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post #381 of 447
2/25/07 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by westermanb
Can someone please explain how I flash my FJ3P with the 205 bios. After I un-rared it the file is FJ3P.205, isn't a bios file meant to be a .rom? What am I missing here? Also my adapter is the x1700 will this bios work for this as well as the x1600? thanks BW
Hello, I think you did not read through this thread, because the answers to your questions are already there. The procedure to flash F3jp with bios v205 is already explaned in post 358 on page 24 of this thread. The F3jp only comes with x1700 cards so the bios for F3jp is meant for you notebook also.
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post #382 of 447
2/26/07 at 12:57am
I did got back and read up, its just your instructions confused me cause I was looking for a .rom file.. Your meathod worked great.
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post #383 of 447
2/26/07 at 5:37pm
Ken is there any chance bios 1201 makes the Webcam on Z96J not to function at all? I installed all drivers webcam is detected as sertek. Can you please tell me under device manager which device you got as

PCI Bus 6 Device 1 Function 1

I got a PCI Device detected but doesn't install. I also plugged an SD card and it's not detected. and Webcam does not show at all seems to initialize but I get no image.

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post #384 of 447
2/26/07 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by Da_AuD|o
Ken is there any chance bios 1201 makes the Webcam on Z96J not to function at all? I installed all drivers webcam is detected as sertek. Can you please tell me under device manager which device you got as

PCI Bus 6 Device 1 Function 1

I got a PCI Device detected but doesn't install. I also plugged an SD card and it's not detected. and Webcam does not show at all seems to initialize but I get no image.

That PCI device looks like Bluetooth, use Wireless Console to turn it on and install the Bluetooth driver again.

For the webcam, insert the CD, browse folder and go to D:\\Camera\\Bison\\setup.bat, it's setup.bat not setup.exe
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post #385 of 447
3/24/07 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
I'll try my best, in fact I just request the BIOS fix, I was told that their R&D are very busy right now, hopefully it won't take long. Also they will be celebrating Chinese new year soon, all business will be closed in Taiwan for I think 10 days.
GenTechPC, turbogear - something new with A6KT BIOS? Asus provides drivers for Vista http://support.asus.com/download/dow...-us&model=A6Kt , but nothing about a new BIOS...
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post #386 of 447
3/24/07 at 8:42pm
Hi people! Hi Ken! =)

I just bought a notebook, this one:

Asus Z53JSeries
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU
T5500 @ 1.66GHz 1.66 GHz
32 bits OS
ATI Mobility Radeon X1700
2048MB
15.4" WXGA
HD 120GB
M/B Version: F3JP


The problem is that I have some sort of Grain on my LCD , I did read everything on that forum it seems interesting, I did so many things:

I first Had the Bios V204

I saw that the V203 solve the grain problem! yay! ^^ but Winflasher dont want to downgrade from V204 yo 230 , I kinda lost hope .... until I saw the V205T1!

They said that version solve the grain problem ... not for me I flashed to V205T1 and it does work, Sparkling and twinkel everywhere ;P

Now I triyed finally the Bios V207 but it does not work either =)

Well I have 2 question pleaaase ^^

1. How can I downgrade Bios, it dont wanna downgrade obviously, is there is manual solution, if yes, is it safe?

2. Do this problem will stay forever? if yes I dont know what to do then =(

Thank you Ken and All you guys! you are very dynamic =)

Cheers!

Wirefrost
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post #387 of 447
3/24/07 at 9:03pm
Hi guys Again
I just found how to Downgrade to V203, the grain still remain ^^

I noticed that My catalyst is not working either, since the first time I got my laptop, the graphic device is working but Catalyst program just have a disfunction.

Could it be ATI driver Catalyst conflict with the Mother Board?

thanks!

Wirefrost
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post #388 of 447
3/24/07 at 11:00pm
Back

I triyed all the customized Bios, I triyed the official ones too, nothing worked, I alwas have grain on the screen :s

I solved the ATI driver Catalyst problem but that have nothing to do with the Bios I think.

