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post #1 of 28
10/6/06 at 4:26am
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just a quick question, what window manger do you all use? - if not total shell. For the few desktop users - Xfce,gnome, and least KDE users (hope not many of you use kde).

For all the managers and desktops I didn't mention (sorry) there are so many - flux & blackbox (very good) - etc.

I use windowmaker, debian distro, compaq 3320US, Engenius Senao 802.11b card /onboard broadcom sux, works fine but power has bit to offer/
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post #2 of 28
10/6/06 at 6:49am
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Originally Posted by ideacipher
just a quick question, what window manger do you all use? - if not total shell. For the few desktop users - Xfce,gnome, and least KDE users (hope not many of you use kde).

For all the managers and desktops I didn't mention (sorry) there are so many - flux & blackbox (very good) - etc.

I use windowmaker, debian distro, compaq 3320US, Engenius Senao 802.11b card /onboard broadcom sux, works fine but power has bit to offer/





i only use Fluxbox



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post #3 of 28
10/6/06 at 8:51am
Window Managers vary based entirely on taste.

I use e17 myself, have used gnome, hated KDE.

Others love KDE, and think gnome is from the wastebasket, or worse yet, better suited for windows. To each their own.

Seablade
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post #4 of 28
10/6/06 at 4:57pm
Gentoo and a fast machine => I use KDE
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post #5 of 28
10/6/06 at 5:38pm
i never liked kde. currently using gnome because i find it to be most productive, however i've used xfce and fluxbox in the past and i liked them very much also.
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post #6 of 28
10/7/06 at 3:19am
I prefer KDE as well. Gnome is a bunch of parts with little integration (frustrating).
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post #7 of 28
10/7/06 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by cjcox
I prefer KDE as well. Gnome is a bunch of parts with little integration (frustrating).
That's funny. I feel exactly the same way about KDE. Gnome feels like one solid product while kde feels more like a sum of all its components.

The only thing I think kde has going for it are all the apps that integrate within it. It creates a ton of functionality, but also feels like a mess. I also think kde and qt in particular impose the 'kde' look too much on the user. Specifically, the default theme should look more generic and not so bubbly and shiney.
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post #8 of 28
10/7/06 at 5:28pm
this could get ugly

I like KDE too, mostly cuz that's what I've used. I liked Fluxbox, but didn't spend the time to get to know it. Coming from Windows KDE was more intuitive for me.
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post #9 of 28
10/7/06 at 7:33pm
i completely agree with what BT said, while gnome feels like one solid, integrated package, kde is just a sum of its parts. although i do appreciate some of the functionality that comes out of kde, overall i feel that kde is more bloated and has more useless junk running than gnome. i am not saying gnome is skinny by any means, but at least it doesn't impose itself on me. the qt/kde plastic and keramic themes (the most popular defaults) .. and most other qt themes for that reason look too childish and toy-like while gnome themes, at least in my opinion are more lean (then again currently using the default ubuntu theme).
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post #10 of 28
10/7/06 at 10:53pm
And this is where I start looking for the popcorn...

Seablade

Keep it clean
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post #11 of 28
10/7/06 at 11:47pm
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Originally Posted by seablade
And this is where I start looking for the popcorn...

Seablade

Keep it clean

you and your uber-sexy e17 config
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post #12 of 28
10/8/06 at 2:12am
amarok, konqueror, k3b, kaffeine... etc... etc..

So what stacks up to amarok in Gnome(actually GTK/Gnome apps.. I'll just say Gnome)? Banshee? Pathetic.

There is NO equivalent to konqueror in Gnome.. all disparate applications.

Kaffeine plays all audio and video (like Windows Media Player under Windows)... what does that in Gnome? It also allows you to broadcast what you are listening/watching so that multiple computers can enjoy. Gnome??

K3b... in a class unto itself.

I guess Gnome has gimp.... but Krita, Karbon14, Kivio and the rest of the KOffice suite (though perhaps not quite OpenOffice... still...)...

I'm not likely to change position, abf DEFINTELY will never change position... until he does.. and then he won't ever change again.. until he does....
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post #13 of 28
10/8/06 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by cjcox
amarok, konqueror, k3b, kaffeine... etc... etc..

