAM! lol

And here's another link about doing this:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/28/s...ssd-under-200/
post #7 of 16
Got it working on my desktop! I only had a 512 flash drive with me, but it's up and working. Seems to be much faster.
post #8 of 16
I tried the same 512 flash drive on my notebook which is also running Vista RC1 and I noticed a big boost in performance. My notebook only has 1 gig of RAM. I need to go buy a 4 GB drive! lol

I also tried using a 1GB SD card since my notebook has a built in card reader but windows said that the SD card didn't meet performance requirements.
post #9 of 16
Hmm, I am really interested in this as well.
Been contemplating buying a 4gb Sd card and throwing that in... but am worried I will get the 'does not meet performance requirements' message. (oh and this would be on my E1705 with the built in reader)

Does anyone have any recomendations with which cards work with this laptop?

TIA!

D.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by debaucher
Hmm, I am really interested in this as well. Been contemplating buying a 4gb Sd card and throwing that in... but am worried I will get the 'does not meet performance requirements' message. (oh and this would be on my E1705 with the built in reader) Does anyone have any recomendations with which cards work with this laptop? TIA! D.
Well, I tried my 1GB SD card in mine. I also have the built in reader as well. I would rather use it and an SD card since it's smaller and wouldn't be sticking out of the side of my notebook. lol But the 1GB card I tried didn't work. I seen a 2GB Sandisk drive today at Best Buy for only $45 after rebates, the 4GB one was $200. lol But I just wonder if they make a better SD card than the one I have and tried to use. I've seen "Ultra" SD cards and such you know. Wonder if they're any better or would meet the performance needed for ReadyBoost.
post #11 of 16
While waiting on my new E1705 to show up next week with Vista Ultimate, I've been looking into Vista's ReadyBoost feature that uses thumb drives or flash memory cards as disk cache acceleration devices. I at first dismissed the idea but based on several users' positive results for decreasing certain tasks' load times, I'm going to give it a try as discussed below. The basic idea is to use a flash card or thumb drive to accelerate system response as a "booster" cache area for the window's page file. Even 2 Gb Ram systems typically still use the page file to some degree, so accelerating it should provide noticeable benefits on certain types of applications.

I saw a YouTube video that demonstrated a reduction of login time to the desktop from the login screen (I'm assuming it was a "re-login" or switching users) with a normal time of 44 seconds reduced to just 14 seconds with a ReadyBoost device enabled. Other articles have described noticeably snappier index searches and general responsiveness increases, so I'm going to delve right into it for my machine.

My goal is to use the laptop's internal 5-in-1 flash card reader to tuck the media out of sight, so the focus of this post excludes USB thumb drives. To start with, here's a really great site for tracking down access and transfer speed differences among a lot of flash cards in various formats and in various readers:

http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/

The focus of the above site is for digital camera usage, so it's worth a look-see for that reason as well.

Here's a RB (ReadyBoost) compatibility listing site for over 400 flash cards and thumb drives:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/

Based on these sites, I've selected the ReadyBoost compatible 2 Gb SanDisk SD Extreme III card as a $50 low cost addition to my Dell order in hopes that the E1705's internal 5-in-1 card reader performs decently with this hi-speed card. My experience with gaming applications is that optimizing your page file to the start of your disk drive's platter or better yet to a separate drive helps a great deal. So I'm hoping this feature can approach that type benefit for a system with just a single hard drive.

If it doesn't perform in the range of 19 Mb/s read and 18 Mb/s write speed with access latency of about 1 ms per testing when I receive the laptop, I'll look into the 3 or 4 card readers listed at the 1st site above that do acheive those speeds. I'd much rather not have to since it'll be buklier than a thumb drive, but I'd just velcro an external reader to the lid of my machine if the internal reader is too slow. Thumb drives don't typically achieve the faster access times of flash cards, and for this application fast access is very important as described further below.

The 2Gb SanDisk SD Extreme 3 card is among the top 3 flash memory cards tested per the sites above and can currently be bought at Dell's accessories store for $71 with a $20 MIR for end price of $51 here:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...x?sku=A0918866

You might find it cheaper elsewhere, but I'm financing my Dell order and it was best for me to just buy it from Dell since it's a very reasonable price after the rebate and it has free shipping too. If this doesn't work as expected, then I'll just use the SD card for my digital camera even though I plan to keep its full 2 Gb size dedicated for ReadyBoost.

The SanDisk's 1 ms access performance level is roughly ten times faster for small file access times compared to hard drives that usually have latencies of 8 to 10 ms, so this should be an ideal route to go with for the RB cache feature. In addition, a lot of laptop drives actually fall to the 20 Mb/s speed level at the slowest portions of their platters such that the fastest flash cards can now transfer data sequentially at nearly hard drive speeds.

The flash card approach might therefore boost performance similarly to having a 2nd hard drive dedicated to a paging file like I do with all the gaming desktops I've built. The dedicated page file disk significantly reduces game stutters even for fast vid card Core 2 Duo machines with 2 Gb Ram, and since any stutters usually get you "killed" in fast-twitch first person shooter games it's a big help.

It would sure be convenient if the E1705's internal reader works decently since we can just pop in the card and leave it without gettting in the way like a thumb drive or external reader. I've bent a couple thumb drives when I got up from sitting in a chair with the machine on my lap and forgot they were sticking out of either the side or back USB ports. And I also broke one of the USB ports while bending the thumb drive, so for clutzes like me the internal flash card seems the best route to take for a ReadyBoost device.

Has anyone tried any SD cards of this caliber yet to find out the E1705 or M1710 internal reader's performance? Slower thumb drives or flash cards that barely pass the minimum speed threshold of 2.5 Mb/s are 10 times slower than a disk drive. These will very probably not perform well enough to make them worthwhile in my opinion. And in fact this looks to me to be the reason that a lot of users have not seen noticeable improvements. However, using one of the latest hi-speed cards according to their specs should make ReadyBoost quite worthwhile indeed.

I'll make sure to follow up next week after I can test mine, and will also do performance timing comparisons of before/after adding the card.
post #12 of 16
Great write up man. I'd love to see if that card will work. @ more gigs of RAM will help out my notebook.
post #13 of 16
The built in card reader IS fast enough to use ReadyBoost.

And WTF are people doing running Vista RC1???? Its OLD!!!

Its buggy as hell, outdated and you really should NOT be using it....
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by the_scotsman
The built in card reader IS fast enough to use ReadyBoost.

And WTF are people doing running Vista RC1???? Its OLD!!!

Its buggy as hell, outdated and you really should NOT be using it....

Did you look at the date of the original post by any chance.
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by znk0r
Did you look at the date of the original post by any chance.

True. I also haven't been on the site in a long time either and haven't updated my sig yet.
post #16 of 16

I have a E1705 dell with internal sd reader, mine only reads sd cards not sdhc.

 

So i bought a 2g SD card from panasonic Silver I had run a speed test and it writes 3,6mb/s and reads 14mb/s on my internal card reader. the one that I bought is rp-sdp02g and look like this:

 

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