My cat killed my M90. Need new Mobo! - Page 2

I'm fairly certain that even distilled water still can conduct electricity. De-ionized (which is a different process from distillation) water doesn't conduct electricity. I think there's a few things in water that are conductive that distillation doesn't remove. However, most bottled water is neither of the two, most bottled water is just tap water you pay 100 times the price for.

Yes. It can.



More like it conducts very poorly. Even at the purest you can theoretically get water, which if I recall my chemistry correctly ends up being like a 54 Molar solution, there are still free ions floating around. These ions come from the separation of one Hydrogen from the oxygen and the other hydrogen, result Hydrogen ion, and hydroxyl ion, this can't be prevented. However, in practical terms, it's almost non-conductive.


Absolutely true. Metal ions especially.

Since when have people with morals been considered "sheeple" and "holier than thou"? Since when has lying, stealing, and dishonesty become the publicly accepted standard of behaviour?

actually water itself (both deionized and distilled kinds) are relatively poor conductors as conductors go, especially if you compare them to something like mercury. that's not to say they DONT conduct, they just aren't as good as other materials. And, distilled or deionized, it doesn't really matter, as soon as they pick up other compounds, their conductivity tends to increase. so i didn't say water doesn't conduct, it just doesn't do as good a job as say, shorting the terminals of your laptop's battery with a metal screwdriver.

I know last year when I was working on my watercooling system for my desktop, I spilled some tap water on part of my motherboard and the system immediatly shut down. I let it dry, and it rebooted fine (although there was a nasty crust left over on the mobo, and some corrosion as a result). Modern computers are pretty smart - they can sense if something isn't right (something drawing too much or too little power) and they can turn themselves off if they sense trouble.

Well as a matter of fact I work with Pools of Dionized water, and I drop flood lamps into them all the time, with >20 Mohms resistance it doesn't conduct enough to hurt me.

It a little more of a buzz when I drop the 220vac lamps into it lol

Nothing "holier than thou" about my statement. It's a simple fact.. you're committing fraud. Whether or not you engage in such activity (I could care less; I have no control over it), in the end we all pay for it through inflated pricing. If you're somehow immune to that as well, more power to ya.

That's the typical American trailer trash mentality. They rationalize it by thinking the big companies are ripping us off one way or another which makes it perfectly fine to steal back "what they're owed". Of course the "getting ripped off" perception comes when companies are forced to inflate prices to negate the fraud/stealing. It's a vicious circle. There's that old saying "what goes around comes around".. they'll eventually get caught and pay one way or the other. I wouldn't worry about it.

Uh... Water spilled onto electric surfaces and let to fizzle and dry on itself creates really noticeable white water marks, even rust becomes apparent on nickel contacts surrounding some soldered-on chips and capacitors. And yean, if the computer wasn't turned on when the spill happened, his batter would've been removed, he wasn't pluged into the wall and he immediately started dismanteling and drying the system, there is no way to save it.

I know that I once droped my cel-phone into my pool during a get together I was having at my place and even though I was quite drunk my first reaction was to quickly get it out of the water and take of the battery. The cel phone lasted about 10 seconds under water while ringing with an incoming call before I finally took it out and popped off the battery. I instantly started to dry it with my shop vac on blow, then blow dryed it for a while until at least there was no more water noticeable from the outside. Then I left it on my car's dashboard all day long the next day under the heat. Lo and behold, that afternoon, I popped the battery back in and its been working perfectly to this very day. This is a Samsung A920 from Sprint wich I saved, spent about $300 on it when I bought it with my discount (didn't buy it with a new contract).

Dell will claim that its water damage so they won't do crap for you. The same thing happened to me, sans the water spilling over my keyboard. On the other hand, I paid the $500 for a new mobo, and then they gave me an XPS. Sweet deal for me!

So I didn't see what kind of warranty the OP had but this is more of a question of dell warranties. Does complete care not cover water/liquid damage?

And Dave-p, >20 MOhms? really? I think we're getting jipped here, our DI water is only 18.6 MOhms.

Nothing holier than though about it. Lying to anyone whether it is a large corporation or a small business is wrong. We are not talking about hey honey does my dress make me fat? We are talking about 2-3k machine.

BTW, whether you are American or not it constitutes FRAUD. This is referred to as a FELONY isn't it?

But as a typical slacker in these parts, you probably will justify your remarks with some BS about "Dell not being honest. They are a big corporation so they can afford it."

As for your defense remarks. What does being a Republican or for or against war have to do with not defrauding a company and being honest? Or being honest making me a sheeple? Actually more people would lie to save a buck to "get back at the man". So perhaps you are the Sheeple? Also, I know a lot of Democrats who would think you are an asshat for doing that as well. And they are against war. Oh, and against asshats breaking the law to save a buck too...

He never said he was better than you. He stated it takes a real prick to do that. And indeed someone does pay for it somewhere and it is not Dell. But hey Mr. I got Defense Stocks that went up you probably studied economics and know that already right?

ON TOPIC: I hope the OP ends up with a working machine whether drying it out or a new mobo. Either way, I hope it works out for you.