So what stacks up to amarok in Gnome(actually GTK/Gnome apps.. I'll just say Gnome)? Banshee? Pathetic.

There is NO equivalent to konqueror in Gnome.. all disparate applications.

Kaffeine plays all audio and video (like Windows Media Player under Windows)... what does that in Gnome? It also allows you to broadcast what you are listening/watching so that multiple computers can enjoy. Gnome??

K3b... in a class unto itself.

I guess Gnome has gimp.... but Krita, Karbon14, Kivio and the rest of the KOffice suite (though perhaps not quite OpenOffice... still...)...

I'm not likely to change position, abf DEFINTELY will never change position... until he does.. and then he won't ever change again.. until he does....
The only app in your list that requires kde is... actually non of them require kde. I run everything you listed in gnome just fine. I don't consider any of them a part of 'kde'. They're all just qt apps. Konqueror is the only thing you mentioned that's deeply ingrained in kde. Btw, Listen Music Player stacks up pretty well to amarok.
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post #14 of 28
10/8/06 at 11:44am
Hmm, amarok...

Aqualung...

I think Ill take the aqualung. Not as flashy, but concentrates on quality.

By the way, Kaffiene uses the xine libs, like half a dozen media players out there, for example Totem, hell there is one that renders the video in ASCII art for the fun of it

For compatibility, and certainly for streaming, I tend to use VLC though. For my general use, definitly aqualung now.

Seablade

PS This isnt even defending gnome, this is just general use on ANY X11 GUI, as an example I use them on my already stated e17 environment.
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post #15 of 28
10/8/06 at 12:02pm
actually BT..i think you're wrong, k3b does use kdelibs as far as i can remember, and in either case I think that GnomeBaker is a very worth-while app to use.

Totem-xine is an excellent media (video and audio) player, although its not exactly an all-in-one like itunes or amarok, it does its job very well.

I see no purpose in Konqueror, its very slow as a web browser and extremely unstable as a file manager....IE anyone? I would much rather be using Firefox (or Opera) for browsing and Nautilus, hell even Thunar, for File management.
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post #16 of 28
10/8/06 at 12:25pm
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actually BT..i think you're wrong, k3b does use kdelibs as far as i can remember, and in either case I think that GnomeBaker is a very worth-while app to use.
Its unfortunate you are correct because K3B IS a good front end to the writing software, and would be even better if they didnt use those libs in my opinion Those libs add a lot of dead weight to me though, and since the VAST majority of my programs run either GTK, straight QT, FLTK, or some other toolkit that doesnt use the KDE Libs it means I try to avoid any KDE written program because it adds a LOT of dead weight. In fact I would place that as a rather serious drawback to KDE myself, the fact that it is its own development platform/environment. I dislike that a lot myself. Seablade
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post #17 of 28
10/8/06 at 3:52pm
just for ha-has here is my list of apps that i use in my ubuntu (gnome) setup:
Internet --- Firefox
Email -- Thunderbird
Chat -- Gaim 2
Pic Edit -- Gimp
Pic View -- Eye of Gnome
Office -- OOo
Console -- Gnome-Terminal
CD/DVD burn -- Gnome Baker
music -- Beep Media Player
video -- totem-xine
online media -- mplayer (firefox plugin)
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post #18 of 28
10/8/06 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by abf
actually BT..i think you're wrong, k3b does use kdelibs as far as i can remember, and in either case I think that GnomeBaker is a very worth-while app to use.
I just wanted to make the point that k3b runs fine within gnome. I have konqueror installed, but only so that amarok works perfectly.
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post #19 of 28
10/8/06 at 5:29pm
the way you put it it sounded like "k3b does not depend on kde" which is obviously false because kdelibs is a dependency for k3b. Of course most any kde app will run in gnome (as long as all the deps are met) as well as gnome apps will run in kde (as long as all the proper libs are there)...so its all good
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post #20 of 28
10/9/06 at 4:04am
Been a while since I tried Gnome -- does it have a built in download manager, a wireless adaptor manager, kicker apps like kweather, an easy way to link application executables with desktop icons?

One nice thing about KDE in Gentoo is the split ebuilds that allow you to install only the stuff you want to use.
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