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anyway to apt-get to upgrade firefox?

post #1 of 10
10/22/06 at 11:50am
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using elive on a toshiba p4, (thanks afb your addition is contagious...) and I want to upgrade to the 2.0 RC3. Is there a way to use apt-get to upgrade? I'm not sure how to install the tarball that mozilla provides, but with some guidance could probally do this way if it's the correct way. Using unbuntu/xubuntu in the past i've mostly used the apt-get command line to install programs but cant remember if I've upgraded firefox before.

Thanks in advance guys.
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post #2 of 10
10/22/06 at 12:52pm
You will probably need to add a repository, standard Debian repos will work I believe, and most likely will need to add a testing or unstable repo in order to get a RC instead of a full tested release.

Problem with firefox on Debian is that it will probably not be called firefox in the standard repos as there is a catfight going on over the logo which debian views as non-free(As in speech) and thus hasn't included it. The moxilla foundation has then requested they no longer use the mozilla firefox trademark, so I am not real sure what it might be called now.

The probably better way to do it is to track down a debian package and use dpkg to install said package. Not sure if you might be able to do that from the mozilla site or not.

Seablade
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post #3 of 10
10/22/06 at 1:34pm
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I have found the tarball and pkgadd file on the mozilla site, pkgadd is for compiling from source?
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post #4 of 10
10/22/06 at 2:03pm
more info on debian/mozilla catfight:

Debian (including Ubuntu and other branches) mod the original Firefox code to disable the automatic updater feature. As such Mozilla Corporation is not allowing them to use the Firefox (fox around the world) logo and the "Firefox" name together. That is if you noticed in Ubuntu (and few other distros) they use the globe icon, or in case of Linspire they call it "Lbrowser" to avoid conflicts.

As for updating firefox from 1.5.0.7 to 2.0beta in elive... personally i am still using 1.5 beacuse I don't care much for the features in 2.0. But if you do wanna go ahead and update doing it through cvs is prolly your best bet... see this page: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs..._Documentation
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post #5 of 10
10/22/06 at 2:21pm
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thanks abf! i'll look into the link. Really just doing this to learn something else with linux... one of these days, after the move coming up I'll jump into gentoo and see how I fare with that.
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post #6 of 10
10/24/06 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by seablade
there is a catfight going on over the logo which debian views as non-free(As in speech) and thus hasn't included it.
Lol, there always seems to be some kind of catfight in the Debian camp, it's a bit like our own geeky linux reality show.
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Originally Posted by abf
more info on debian/mozilla catfight: Debian (including Ubuntu and other branches) mod the original Firefox code to disable the automatic updater feature. As such Mozilla Corporation is not allowing them to use the Firefox (fox around the world) logo and the "Firefox" name together. That is if you noticed in Ubuntu (and few other distros) they use the globe icon, or in case of Linspire they call it "Lbrowser" to avoid conflicts. As for updating firefox from 1.5.0.7 to 2.0beta in elive... personally i am still using 1.5 beacuse I don't care much for the features in 2.0. But if you do wanna go ahead and update doing it through cvs is prolly your best bet... see this page: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs..._Documentation
I didn't know that about the logo (though I am GLAD that automatic updates are disabled, personally). As for apt-get'ing it, it's still probably CALLED mozilla-firefox over at Debian, even if the logo's not being used. (K)ubuntu still uses that for a package name, I can't see Debian being all that different. -olly *EDIT* Oh, and I like the RC for 2.0 personally. I use it on my USB key at work (Windows machine), and the spell check function (having spell check built in to the browser rocks!) more than makes it worth it. Seems fairly stable too, though *sometimes* a little slow. -olly
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post #7 of 10
10/24/06 at 2:43pm
Yea the spellcheck is the only thing I am really anxious for, I am glad they are working it towards a much more modularized approach for in the future.

Currently it may be called mozilla-firefox for the package name(Not sure), don't expect that to remain though once the new release hits, Mozilla kinda gave them an ultimatum. Not sure if/how that will affect ubuntu.

Seablade
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post #8 of 10
10/24/06 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by seablade
Yea the spellcheck is the only thing I am really anxious for, I am glad they are working it towards a much more modularized approach for in the future.

Currently it may be called mozilla-firefox for the package name(Not sure), don't expect that to remain though once the new release hits, Mozilla kinda gave them an ultimatum. Not sure if/how that will affect ubuntu.

Seablade

At least in package naming, Ubuntu still seems to stick pretty close to sid, so I'd imagine if there is a Debian change, Ubuntu will change as well.

-olly
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post #9 of 10
10/24/06 at 8:20pm
if i am not mistaken in Breezy FF was compiled with myspell support so it already had built-in spell checking, at least i remember having it, also had it in gaim... haha! So if you dont care for 2.0RC just build FF from source enabling spelling
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post #10 of 10
10/24/06 at 10:57pm
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Originally Posted by abf
if i am not mistaken in Breezy FF was compiled with myspell support so it already had built-in spell checking, at least i remember having it, also had it in gaim... haha! So if you dont care for 2.0RC just build FF from source enabling spelling

I never noticed it if it was, but maybe it was something that needed to be added at compile, as youi said. But the default install in Dapper certainly doesn't have it (though I installed from the repo's, not from source). It works really well on RC 2.0 on Win at work though.

-olly
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