Just got the new Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro

remember, most salesmen dont really know all the details of what their selling. and add to that they are mac store employees, and baaam.

Uh ok so it seems you contradicted yourself in this post:


And then you wrote:


So do you benefit very little from the upgrade or as you said above, do you get tangible gains? lol.


Yet you wrote:


So apparently you did find some noticeable difference between the CPUs.

I was almost going to get the 17" mbp, but for the same money, I could get a hypersonic cx7 with a 7950gtx gpu.
But mbp is insane at their weight, only 6.8 pounds for a 17"...
The reason you don't notice a difference is its probably a 20% increase in speed, if you do stuff like encoding video or whatnot.
If you surf the web, of course you won't notice a difference.
Good thing is that after the new os comes out with a full version of bootcamp, then windows will work flawlessly, supposively. Only catch is you need a serial number...

i think he was getting it at being more worth the extra 200$ for the fw800/ faster cd drive, and more ram, more hd?

i believe thats what he was getting at.

what kind of battery life are you getting on the new C2D MBP?

supposedly the merom is a little better on battery, (although i've heard it's just faster w/ the same battery life as yonah).

just wondering if you could post your findings? thanks.

would the 64-bit really make a difference though since the os is 32-bit anyway? i think the fact that they are not advertising it is to keep an obvious market separation between the macbook, and thier other "higher end" products.

i thought 10.4 was 64bit compatible, not true 64bit though.?


i agree wit abf. they are trying to seperate the lines a tad bit, but they dont wanna do it to an extreme amount (which it would be if they adv. 64bit in pro's vs 32 in mb)

the mb will get a kick soon, im sure.

think all mac laptops have a 3gb limit right now

It's the chipset they're using. PC laptops with the same chipsets are limited to 3 as well, AFAIK. The system can see 4 gigs if it's installed but can only address 3.

Well then you should've been more clear about it! I went to my local genius bar but they were all out of juice. Anyway my MBP C2D shipped today! Expected delivery date is Nov. 1st..can't wait: Processor 0656642 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 0656619 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2x1GB Hard Drive 0656623 120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm Optical Drive 0656625 SuperDrive 6X Display 0656632 15 Glossy Widescreen Display Modem 0656645 None Apple Software Solutions 0656200 None Keyboard/Mac OS Language 0656627 BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS Country Kit/AEX 0656628 Country Kit

anyone know anything about the "speedstepping" tech in these new intel mb/mbp?

im wondering what , if they do step down and up to? i have the 1.83 duo, and coreduotemp reports it at 1.5ghz-1.83. yet when i open up coreduotemp monitor feature i see 1.33ghz all over?

hmmmm.

Got my 2.33 Ghz this past Saturday. Bought in my state employee I.D. badge and they gave me a discount of $200. Payed $1500 of it by check and the rest with a Sony credit card which gives me an additional $100 discount on my first purchase.
Total saved is $300.


I am very impressed and have stayed up late nights installing software and playing with it. It seems about as warm as my 17" Powerbook so no complaints and the fit and finish is perfect with no blown pixels. No whine or moo either so far. Glad I took the plunge.

Minor problem: Eject button dows not work in OEM Windows XP, but free software put an eject button in system tray so no biggie.

Wish they included an SD/multi adapter in expresscard slot.

Otherwise all I can say is WOW, WOW, WOW....

Sweet! Good to hear the problems seem ironed out.
I am one of those that fell into the return window. I was able to return my 17" MBP for the new C2D 17" MBP but I have to wait until early November to get it. My previous system was considered DOA, believe it or not, for having exhibited the circular ring on the palm rest defect. On top of that, it was a refurb, which is fine by me, but just curious why that circular problem was still there... Anyway, I can't wait to get the new one!

