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post #21 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:11am
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BTW, does anyone use hijackthis or ccleaner and can tell me if alienguise loads up at the beginning of windows? If it does, I'm gonna unload it as well.
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post #22 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:15am
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On second thought, I wouldn't need to speed up the cpu fan, just the gpu...

If the computer is shutting down due to overheating it's definately due to the video card.

If a cpu overheats, it fries and you see smoke coming up. Ditto with ram, hdd, and other parts of your pc.

However, with newer video cards, if they overheat, they simply SHUT DOWN. That may be the trouble right there. The video card may be shutting down.
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post #23 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:19am
I've spent the last week giving up on the notion of a 15.4, with high res and real graphics card. It was painful.
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post #24 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:23am
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Yo, those of you with m5550 and shut down problems, what video card did you get?

I want to see if this is common, a common thing with a common number of video cards.

The answer HAS to be the video card.

The video card isn't corrupt, the cooling is. Now, when a cpu doesn't cool correctly, when it gets too hot, it simply burns up. You smell smoke, *poof*, goodbye cpu. Samething with memory, hdd, etc.

However, this is not the same with a gpu. When a video card gets over 80c, all it does is SHUT DOWN THE SYSTEM. Mine was doing this when I tried to overclock my core 2 duo desktop (I can overclock the core 2 duo, but the x1900xt is alemon when it comes to overclocking ).

If I had to make a logical guess, your video cards are probably getting to 80c and shutting down your systems...
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post #25 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:25am
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Also, in addition to the which video card you have, I'd like to know when the shut downs took place.

Can you surf the web and do normal things without getting shutdowns?

Does it happen more often when you play games?
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post #26 of 78
10/3/06 at 4:06am
The CPU fan and the GPU fan use heatpipes.. there is only one fan in the m5750. So if you speed up one, you are doing both the CPU and GPU fan.

Intel chips dont fry when they reach high temps... they clock back to save themselves.

Early AMD chips were notorious for overheating and frying themselves.
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post #27 of 78
10/3/06 at 10:58am
I dont have shut down issues.

However, you are incorrect on CPUs burning up. With Intel, "self frying chips" has not been an issue for a while now... they are made to clock themselves back to prevent that.

(Something I dont recommend) I have actually pulled off my P4's heatsink while running a looping demo of quake3 (much like Tom's hardware, I just had to try it), and all that happened was the system clocked down, down, down... but continued to run (at a really horrible frame rate) and no burn up.

AMD's for a long while did not have this, and easily fried themselves. Anyone remember when AMD had to start putting the four pads on their chips to make sure heatsinks were level? Hehe.... I remember losing a few CPUs prior to that.

When most of the forum visitors get these shut downs, its when they are doing -anything- on battery.
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post #28 of 78
10/3/06 at 11:58am
To even get near frying the CPU you would have to get it VERY hot, when I had my Macbook, as most macbook owners the CPU temp constantly ran at 60-80c which if I stand correct I could have kept my breakfast warm for quite a while.
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post #29 of 78
10/3/06 at 1:04pm
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Even so, if your gpu goes over 80c, your system shuts down.

The problem may be gpu overheating...
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post #30 of 78
10/3/06 at 1:59pm
It's not the video card G.O.D because all of use that had this problem have various video cards; ATI X1400, NVidia 7600... The laptop would just randomly shut down playing games, surfing the web or if left on idle. The shut off can happen after a few hours or even 15 mins of surfing the web (after fresh bootup). So it could be bad ram, the fan not going on enough or the bios needs to be updated... Or possibly the ram needs to be reseated or the heatsink is not screwed in tight enough. When my replacment arrives I will keep everyone posted. According to AW, the dvd drive is out of stock now... first the video card, ram and now this... I dont think I will ever get out of phase 3 lol
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post #31 of 78
10/3/06 at 2:13pm
After re-inserting the memory my shutdowns stopped. In total my system shut down 5 times during the first 3 days I owned it. After tightening down the heatsink, and re-fitting the memory into its slot I have had ZERO issues. My belief is that the memory was not making a proper contact with the motherboard and was causing a small short and shutting down the system.
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post #32 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by kalison
I dont have shut down issues.

However, you are incorrect on CPUs burning up. With Intel, "self frying chips" has not been an issue for a while now... they are made to clock themselves back to prevent that.

(Something I dont recommend) I have actually pulled off my P4's heatsink while running a looping demo of quake3 (much like Tom's hardware, I just had to try it), and all that happened was the system clocked down, down, down... but continued to run (at a really horrible frame rate) and no burn up.

AMD's for a long while did not have this, and easily fried themselves. Anyone remember when AMD had to start putting the four pads on their chips to make sure heatsinks were level? Hehe.... I remember losing a few CPUs prior to that.

When most of the forum visitors get these shut downs, its when they are doing -anything- on battery.


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post #33 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:53pm
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Hum.

Well then this problem could be a number of issues.

But yeah, an overheating videocard leads to a system shutting down. If you system is shutting down I'd check gpu temps.
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post #34 of 78
10/3/06 at 3:53pm
I'm still thinking most of these cases involve memory issues.

If the cpu is overheating, you'll usually see a massive slowdown prior to the machine shutting off.

With graphics overheating, you will usually see artifacts on screen before it shuts off.

Just suddenly shutting off is usually memory related in my experience.

It could be anything from a bad stick, to timings that don't work with other hardware, to software trying to write to an incorrect address.
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post #35 of 78
10/3/06 at 4:16pm
I agree with Hammerhead.

Also, I heard some people with positive results when flashing to the latest BIOS.
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post #36 of 78
10/3/06 at 11:52pm
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Best laptop cooler for my m5750?

After reading about the laptops running too hot and overheating, I'm scared.

What is the best laptop cooler for the m5750?
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post #37 of 78
10/4/06 at 12:44am
I think its a bad slot on the motherboard. My shutdown happen mostly on the boot screen. I was told to do the ms memroy test and take one memory stick out. When the memory is only in the top slot my M5550 would restart.
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post #38 of 78
10/4/06 at 3:34am
mine still hasnt shut down. i have the go 7600.

my laptop doesnt even get hot, and i disabled the clock down features, installed the dual core hotfix, and forced my video card to stay at max performance and overclock as necessary.
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post #39 of 78
10/4/06 at 4:50am
How long have you owned your m5550 mysticfire? I guess only about a dozen of us our having this random shutdown issue... and for the thousands of m5550 AW sold thats not so bad i guess huh?
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post #40 of 78
10/4/06 at 6:29am
I got the GO 7600, and had the random shutdown problem for about 2 weeks. hot or cold. Heavy load or no load. It would randomly go black.

However, after a month of use, the problem has completely stopped. I believe, with my m5550 anyway, that some component "burn in" and "seating" was necessary. Also, I run Notebook Hardware Control, and have the CPU set to Max Performance on AC power (I never run on DC, with 1.5 hours of battery power, whats the point).

So, in summary, my random shutdown problem has completely stopped after about 1 month of use. I didn't change anything, except update the bios to the new version (only change is to support the new Core 2 Duo), and let the computer "break it self in"
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