Well Now I did everything I could ...

maybe my laptop is dead, anything inside burned?

need Help pleaaase ^^

thank you
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post #389 of 447
3/25/07 at 5:34am
Hi Wirefrost,

to load a Bios, the best way is to do that directly under Bios and not use Winflash or any Windows utility. At boot, click on F2 to go into Bios, and there is a menu to flash Bios. There is even another key to hit at boot time to go directly under this menu, but I don't remember which one. The only thing you have to do before is to put your Bios file in an easy place to retrieve it from Bios, the best being C:\
And from Bios, there is no check if you're upgrading or downgrading. So downgrade is possible. Just be careful, I guess there is NO CHECK AT ALL, and the risk to load another file than a Bios is possible... which could produce unpredictable results !
Personnally, I use Winflash once, only to check the bios file is recognized as a valid Bios file.

Second point now, about grainyness : are you sure that your display parameters are set to use "optimal quality 32 bits" (in XP : right click on desktop, menu Property, tab Parametres in french, parameters or advanced ? in english. the rightest tab) ? I helped one a guy in a french forum, who thought to still have the graininess after loading the right Bios (but it was on a F3Ja, under XP, not exactly the same than you), and who actually had his display parameter set to a wrong value !
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post #390 of 447
3/25/07 at 5:37am
@ Ken :

Hi Ken, did you get some news from Asus about availability of OFFICIAL Bios "grainy free" for F3Ja ? It's a long time now we're using the beta Bios you provided us, Asus released even two new Bios since this date, but not fixing Graininess issue, a lot of drivers for Vista, but always nothing for "grainy free" Bios !
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post #391 of 447
3/25/07 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by Laurent Grenet
Hi Wirefrost, to load a Bios, the best way is to do that directly under Bios and not use Winflash or any Windows utility. At boot, click on F2 to go into Bios, and there is a menu to flash Bios. There is even another key to hit at boot time to go directly under this menu, but I don't remember which one. The only thing you have to do before is to put your Bios file in an easy place to retrieve it from Bios, the best being C:\\ And from Bios, there is no check if you're upgrading or downgrading. So downgrade is possible. Just be careful, I guess there is NO CHECK AT ALL, and the risk to load another file than a Bios is possible... which could produce unpredictable results ! Personnally, I use Winflash once, only to check the bios file is recognized as a valid Bios file. Second point now, about grainyness : are you sure that your display parameters are set to use "optimal quality 32 bits" (in XP : right click on desktop, menu Property, tab Parametres in french, parameters or advanced ? in english. the rightest tab) ? I helped one a guy in a french forum, who thought to still have the graininess after loading the right Bios (but it was on a F3Ja, under XP, not exactly the same than you), and who actually had his display parameter set to a wrong value !
Hey Laurent Thank you for answearing me I'm on Windows Vista, I checked the VGA display and I find that I'm using 32, wich is natural I think. Unfortunatly the Problem still here Thank you Wirefrost
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post #392 of 447
3/26/07 at 8:11pm
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Laurent Grenet, I am sorry, nothing from them yet but I'll keep follow up with them.

leoc980, nothing yet, I am sorry.

Turbogear and Wirefrost, they just sent me new BIOS F3JP V207 and "should" fix the graininess according to Asus, try it if it works I'll tell them to upload it:

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/images/N...sus/F3JpAS.207
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post #393 of 447
3/26/07 at 9:29pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Wirefrost
Hey Laurent

Thank you for answearing me

I'm on Windows Vista, I checked the VGA display and I find that I'm using 32, wich is natural I think.

Unfortunatly the Problem still here

Thank you

Wirefrost

The version 205 is confirmed by Turbogear it fixed the graininess, I had tested v203 myself and I do see the graininess is gone, I am not sure why it didn't fix for you, did you go to BIOS to save the settings after you flash it?
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post #394 of 447
3/27/07 at 12:11pm
Hello Ken, hi people =)
Thank you so much for helping us, you are as fast as Asus themselfs! lol

They sent me the V207AS this morning also and I flashed my computer with it.
I used this method

1. Put the ROM into C:\ and Restart my computer
2. Press F4
3. Choose the right ROM
4. Flash it
5. When successful I restart the computer and Press F2
6. In the Bios window I press F10 to save and restart again
7. The grains are still there
8. I restart my system and Press F2 to be sure of the BIOS version
9. I'm sure that I flashed the good version because I can read it there

That's how I proceed ^^

But unfortunatly again, there is no cure to my computer for now, even if I have exactly the same problem like others here "saw the screenshots", and these people solved the problem with V203 and V205T1 =) while It dident for me.

