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post #261 of 447
11/14/06 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by betonfoot
Is there a way to update the BIOS for MacBook Pro computers (running Windows XP with Bootcamp) which have the same grainy issue with X1600?

Thanks.

Has anyone request BIOS update from Apple? I think it's the only way to get it fix.
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post #262 of 447
11/14/06 at 8:26am
Hi, Ken! I sent couple of messages asking for a BIOS update to Apple.com:s forums. But I think we should contact someone directly in Apple. I just don't know who. Also, I'm not sure how keen Apple is helping Windows XP users. The worst case scenario is that, they would just release a bios update for MAC OS X.. but then again, I guess the same bios update would fix the windows side as well, because its the graphics cards bios.

There's lot's of angry MacBook Pro users there, so I think many of us would be very happy when this issue is fixed.
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post #263 of 447
11/14/06 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
Has anyone request BIOS update from Apple? I think it's the only way to get it fix.
And why not to ask it to ATI ? Actually, the faulting part in the chain is not McBook, nor Asus, but the ATI-X1600 card, isn't it ? And what is changed in BIOS is the VGA part of it.
And ask ATI to send the new VGA Bios to all laptop manufacturers.

Ken, what do you think about it ?
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post #264 of 447
11/14/06 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by Laurent Grenet
And why not to ask it to ATI ? Actually, the faulting part in the chain is not McBook, nor Asus, but the ATI-X1600 card, isn't it ? And what is changed in BIOS is the VGA part of it.
And ask ATI to send the new VGA Bios to all laptop manufacturers.

Ken, what do you think about it ?

ATI will only response to manufacturer regarding to the graininess issue, I think some people already tried contact ATI before but didn't get any response. VGA BIOS is part of the NB BIOS and it can only be flash with the NB BIOS, so I think the best way to solve it is to contact Apple direct.
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post #265 of 447
11/14/06 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by betonfoot
Hi, Ken! I sent couple of messages asking for a BIOS update to Apple.com:s forums. But I think we should contact someone directly in Apple. I just don't know who. Also, I'm not sure how keen Apple is helping Windows XP users. The worst case scenario is that, they would just release a bios update for MAC OS X.. but then again, I guess the same bios update would fix the windows side as well, because its the graphics cards bios.

There's lot's of angry MacBook Pro users there, so I think many of us would be very happy when this issue is fixed.

How about pick up the phone and call their tech support? does Apple even aware of the graininess issues?
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post #266 of 447
11/14/06 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by betonfoot
Hi, Ken! I sent couple of messages asking for a BIOS update to Apple.com:s forums. But I think we should contact someone directly in Apple. I just don't know who. Also, I'm not sure how keen Apple is helping Windows XP users. The worst case scenario is that, they would just release a bios update for MAC OS X.. but then again, I guess the same bios update would fix the windows side as well, because its the graphics cards bios.

There's lot's of angry MacBook Pro users there, so I think many of us would be very happy when this issue is fixed.
I was told that Apple hardware didn't use a BIOS..??
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post #267 of 447
11/16/06 at 5:29am
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Originally Posted by robohgedhang
I don't think there is... Next time you buy a notebook, consider an ASUS...

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post #268 of 447
11/16/06 at 7:31am
He he he... someone in NBR called me the biggest liar in NBR because I quoted betonfoot's post about 'angry MBP users' there...
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post #269 of 447
11/16/06 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by robohgedhang
He he he... someone in NBR called me the biggest liar in NBR because I quoted betonfoot's post about 'angry MBP users' there...

What happened? I don't go NBR much, how about show us the link?
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post #270 of 447
11/16/06 at 8:14am
Here http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...t=86617&page=3 and here http://forum.notebookreview.com/show...t=86371&page=3 , about the last posts.

Anyway, I heard that ATI has not yet included support for X1700 (such as in F3Jp and A8Jp) even in their latest driver (Cat 6.11). Why is this? Is it because the X1700 is still new or something?
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post #271 of 447
11/16/06 at 4:12pm
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I am not sure why, has anyone try to install it?
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post #272 of 447
11/16/06 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by robohgedhang
He he he... someone in NBR called me the biggest liar in NBR because I quoted betonfoot's post about 'angry MBP users' there...
Yeah, I backed u up in NBR. Quite funny tho! I took some photos of my MacBook Pro screen with my digitalcamera with macro lens. The photos have been taken very near the screen, so you can clearly see the grainy pixel patterns. The first photo is supposed to be a solid black on a website background. The second one is taken from gradient fill (gray to black) in Photoshop. The third one is a picture of a car tire. And yes the same kind of grain was created by ATI Mobility X1600 graphics card (same as apple is using) on ASUS computers, and they fixed it with a bios update. So I think there could be a way to update the bios for Mac as well. Here are the pictures: http://www.laspalmas.nu/macbookpro_grain.jpg
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post #273 of 447
11/18/06 at 6:04pm
f3ja installed bios 206, grainess is gone.

Now if they only fixed the earphone audio output poor quality and the fan always on while in AC mode maybe I don't have to return it (will return it next week).
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post #274 of 447
11/19/06 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by cifroes
f3ja installed bios 206, grainess is gone.

Now if they only fixed the earphone audio output poor quality and the fan always on while in AC mode maybe I don't have to return it (will return it next week).

Are you talking about updating a MacBook Pro with bios 206? If yes, where can I download it?
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post #275 of 447
11/19/06 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Djembe
I was told that Apple hardware didn't use a BIOS..??
They don't. They use EFI(well the newer Intel based ones at least):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensi...ware_Interface

However I believe the BIOS updates from ASUS also update the VGA BIOS on the graphics cards, not just the motherboard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_BIOS
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post #276 of 447
11/19/06 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by betonfoot
Are you talking about updating a MacBook Pro with bios 206? If yes, where can I download it?
betonfoot, cifroes was talking about upgrading his/her F3Ja with BIOS version 206. It's not an MBP... Isn't there any news about the graininess issue fix in Apple's forum?
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post #277 of 447
11/19/06 at 5:42pm
A new BIOS is available on ASUS site for F3Ja. Its Id is 206... but with this new BIOS, graininess is back
So I flashed back to the 206T01 provided by Gentech, and all is OK now.

Why ASUS is providing a new BIOS not taking into account bug fixing of previous beta Bios ????
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post #278 of 447
11/29/06 at 10:11am
And again an new BIOS (207) which doesn't solve graininess.
The issue is that all these BIOS still include VGA Bios 009.012.001.014.A05308.005 instead of 009.012.001.014.A05308.T16 (as in 206T01 Beta)

Please, Mr Asus, if you read me, please integrate the right VGA Bios in the latest Bios !
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post #279 of 447
11/29/06 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Laurent Grenet
And again an new BIOS (207) which doesn't solve graininess.
The issue is that all these BIOS still include VGA Bios 009.012.001.014.A05308.005 instead of 009.012.001.014.A05308.T16 (as in 206T01 Beta)

Please, Mr Asus, if you read me, please integrate the right VGA Bios in the latest Bios !

They hear you, I just tell Asus about this.
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post #280 of 447
11/29/06 at 5:56pm
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
They hear you, I just tell Asus about this.
And did you get a planning for release ?
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