The next OS, Leopard, will be fully 64 bit. Here's the Apple site that details it-

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/64bit.html

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Here's some info regarding that 3GB RAM limit-


2007 Intel chipset should remove effective 3 GB RAM limit on some Macs
Tuesday, October 31 2006 @ 04:00 AM PST

We previously reported that while the Core 2 Duo-based MacBook Pro (Late 2006) can physically accommodate two 2 GB RAM modules for a total of 4 GB, Apple's specs list the model as able to recognize a maximum of 3 GB of RAM. The same limitation applies to Apple's Core 2 Duo-based iMacs.

The 3 GB spec results from Apple's attempt to protect users against purchasing memory that will not be usable by their systems.

Current Core 2 Duo-based Macs (MacBook Pro, iMac) share a chipset that -- while capable of carrying 4 GB of RAM -- can recognize and make use of only slightly more than 3 GB. This is because the currently used chipset assigns to critical system functions and components (the PCI bus, etc) a ~700 MB chunk of memory space in the 3-4 GB memory range that cannot be used by the operating system.

Note: Apple's documentation [MacBook Pro or iMac developer notes] does not specify which chipset is used in its Core 2 Duo Macs. However, the chipsets used in currently shipping MacBook Pros and iMacs are in the Intel 945 series.

In systems with less than 3 GB of RAM, the occupation of this space is trivial -- no physical RAM exists there, so the devices happily occupy an otherwise empty range. In systems with more than about 3.3 GB of RAM, a conflict arises. The Intel 945 chipset is 32-bit. A 32-bit processor/chipset can address a maximum 4 GB of RAM, so the motherboard is built to accept only 4 GB. However, all system functions have registers that occupy mapped memory space. Many of these functio! ns occupy tiny portions of space -- 4 KB for the Memory Control Hub MMIO, for instance. Some take significantly larger portions: The PCI Express Register Range occupies 256 MB. In aggregate, these items use about 700 MB of memory space -- yielding the ~3.3 GB ceiling for OS-addressable RAM.

Speculation holds that this limitation will be overcome when the Core 2 Duo (Merom) gets a chipset better suited for its 64-bit capabilities, and with a memory addressing scheme that does not require virtual space for system functions/components between 3 GB and 4 GB. This more apt chipset should show up in the first half of 2007, and holds the moniker Santa Rosa.

Santa Rosa will be the chipset for which the Core 2 Duo (Merom) was designed (the 945 chipset is better suited to the original Core Duo, but can accept the Core 2 Duo as well). It eliminates the ~3 GB memory cap, and more importantly, sports the capability to access memory in the 64-bit range, opening the doo! r for portables that can carry 8 or 16 GB of RAM (or more), power considerations aside.

According to Intel's press materials, Santa Rosa will also provide: "an improved graphics chipset, codenamed Crestline, an IEEE* 802.11n Wi–Fi adapter, codenamed Kedron, as well as Intel–optimized advanced management and security solutions. The platform will also include Intel's NAND flash–based platform accelerator, codenamed Robson, which enables much more rapid boot–up time and power savings"

Hi buddy1065, 11-5-06

in your post you said-

"Minor problem: Eject button dows not work in OEM Windows XP, but free software put an eject button in system tray so no biggie."

Can you tell me the name of this free software & perhaps, a link to the page where I can download it? Thanks.

What size screen did you get on your new MBP 2.33GHz C2D? Also, which hard drive?
Amount of RAM, plz.

I've talked to Apple online sales assistant (in the Educational pricing area) & Apple tech. support- they say that, "the 200GB 4200RPM hard drive will give excellent performance for the majority of users; the faster RPM hard drives would be required by people doing very high end graphic processing, that use data calls to & from the hard drive. This is possible due to the available rescources of the MBP C2D."
I'm thinking of getting the 200GB drive on my 17" MBP C2D.

Thanks, WL

He must be talking about boot camp as the new 1.12 beta works great and the eject button works the same in xp as it does in os x. I love the new mbook pro. It runs cooler to the touch than my macbook and is just as quiet!