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The browser war

post #1 of 47
Thread Starter 
which browser do you guys use the most? I personally used to use firefox since early beta, but i recently switched over to opera about 2 montsh ago and im in love....

hate IE... lol
post #2 of 47
I used IE since IE was born

Good enough for me
post #3 of 47
IE 6 & 7. A majority of internet users can't be wrong.
post #4 of 47
Always used IE for normal use and FireFox for accessing Uni intranet pages through proxy (lazy so couldn't be bothered changing setting every time).

Recently started using the IE beta and having used it for quite some time now (the early beta was crap and didn't last 5 mins with me) think it is great...
post #5 of 47
Firefox. Love its extensions--great customization capability.
post #6 of 47
Firefox its great after I Managed to involve windows media player!
post #7 of 47
Firefox w/ Silverskin theme...fits my desktop scheme much better....although, now that IE has tabbed browsing, i dont mind using IE
post #8 of 47
If you use IE, I hate you. As a web developer, I would say that I spend more time fixing IE flaws than actually creating a design. Make my life easier (please?) by sending Microsoft a message and using something other than IE.

Also, I use Firefox to compromise between power (extensions) and web standards (mostly compliant, but no Opera or Konqueror to be sure).
post #9 of 47
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Originally Posted by kypen
If you use IE, I hate you. As a web developer, I would say that I spend more time fixing IE flaws than actually creating a design. Make my life easier (please?) by sending Microsoft a message and using something other than IE.

Also, I use Firefox to compromise between power (extensions) and web standards (mostly compliant, but no Opera or Konqueror to be sure).
True dat. I hate creating code that works fine and conforms to the W3C standards and people complain because it "doesnt work". They all inevitably use IE, but the code will work on any other browser....that is a PITA, esp cuz people then think you dont know how to code
post #10 of 47
IE here I just used it so long none of the others seem or feel right. I can't help it the devil makes me use IE
post #11 of 47
I don't think there's a war here. Firefox is hands down the best browser out these. Don't give me that the IE is the most popular browser so it is better BS. The freakin' OS comes with it and most people don't know how to download others.
post #12 of 47
It might not be the best. But seeing as it is the most used on the internet, you should code for it first, then modify for the others. Targeting 10% of the internet then cursing the remaining 90% doesn't make sense businesswise.
post #13 of 47
When i was a mindless kid, I used IE, but then after gaining some knowledge, I switched to Firefox. Then to Netscape 8.0, but my computer kept freezing up after using it for awhile. Then I tried the Firefox 2 beta, and that was horrible, so i went back to Firefox. Then I heard about the better secuirty that Opera has, so I went to that, but after getting Vista RC1, i went back to Firefox, because Aero doesn't work with Opera.

But because I'm about to ditch Vista RC1 (till i get my E1705), I may be going back to Opera.
post #14 of 47
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Originally Posted by WackyT
It might not be the best. But seeing as it is the most used on the internet, you should code for it first, then modify for the others. Targeting 10% of the internet then cursing the remaining 90% doesn't make sense businesswise.

this is very true and an unfortunate reality of the business world. only problem is if you code something properly, it might not work on on the majority of web browsers. its very difficult to know what your code is going to do since IE doesnt play by the rules. the result is that your code requires numerous "band-aids" at best, or at worst an entire re-design to work with IE. It also makes code almost impossible to debug (Visual C++ is the same way - it will compile fine on Unix/Linux , which comply with ANSI standards and give hundreds of errors when compiling the same code in Visual Studio. So in order to make it work with Windows, you need to fix all those errors, thus breaking your unix-compatible code)

If you are a developer developing for MS systems, the MSDN library's "Knowledge Base" is a REQUIREMENT(available with a several thousand dollar MSDN subscription, or free online at http://msdn.microsoft.com). This program is a searchable database that includes several gigabytes of content that describes "work arounds" to known bugs in MS software. Just the fact that this database exists is proof of the fact that MS knows their software doesnt work as it should, and they just don't care. They just publish a document describing the bug and call it good.
post #15 of 47
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For all of you members out there, i reccormend opera, quite similar to IE in terms of functionality but better than firefox in my opinion. That being said, it is an opinion, so make your own decision, every browser has its good sides which are good for certain people.
post #16 of 47
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Originally Posted by BIGEE1212
For all of you members out there, i reccormend opera, quite similar to IE in terms of functionality but better than firefox in my opinion. That being said, it is an opinion, so make your own decision, every browser has its good sides which are good for certain people.

I actually like Opera better than Firefox also.
post #17 of 47
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Originally Posted by kypen
If you use IE, I hate you. As a web developer, I would say that I spend more time fixing IE flaws than actually creating a design. Make my life easier (please?) by sending Microsoft a message and using something other than IE.

Also, I use Firefox to compromise between power (extensions) and web standards (mostly compliant, but no Opera or Konqueror to be sure).

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Originally Posted by WackyT
It might not be the best. But seeing as it is the most used on the internet, you should code for it first, then modify for the others. Targeting 10% of the internet then cursing the remaining 90% doesn't make sense businesswise.

^^You sir just took the words right out of my mouth. Also from a technical standpoint any kind of coding, developing etc is spent mostly fixing up bugs and making things work the way you the developer wants them to, that is what coding is all about. If you don't like fixing bugs you should't have chosen to become a web developer.

I myself am an MIS and I chose to be an MIS because I love doing business, I love computers and I absolutely love playing around with new features and technologies. But also as an MIS I have to take care of every user's problems almost 75% of the time, the other 25% of the time I can actually dedicate to playing around with technology and implementing changes.
post #18 of 47
Firefox all the way...its faster and the extension add so much functionslity...it puts IE to shame...
post #19 of 47
wondered if this would turn into flame war...so far so good...anyway, you cant justify coding for IE just bc its integrated so deeply into the OS and thus most ppl use it...Saying ''it is what it is'' will never get you anywhere...

but from a business sense, hmm...
post #20 of 47
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Originally Posted by zzpulp
wondered if this would turn into flame war...so far so good...anyway, you cant justify coding for IE just bc its integrated so deeply into the OS and thus most ppl use it...Saying ''it is what it is'' will never get you anywhere...

but from a business sense, hmm...

It's your choice if you wish to not make your sites work with IE. I've even gone to sites where IE isn't allowed in. It just redirects you to an ad for Firefox. To me though, alienating 90% of your potential customers on the internet doesn't make good business sense. If I were to hold interviews for a web design job, and an applicant said they refused to code for IE, I don't think he or she would make it onto the short list.
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