I sent ASUS this morning that it's not working for me, hope is the only thing that I still have =)

Thank you KEN!
Thank you people =)
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post #395 of 447
3/27/07 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
The version 205 is confirmed by Turbogear it fixed the graininess, I had tested v203 myself and I do see the graininess is gone, I am not sure why it didn't fix for you, did you go to BIOS to save the settings after you flash it?
Yo ^^ Well Yes I've tested the V203 the V203 modified, I had the 204, I tested also the 205 and the 205 modified, The 206, 207 (don't fix grains) and this morning the last 207. After Flashing I alwas restart press F2 and be sure of the new version I have and then save and restart again. Maybe it's because I dont really have a F3JP but I have a Z53JP, knowing that the Z53JP works also like a F3JP. PS: Asus Z53JSeries Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz 1.66 GHz 32 bits OS Windows Vista ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 2048MB 15.4" WXGA HD 120GB M/B Version: F3JP <==== here Well that's it ^^, I don't know what's happening with my computer. the new Information I have is that when I connect a VGA monitor to my notebook, I cant see grains on my VGA monitor, but alwas see them in my LCD notebook. I tried safe mode to know if it's software, but the grains are still there so it's not the ATI X1700 drivers for sure, I think it's : A defect on my screen BIOS? Conflict between my material I dont know :s We will see Thank you Ken =)
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post #396 of 447
3/27/07 at 7:22pm
Thread Starter 
Hi Wirefrost, can you take a clear picture (not screenshots) of dark background?
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post #397 of 447
3/27/07 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
Hi Wirefrost, can you take a clear picture (not screenshots) of dark background?
Hello Ken You can see in the first picture that the Grains appear just in certain colors, not all of them, here my vista desktop http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...254e266664.jpg Second picture, We can see them clearly, they are not Stars in the sky but grains http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...dd517835c3.jpg The Third photo proove that it's not a total screen defect because the grains appear just in certain colors ( you can see the colors upper) http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...8578c37735.jpg PS: please zoom on the pictures to see more clearly Thank you Ken
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post #398 of 447
3/27/07 at 9:21pm
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Hi Wirefrost,
I've seen all 3 problems but, with 4 different notebooks.

On your picture 1, does it look similar to you? :



On your picture #2, I've seen a laptop with a defective vid card and other one with the drivers issue, the other one RMAed, and the one with driver problems you can try this:
1: Boot to safe mode.
2: uninstall video card driver in safe mode
3: don't reboot the laptop, go to file search and search for ATI*, delete all files found and reboot.
4: reinstall the driver from Asus driver CD.

I don't gurantee it'll fix it but doesn't hurt to try.

on picture #3, it does look like there is graininess but can you take another closer picture with the dark background?
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post #399 of 447
3/28/07 at 6:08am
Hello Ken ^^

Thank you for answering me so fast!

On the picture you sent, this problem is exactly the same for me! the grains dont appear on every part of the screen but appear on certain colors, here in the pic you sent we can see a concentration of grains in the gradation between 2 colors.

Ok I will try to uninstall ATI drivers in safemode, but there is another problem, the ATI Catalyst driver they gave me in my CD have a problem with Vista, the video acceleration works correctly but the Catalyst utility fail to boot and it crashes when I first start the computer.
I will try this uninstall anyway

Ok I'll take another close picture but as I said before these grains hardy appears on dark colors, Black is safe from grains, Red too and many others, but there is some bright color that show the grains.

I will send another picture more closer on dark grainny screen.

Thank you =)

Wirefrost
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post #400 of 447
3/28/07 at 10:30am
Hello again =)

I booted on Safemode but I'm not allowed to uninstall drivers in it

What I did is
1. Uninstalled drivers from normal mode
2. restart in safe mode, search and delete all the ATI files
3. restart in normal mode again and install CD drivers

Grains are still there

I'm sur it's not drivers, since even BIOS window is grainny too :s

Here some other pics of my problem

http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...fd8e4958b9.jpg
http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...4de7312277.jpg
http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...99d3e5c477.jpg
http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...2c316f3273.jpg
http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...45a38f99f0.jpg
http://host-images.surf-remunere.com...d077adfc89.jpg
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