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Is it worth waiting for Santa Rosa processor?

post #1 of 18
11/1/06 at 7:15pm
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I want to know if it is worth waiting for the San Rosa platform? I am hoping on purchasing a new laptop in February 2007. Santa Rosa is supposed be coming out in Q2 2007. I am leaning towards either Dell, Asus or Alienware. Alienware being the front runner right now so my budget will be tight. I am assuming when Santa Rosa comes out prices for the processor will be higher than current prices for memron.

Is it worth waiting for Santa Rosa w/ a more expensive processor and more expensive 800MHz memory or is memron w/ 667MHz memory still very good?

I am not looking for top of the line when I buy my laptop just good performance for office work and gaming. Will there be a significant performance upgrade in wither speed, battery life, etc that would justify the wait? Or will the Santa ROsa platform only be for those who demand the best of the best?

Thanks
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post #2 of 18
11/1/06 at 11:13pm
Santa Rosa will be much more than just a bus speed upgrade, it should perform much better with Vista in every category. There are several other neat tech's comming up in early '07 too. AMD no doubt will be getting on the ball soon too. It's still too early to tell exactly what's going to be attractive on the market then.

Depending on what kind of gaming you will want to do, it would probably be worth waiting. Tech is constantly evolving and prices are always falling. If nothing else, I'd at least wait for the mobile DX10 GPU's to come out before buying (which should be a few months before Santa Rosa).
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post #3 of 18
11/1/06 at 11:25pm
buy when you need to. there is always the next best thing around the corner.
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post #4 of 18
11/1/06 at 11:35pm
im going to laugh when amd's quad core blows intel away and dominates for 2+ years before intel releases something that will win for only 6-8 months. Just like the transition phase which is going on now. Jump on the sinking intel boat everyone

edit: that or amd has just been sitting around doing nothing for so long. which i doubt.
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post #5 of 18
11/2/06 at 1:30am
amd has been kinda busy with ati lately (been to ati.com in the last week or so?) but yeah...nothing to expect from those guys in the cpu world till quadcore, nice hardware, but sorta useless since even now when dual core is the norm, most apps still dont take advantage of it, would hate to see how long it will take for quad-core support...also dont you need vista ultimate to support anything more than 2 cpus / dual core anyway?
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post #6 of 18
11/2/06 at 2:21am
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Originally Posted by abf
amd has been kinda busy with ati lately (been to ati.com in the last week or so?) but yeah...nothing to expect from those guys in the cpu world till quadcore, nice hardware, but sorta useless since even now when dual core is the norm, most apps still dont take advantage of it, would hate to see how long it will take for quad-core support...also dont you need vista ultimate to support anything more than 2 cpus / dual core anyway?

Vista Home Basic supports multi core, as long as they are on a single CPU. For multi processors you need Vista Business, Enterprise or Ultimate.
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post #7 of 18
11/2/06 at 4:31pm
The DX10 GPU is the key since laptops generally can't upgrade video. If DX10 games perform as poorly on DX9 hardware as FSX does there could be issues. But, it will take years for the installed base to deploy enough DX10 cards for game makers to give up on DX9.
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post #8 of 18
11/2/06 at 8:13pm
Just met with our Intel rep today, he brought in lunch and a presentation for us, they have a quad core in the advanced stages of design right now, in fact they are set for release before their competitors. I would not count on any one vendor to be taking over the market now, or in the future. Hardware vendors are very aware of what their competition is up to.
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post #9 of 18
11/3/06 at 4:54pm
Looks like Intel has already released the quad core according to toms hardware.
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post #10 of 18
11/4/06 at 7:50am
okay when do you rekon they will become mainstream? early next year? do you rekon they will coincide with the release of DX10 cards in laptops? I'm planning on getting a DTR and want the most futureproof it can be.

Mike Check
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post #11 of 18
11/4/06 at 10:45am
If you value these kind of improvements:

Santa Rosa
- FSB 667->800 (performance improves, nice)
- FSB Downclockable 800->400 (power efficiency, nice)
- DX10 Crestline chipset (nice)
- Encached Sleep States (power efficiency)
- WiFi 802.11n (Faster WLAN, very nice)
- Integ. Nokia 3G (maybe EDGE/GPRS support, ultra nice)
- Flash Accelerator (0.4W less power drain from HDD, faster boot, wakeup andmultithread, nice)

+ BluRay-R drive
+ DX10 GPU, though there isnt any info on DX10 mobile GPUs yet.

, you should wait.
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post #12 of 18
11/4/06 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by jiopi
If you value these kind of improvements:

Santa Rosa
- FSB 667->800 (performance improves, nice)
- FSB Downclockable 800->400 (power efficiency, nice)
- DX10 Crestline chipset (nice)
- Encached Sleep States (power efficiency)
- WiFi 802.11n (Faster WLAN, very nice)
- Integ. Nokia 3G (maybe EDGE/GPRS support, ultra nice)
- Flash Accelerator (0.4W less power drain from HDD, faster boot, wakeup andmultithread, nice)

+ BluRay-R drive
+ DX10 GPU, though there isnt any info on DX10 mobile GPUs yet.

, you should wait.

Replace the blu-ray drive with hd-dvd and that is EXACTLY the way I see it.

Adam
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post #13 of 18
11/6/06 at 1:24am
soooooo any idea as to when they'll be avaliable? early next year? VERY early next year *hopes like nothing else*

Mike Check
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post #14 of 18
11/7/06 at 2:03pm
I don't foresee Santa Rosa in the marketplace until at least June/July of '07
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post #15 of 18
11/7/06 at 8:33pm
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/07/in...oadmap_update/
"However, the updated (Santa Rosa) Meroms will enter the production ramp with about 5% in Q1 and reach 13% in Q2 and 25% in Q3, and assume the role of the flagship processors."

So maybe we see SantaRosa notebooks already in Q1 2007.
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post #16 of 18
11/7/06 at 9:14pm
Eww wireless N standard? I hope it dosent suck nearly as bad as it does now
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post #17 of 18
11/8/06 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by Goran
Eww wireless N standard? I hope it dosent suck nearly as bad as it does now
Microsoft promises that it will work perfectly then, nevertheless it will support also a/b/g so there isnt really a problem there...
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post #18 of 18
11/8/06 at 11:21am
I waiting to get that as well, as i though about, is worth it. But again i think i going for AMD platform, Intergrated sound system is like sound blaster. m7700 desktop replacement laptop. 5.5KG will crush my back when going on a long vacation by foot x.x
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