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post #161 of 1054
11/3/06 at 2:05am
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Originally Posted by yolda
If you want the score posted on the main list use the correct format including driver infomation on the pic

I pointed that out several times before just regarding stability, now its battery life. Powemizer from nvidia sets the voltage to a minimum when i battery life but the VID's must be correct.

Sorry for not following protocol, just a bit excited at the moment.

9189 - nttdemented - T7200 / 1G 533 / WUXGA / Single / XTG 92.91 G2 / 90W / 600/800 / 1.24V / GTX BIOS

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post #162 of 1054
11/3/06 at 2:13am
OK - Just for us noobs (OK just for me then!!!)

2 things - Firstly thanks for the stuff so far I think everyone is well impressed, secondly:

If I grap the file 4701150.rom and open it in Nibirtor I get under voltages exact = 1V 3D, and under VID mode there is a voltage for VID 7 of 1.24V and VID 3 of 1V

So if this is the case then even if the card down clocks under throttle to 200/300 (600) then it's still pulling 1V, I'm assuming the fact there is a VID code for 1.24V is irrelevant as under the exact settings it's set to 1V.

So the whole purpose of this is to allow the card to down clock and down volt to extend the battery life under the settings selected by the Nvidia driver used.

Am I on the right track - Us noobs have to start somewhere!!!
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post #163 of 1054
11/3/06 at 2:32am
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You need to go to the voltage vid tabl editor on the top menu, then set 2 performance levels. 1 for the 3D settings at 1.24V = VID7 and other VID6= 1V then go back and open the second tab under voltage settings, then select them correctly becuase the tabs need a refresh, then go back to the first tab and do the same.

UPDATES DONE!
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post #164 of 1054
11/3/06 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by yolda
sergiop what about your Quadro? any improvements on performance? Haven seen any pic yet! :P

i got 300 more points on 3dmark03, 100 more points on 3dmark05 and same score on 3dmark06... so add those points to my sig and yeah, about 5% improvement, the good thing is that temp is lower now i dunno why, and that i can play nfs carbon perfectly...
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post #165 of 1054
11/3/06 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by yolda
sergiop what about your Quadro? any improvements on performance? Haven seen any pic yet! :P

i got 300 more points on 3dmark03, 100 more points on 3dmark05 and same score on 3dmark06... with same core and memory speeds... so add those points to my sig and yeah, about 5% improvement, the good thing is that temp is lower now i dunno why, and that i can play nfs carbon perfectly...
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post #166 of 1054
11/3/06 at 8:58am
do i have to be concerned as well with the battery issue? or since my card is a moddified 7900gtx it sud work fine for me?
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post #167 of 1054
11/3/06 at 11:47am
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Originally Posted by nissanztt90
I mean how much vid ram

I knew that but was so in rush that pasted the wrong value. funny.
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post #168 of 1054
11/3/06 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by yolda
New Warning! BATTERY LIFE AT RISK! So far every room works at 1.24V even during battery life thanks to a little mistake on the rooms VID that was never corrected, i will update the rooms to change that, but that will take days, so every that is able to do so, update their own changing the VID 6 to 1.0V so powermizer from envidia may work correctly, this is how it should look like. When you create your own room be sure that they are 64K big, to ensure that you dont flash a corrupt bios.
Within your screenshot you have four different levels of voltage - are you actually undervolting even more on 4 levels, at .8 and .9, 1.0, and 1.24, rather than using just 1.0 and 1.24? You're telling us to only have two levels, but then you have four levels in the screen shot. Is this your own idea or is that default of nvidia with their gtx? It would be good to know the difference. Yes, I'd like to save more battery life, but only if it is completely safe. Thanks... Ben
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post #169 of 1054
11/3/06 at 12:32pm
who plays games on the battery, plug it in??, and arnt they rom's? not rooms?
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post #170 of 1054
11/3/06 at 1:11pm
Hey guys, got my e1705 with 7900gs arriving sometime next week, looking forward to using the bios disc. I'm gonna stick it out with the 90w psu for now. two questions:

1. I'm only going to play games plugged in of course, but will the standard battery (53 watt, 6-cell) work with this bios? i remember with my 9300 (7800gtx) i had to change batteries and my psu out.

2. What's a good bios config, one that will give me nice numbers but is still "safe" (no such thing i know) in terms of temperature?

THANKS!
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post #171 of 1054
11/3/06 at 1:47pm
Ok, 2 questions today:

1) So the ROMs have ben updated to incorporate the voltage issue? So I need to re-flash then?

2) More importantly, I see that everyone has access to the video card control panel, ie. they can look at their clock speeds, temps etc. With mine, it only gives me the default InVidia control panel with the 4 adjustment options. I am confused as to why I can't get the one everyone else is using. I updated my drivers to the MobileForce G2 and it still doesn't give me the advanced options.

Same with the ATI tool: I can't edit any of the options, it doesn't see my video card. Can anyone help?!




