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post #21 of 32
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I use my comp for mostly basic stuff (besides video editing) but i do this while on safari, itunes playing, on word, and downloading torrents. Do u think 2 gigs will benefit me?
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by AppliedVisual
...Not sure where you got that information, but on large-move memory operations and high-bandwidth situations, there's a clear difference. After all, the base rate is 66MHz higher and both the CPU and system memory bus in the macbook, iMac as well as other Intel 9x5 chipset systems, exceeds that of the RAM -- so the RAM can become a bottleneck under intensive CPU <-> RAM operations. Not to mention the 667MHz / 333MHz base, syncs properly with the CPU bus and helps releive cache load in those memory intensive tasks.

Running Word, Xcel, Safari, Mail, or just playing back movies on YouTube won't stress your system and you'll never notice a difference or care. Video encoding/editing, 3D rendering, large database sorts, etc... The difference is apparent.

Either way, not buying the 667MHz is somewhat foolish based on price alone... It's the same price, if not cheaper as it's currently produced in higher volume due to demand.

I'm getting dejavu typing this... Probably because the net was riddled with these same forms of discussions last time around with PC-2700 vs. PC-32

00 DDR.


my info is ALL over the web. 533 doesnt outperform 667 in any way. but the 667 really doesnt perform all that much better than the 533.

my point was simply get what the OPer can get. i went ahead with the 667 cause i got it for a steal. 533 will not hurt the laptop in any way, and no one will ever notice the difference. the bottleneck in these machines these days is not the ram anyways, its the HD's.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by apg96
I use my comp for mostly basic stuff (besides video editing) but i do this while on safari, itunes playing, on word, and downloading torrents. Do u think 2 gigs will benefit me?
a gig should cover it.
post #24 of 32
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Originally Posted by kgeier82
533 doesnt outperform 667 in any way. but the 667 really doesnt perform all that much better than the 533.

I suppose it's a matter of perspective... I've built enough systems and with the jobs I do, I see the difference even without running benchmark software. OTOH, the performance gain is small. It's like comparing the 2GHz Core Duo CPU to the 2.16 version -- most people will never notice a difference unless they actually compare benchmarks. In general use situations, nobody is going to know - you're right. But when the system is given a task like rendering out animation frames or transcoding video from HDCAM to DVCPROHD formats, or other such stuff I do all day long, every little bit of performance helps.

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533 will not hurt the laptop in any way, and no one will ever notice the difference.

Yep, it won't hurt the laptop in any way... Most people won't know the difference, but there's always freaks like me.

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the bottleneck in these machines these days is not the ram anyways, its the HD's.

Unless of course your system is grinding away on a task that doesn't hit the drives much or at all. But for most people under general use, 99% of all their waiting on their system is when they load applications or files, provided they have enough RAM where the computer isn't swapping out to disk all the time.

I'm probably about the only one on these forums that even thinks about stuff this way. I have an extreme overclocker attitude and approach to most of my workhorse systems as every little bit counts for something. Animation sequences that take days to render across multiple systems can see huge savings in time / money (less downtime while we wait for results, faster turn-arounds, etc..) by simply adding a few MHz. I'll shut up now...
post #25 of 32
no no, i agree with you applied visual, i buy the high speed stuff for the same reasons you do, to do it once and only once.

but most of my suggestions on here are for " the avg user" so i simply said get what he can get, in this situation.

a lot of the time on my macbook, the hard drive is almost taking off its so busy
post #26 of 32
Thread Starter 
i ordered 2 gigs of 667 off newegg for a total of like 200 bucks, not too bad. It was G. Skill i think.
post #27 of 32
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Originally Posted by apg96
i ordered 2 gigs of 667 off newegg for a total of like 200 bucks, not too bad. It was G. Skill i think.

Yeah the G.Skill, Buffalo Select and Patriot memory are all right about $100 per 1GB module. They all seem to be getting good reviews. I noticed that newegg has 1GB G.Skill modules listed as open-box for $69.99 and that may be a good deal if they have more than just one of them and will still offer a return if they're defective.
post #28 of 32
got my patriot 1gb 667 for 75$ shipped on special from NE. LOOKED it up the other day, and damn, 112$!!!
post #29 of 32
He forgot to specify one thing - at standard TIMINGS there won't be a difference. Currently, the 4/4/4/12 533 ram is just as fast as the 5/5/5/16 667 ram; thanks to the timings. Now, if you could find a stick that matched the 533 ram, you would plaster it silly. But until then, they really are the same bandwidth wise.

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Originally Posted by AppliedVisual
I suppose it's a matter of perspective... I've built enough systems and with the jobs I do, I see the difference even without running benchmark software. OTOH, the performance gain is small. It's like comparing the 2GHz Core Duo CPU to the 2.16 version -- most people will never notice a difference unless they actually compare benchmarks. In general use situations, nobody is going to know - you're right. But when the system is given a task like rendering out animation frames or transcoding video from HDCAM to DVCPROHD formats, or other such stuff I do all day long, every little bit of performance helps.



Yep, it won't hurt the laptop in any way... Most people won't know the difference, but there's always freaks like me.



Unless of course your system is grinding away on a task that doesn't hit the drives much or at all. But for most people under general use, 99% of all their waiting on their system is when they load applications or files, provided they have enough RAM where the computer isn't swapping out to disk all the time.

I'm probably about the only one on these forums that even thinks about stuff this way. I have an extreme overclocker attitude and approach to most of my workhorse systems as every little bit counts for something. Animation sequences that take days to render across multiple systems can see huge savings in time / money (less downtime while we wait for results, faster turn-arounds, etc..) by simply adding a few MHz. I'll shut up now...
post #30 of 32
I can't really say much about 1 gig or 1.5 gig compared to 2 gig, but it certainly is an improvement over a half gig!
Yes, as others have said, if you're planning on using Parallels, get 2 gig. I get no hit on performance in OS X while Parallels is running.
Get it from newegg and install yourself. Make sure you have a set of precision screwdrivers (phillips size #00) to unscrew the itsy bitsy teeny little screws.
post #31 of 32
i foudn the several phillips size #00 didnt work. i had to go back to sears 2x befoe i bought the one i needed. some just didnt fit the head of the screws.

but hey, i got a blue screwdriver now
post #32 of 32
why not just buy a kit of small screw drivers a la radioshack?
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