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post #1 of 14
2/24/03 at 2:52pm
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Hello Everyone,

I've been shadowing you all for about 3 weeks and received a tremendous amount of information from you. Thanks for putting in all the time you do sharing what you have learned!

I just ordered my 8887 last week; I got the fully loaded one with an extra 40gb 5400 rpm drive for the expansion bay, extra power supply, and the 3 year extended warranty. Really excited to get it!

My question is:
I want set up the box for a dual boot dual boot configuration so that the standard XP pro on the 60 gig stays the same, however I'd like to have the 40 gig 2nd drive be booted off of in Windows 2000 Advanced Server and have some of the other MS server products be on that load so I can demo some software applications. My guess is there will be a BIOS setting to enable the choice of which drive to boot off of each time I fire it up. Do any of you have experience with this or any recommendations?

I appreciate your help!
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post #2 of 14
2/24/03 at 10:05pm
Congratulations on your coming 8887. Hope you enjoy it!!!!!!!!

On the dual boot, I must say that you have to install Win2K first and then the WinXP. After you had installed both OS each time you turn on the computer appears a menu where you choose the OS you want. By default you have 30 seconds to choose. One thing that I have unclear is if you have to install the Win2K on C: and WinXP on other or if you can Install Win2K on other first and then WinXP on C:.

thanks in advance....
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post #3 of 14
2/24/03 at 10:36pm
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Sequence ...

Nandy,

Thanks for the advice, hope I'll be able to keep XP on C: drive and W2K Server on the 2nd HD. I'll post back and let you guys know how it goes....

So stoked that I'm getting this. Can't wait ... Supposed to arrive Wednesday ... Know I'm going to be useless the next day after staying up all night loading it up!
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post #4 of 14
2/25/03 at 12:35am
Well, if you've ordered the laptop with XP, you'll have to re-install.

As Nandy said, XP needs to go on last. You can select which drive you want to install on during the installation of the OS's... obviously pick "D:" for your 2000/server install, then install XP on C:

One important note is that you must have the MP3 player OUT of the laptop when you install either/both OS's. Windows will assign drive letter "C:" to it otherwise (whether there is an SD card in it or not).

Good luck, you're going to have a couple days worth of installing... also, search around on these forums for the ORDER that drivers are installed. I believe it's also in the manual, but I rarely RTFM.

-myrkat
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post #5 of 14
2/25/03 at 12:39am
Can someone verify that the BIOS actually will allow selecting either drive as the startup drive. I have an older Sager 3350 and its BIOS won't allow it.

-- Daryl
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post #6 of 14
2/25/03 at 12:50am
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Originally posted by daryl
Can someone verify that the BIOS actually will allow selecting either drive as the startup drive. I have an older Sager 3350 and its BIOS won't allow it.

-- Daryl
I think what Nandy and I were getting at was letting NTLoader choose your OS since they're both Windows/NTFS (I'll assume), if you are wanting to HIDE each partition/drive, i.e. have them both as "C:" drives (essentially), then I cannot verify this, as I have only one drive in my 8887-X

Maybe I'll order another 60GB/5400 when PCTorque gets them in, but I doubt it would be any time soon.

Sorry, someone else will have to verify the BIOS setting.

-myrkat
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post #7 of 14
2/25/03 at 1:14am
The BIOS is not the key here. The OS is. On my home computer I have 2k Advanced Server on my first hard disk and 2K Pro on the second. The first OS you install, as others here have noted, should be the OLDER OS. Win 2k Server in this case. Just choose where to put it durring install. Remember, there is a BOOT partition and a SYSTEM partition and they may not always be the same drive. The "system files" loaded right after post go on the BOOT partition C: and the Windows "SYSTEM" files (default x:\winnt) can go somewhere else. The newer OS is installed after since it will be aware of the older OS and will include it as a choice in the file "BOOT.INI"; a hidden file that has the OS choices, default boot info and where all the OS's are so they can be booted. This file is a text file and can be edited manually if needed.

In short, don't worry; newest OS last and you will be fine.
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post #8 of 14
2/25/03 at 1:25am
Right now I have XP on the C drive and ME on the D drive. Could I do a repair reinstall of XP on the C drive and have it see ME on the D drive and be able to select ME as the system occasionally?

-- Daryl
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post #9 of 14
2/25/03 at 2:00am
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Originally posted by daryl
Right now I have XP on the C drive and ME on the D drive. Could I do a repair reinstall of XP on the C drive and have it see ME on the D drive and be able to select ME as the system occasionally?

-- Daryl
First off, why would you ever want to keep Windows ME around?

Second, YES, when you repaired XP, it should still see ME (provided it saw it before you're doing the repair).

Again, the rule of thumb is: OLDER OS installed FIRST, then NEWER.

Since ME is older than XP, and ME is not really designed for multiple boot partitions, as XP is, you should have installed ME first (I am not sure that can be installed on the "D" drive, you may have to install it on the "C" and physically swap the drives in the bays, then install XP on the new "C").

It sounds more confusing that it really is, and my eyes are getting dry, so I may not be making much sense.

-myrkat
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post #10 of 14
2/25/03 at 2:46am
I've done this a while back with loading RH8 using the nt bootloader (was convenient - Toshiba - Legacy Free BIOS - nuff said), so I don't have the exact details.

You can copy the first 512 bytes of the bootable partition to a file and call it winme.dos or something like that, copy it to the boot drive where xp or 2k's ntloader is, reference it with boot.ini, and it will appear as a menu choice in the NT bootloader.

You might want to try searching for a more exact procedure on google or something.
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post #11 of 14
4/30/03 at 2:11am
In XP, right click on My Computer, go to 'Advanced' tab, at the 'Startup and Recovery' section click on 'Settings'

At the top of this tab, you will see options for startup. Which Os to boot, and how long to wait for you to make your choice.

There is also the option to edit the boot.ini as well.

Hope that helps!
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post #12 of 14
4/30/03 at 2:32am
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Originally posted by daryl
Right now I have XP on the C drive and ME on the D drive. Could I do a repair reinstall of XP on the C drive and have it see ME on the D drive and be able to select ME as the system occasionally?

-- Daryl
I would also like to know why you would want or need to use ME? The only thing I ever use ME on is a 500mhz celeron system I use as a Home theater PC. All I need it to do is run media player and windvd and I still hate it. God I hate that computer. Its going bye bye as soon as I get my sager.
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post #13 of 14
4/30/03 at 12:26pm
I have an adapter for an older TI programmable calculator that will interface it with a computer. Current TI software is known to not work in XP. It does work in Windoze ME. I tried all the compatibility stuff and it still won't work. I don't need to reprogram the calculator very often, and I can do it from the calculator itself, so I'm letting it slide at this point.

-- Daryl
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post #14 of 14
5/3/03 at 1:21pm
I am going to install Windows Server 2003 and XP-Pro on separate partitions. Following this idea, should I load XP THEN 2003 Server?

That's what I am thinking. I will be loading on Tuesday-and will let you know. I have done 2kserver and XP, and of course added XP last with NO problems.

Worst case scenario, I will just get a 2nd drive when I need to run Server 2k or server 2003.
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