Here is my latest 3DMark05 score:

9193 / KManZ / T2500 / 1 GB 533 / WUXGA / Single / X-MobileForce G2 / 90W / 615/815 / 1.24V / GTX BIOS
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post #172 of 1054
11/3/06 at 5:55pm
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Ok, 2 questions today: 1) So the ROMs have ben updated to incorporate the voltage issue? So I need to re-flash then? 2) More importantly, I see that everyone has access to the video card control panel, ie. they can look at their clock speeds, temps etc. With mine, it only gives me the default InVidia control panel with the 4 adjustment options. I am confused as to why I can't get the one everyone else is using. I updated my drivers to the MobileForce G2 and it still doesn't give me the advanced options. Same with the ATI tool: I can't edit any of the options, it doesn't see my video card. Can anyone help?!
To unlock the clock options you need to use coolbits, its a registry endtry that allows you to use those options, google it.
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Within your screenshot you have four different levels of voltage - are you actually undervolting even more on 4 levels, at .8 and .9, 1.0, and 1.24, rather than using just 1.0 and 1.24? You're telling us to only have two levels, but then you have four levels in the screen shot. Is this your own idea or is that default of nvidia with their gtx? It would be good to know the difference. Yes, I'd like to save more battery life, but only if it is completely safe. Thanks... Ben
I did 4 levels just to test what VID would recognize my card, later i set only 2 1.24V and 1V.
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1) So the ROMs have ben updated to incorporate the voltage issue? So I need to re-flash then?
yes reflash its better, even if you just use office with these ROMS you will still be using 1.24V for the video card, lowering your battery life, but if you set the VID6 = 1V then your card will downvolt itself to it every time it is not using 3D apps.
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do i have to be concerned as well with the battery issue? or since my card is a moddified 7900gtx it sud work fine for me?
Maybe, but i dont think so, since you used the same GTX roms as we did, only factory GTX cards and GS cards are safe from this battery issue. Here is my latest 3DMark05 score:
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9193 / KManZ / T2500 / 1 GB 533 / WUXGA / Single / X-MobileForce G2 / 90W / 615/815 / 1.24V / GTX BIOS
Where is the PIC to back it up?
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2. What's a good bios config, one that will give me nice numbers but is still "safe" (no such thing i know) in terms of temperature?
Start at 575c600 and then raise your memory clock until you see artifcats then when you are happy with it, raise your GPU clock.
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post #173 of 1054
11/3/06 at 6:03pm
Yolda, could you add to your initial post of this thread instructions on where and how to set the voltage so that the card runs properly (1 volt) in 2D apps? I am assuming all we need to change is vid 6 = 1 volt? That way users will still have 1.24 volts during gaming, and 1 volt during 2D apps? I am not sure which program to use to set voltages, and where the option is in that program. Thanks again! You have been a huge help on this one.
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post #174 of 1054
11/3/06 at 6:48pm
Question: If we undervolt the defaut voltage for, let's say, 2D, will it actually work at that voltage? As you can see there are many options avalible through the bios editor...but is the hardware restricted to only work at certain voltages?
Ben
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post #175 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:00pm
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Originally Posted by yolda

Where is the PIC to back it up?

My bad!
LL
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post #176 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:00pm
Thread Starter 
Here is how you change the voltage Using Nibitor, to allow powermizer to work corectly and save battery life during 2D work(desktop, office, Inernet browsing, blah blah)

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post #177 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:07pm
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My bad!
Driver information and detailed results are missing... lol i am a pain in the ass i know lol.
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post #178 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:10pm
Undervolting 2D for longer battery life:

Yolda, and I suppose everyone else:

I've just changed all my vid6 from 1v to .85v, then changed the boot clocks from 200/350 to 100/100, then changed the throttle clock from 200/300 to 100/100.

I figure the system will be always running at 100/100 and .85v unless I go 3d, which gets the 1.24v and 575/700 I have it set at.

Currently I have longer battery life and my card is at a nice cool 55 degrees (gpu).

I don't think I'll want to go down to .8v, but I'm very happy at .85v

Ben
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post #179 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by yolda
Driver information and detailed results are missing... lol i am a pain in the ass i know lol.

its all good dude


9193 / KManZ / T2500 / 1 GB 533 / WUXGA / Single / X-MobileForce G2 / 90W / 615/815 / 1.24V / GTX BIOS
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post #180 of 1054
11/3/06 at 7:35pm
Sorry guys but thats definitely wrong - i already said this in 2 other bios moding threads and here again.

Just read the official guide at www.mvktech.net:
Voltage Table Entries: Here you can edit the entries of the voltage table, or even add new entries if you see there is enough space for them. An entry consist of a label eg. "1.3V" as identifier for the driver and the actual VID eg. "03" which is set to the voltage regulator. You must note that the voltage label is not responsible for the output voltage, it is only used by the driver to select correct VID.

I know that because i helped peter-pan to do the 7800 go voltage-bios-mod in a German forum and of course i first read the nibitor manual

Bye

Here is the old thread where i tried to explain it:
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread156736-2.html
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