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Thread Starter 
I have a compaq presario R3200US, Pent4 3Ghz, ATI radeon 9100 grafix, bcm4306 wifi, 512 ram.
Just to give a few specs because I've seen a lot of 3200's that are AMD64's.

The problem is that I can not get a full charge - only 30%. The laptop runs fine on AC and battery power. I don't think it is a short in the power connector because it will charge up to 30 with no problem. That tells me that it shouldn't be the connector/ but I have noticed a great drop in temp on the charger since this has happened.

I was thinking that it has to be the battery - but before I go out and buy a new one, I wanted to see if anyone else had this problem.

Love the computer other than the battery problem. Running linux on it for over a year now and havn't had any problems. Great 3d support and wifi works.

Also - if anyone has a good step by step break down of this box, that would be great.
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TIP: Post how "old" an item is... and "how" you've been "using" the battery....

Example, are you: Charging it UP and removing from A/C, or leaving the battery in ALL the time while on A/C power. Or removing the battery while using the machine on A/C power, etc.

By the specs and you saying you've been running Linux on it for over a year now I'd say the battery needs to be replaced. (Battery is over a year old)

Battery, depending on how it's used will last about a year +/-

Breakdown of machine ? On most HP's/Compaq's you can go to www.hp.com, type in the model number and get a pdf of the Maintance and Service Guide.

Links which "may" have some useful info:
http://www.laptop-repair.info/index.html
http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~motl/h...classical.html
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Here's a manual that may help, give you some ideas:

http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~motl/h...ard/manual.pdf
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I have a quite old HP Laptop (Pavilion N3210, AMD K6 433MHz), yet it occasionally has the same problem. What I discovered is that, on a regular basis (About once every three to six months), the battery needs to be "recalibrated". If this isn't done, it can cause the power meter to, for some unknown reason, begin to slip. In the end, even though the battery actually is at 100%, the meter may only read 80% (As is my case), or in more extreme instances, 30% like for you.

My model of laptop included a "battery learning utility". It's a program that boots from floppy or CD. I connect the AC adapter, insert the learning utility disk, then turn on the computer. What it'll do then is run the battery all the way down to absolutely empty (Or as close as possible without flatlining the battery). Then, it'll charge the battery all the way to full. After it is done, it adjusts 0% and 100% accordingly, thereby recalibrating the power meter to where it should be.

Without knowing exactly which model of R3200 you have (R3202, R3205, etc.), it's hard to say for certain. However, I imagine Compaq/HP might have a similar battery learning and calibration utility for your model. Check the HP website, if there is one, that's where you should be able to download it from. If you can't find it on there, then check the manual that came with your laptop, because it could be built in to the BIOS or some other diagnostic program included with the system, and the manual might tell you where to find it.
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Thread Starter 
thanks for all the info,
The laptop is 2 years or so old
I ran it on AC all the time for about a year, after which I started running on DC.
the true model number is R3320US
I'll try that learning utility you sugested Darkfligh
thanks again
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A battery in a laptop ages more quickly than in other applications because of heat. During use, the inside temperature of a laptop rises to 45°C (113°F). The combination of high temperature and full state-of-charge promotes cell oxidation, a condition that cannot be reversed once present. The battery's life expectancy when operating at high temperature is half compared to running at a more moderate 20°C (68°F) or lower. Leaving the laptop in a parked car under the hot sun will also aggravate the situation. All batteries suffer permanent capacity loss as part of elevated temperatures but lithium-ion is affected more than other batteries.

How to calibrate the battery

If possible, store the battery in a cool place at about a 40% state-of-charge. Some reserve charge is needed to keep the battery and its protection circuit operational during prolonged storage. The most harmful combination is full charge at high temperature. This is the case when placing a cell phone or spare battery in a hot car. Running a laptop computer on the mains has a similar temperature problem. While the battery is kept fully charged, the inside temperature during operation rises to 45°C (113°F).

Removing the battery From the laptop when running on fixed power protects the battery From heat but some battery and laptop manufacturers caution against it. They say that dust and moisture accumulating inside the battery casing could damage the laptop. The dealers will be happy to provide you with a new pack when a replacement is needed a little sooner.

The question is often asked if one should disconnect the laptop From the main when not in use. With lithium-ion it does not matter. Once the battery is fully charged, no further charge is applied. It is recommended, however, to turn the laptop off overnight because of heat harms the battery.
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Thread Starter 

problem fixed (thanks for the help)

I found that I had a problem with the app that was in charge of power managment. Since the app was seeing an inproper reading - The battery would only read as 30% at full charge , and shutdown after 0% was met.

I tried the tip for windows users (shutdown, disco AC, remove battery, reconnet AC, startup, and after startup replace battery while still powered up) - but this still gave the 30% reading.

I upgraded all ACPI packages and libs, and tried wmacpi for a change for monitoring - all is good now

-thanks again for all your info, I've learned quite a few things about batteries and guess I should feel happy that after a couple of years its still running strong
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