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post #1 of 18
11/5/06 at 1:53am
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sorry i've been so full of questions lately! i'm just so amazed at what this laptop can do. i've got the above card in my e1705. i was using the nvidia display manager (right clicked on desktop, then chose nvidia control panel) and was looking at the gpu temp monitor. my question is this: i've noticed some of the temps that some people are lisiting on the site, and they all seem to be in Celsius. what should my video card roughly average? i'm in the 72-75 C range without running any games, just browsing really. is this pretty normal? the program says it will begin to cool off the card by slowing it down at 102C, i was just wanting some average figures. thanks ahead of time!
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post #2 of 18
11/5/06 at 3:04am
Yeah, that is more or less normal. The stock temperatures are really high, as the fan is programmed to not come on at lower temperatures in an effort to maximize battery life. You'd be better off to use a program such as I8kfanGUI to choose your own temperatures. IMO, your notebook will be much happier if you set the idle temperatures to be somewhere in the 40 - 60C range. Whatever you do, you don't want your card to get into the 90's very often or to ever exceed 100C, unless you want to flirt with card damage. Heavy gaming may take you into the 80C range, that's OK, but it should also be the max.
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post #3 of 18
11/5/06 at 3:24am
What's your room temperature?

If your room temp is high plus you are not using any fan control software then it's still within normal range.
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post #4 of 18
11/5/06 at 3:41am
I wouldnt say normal at all...you should install i8kfangui and set it to keep the card cooler...at idle my temps around 50-54 depending on ambient temps..it maxes out around 90 playing FEAR...

That thing you see regarding 102C is a GPU BIOS feature that starts to shut the card down if it ever gets that hot...which it really shouldnt..

DEFINATELY install i8kfangui...do a search, you will see everyone uses it and it really helps.
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post #5 of 18
11/5/06 at 4:30am
I was only getting to the high 70's after running things like 3DMark 2k6.
The average temp was around 55degC.

If you do run Ik8fangui add 8degC to what it says as it's out that far.
And if you run IK9fangui then add 4degC as this is also not 100% accurate.

I get varying degrees of success with these 2 Fan monitors as they are not meant for Dual Core CPU's
The force fans to full speed sometimes stops the fans for about a second and then starts them again for about 10secs.
Not all the features work as they should.

But to keep the lappy cool it's still a very good tool.
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post #6 of 18
11/5/06 at 3:08pm
72C-75C is well above average for that card my friend. I have the same card, only flashed with the GTX BIOS. Stock clocks on a GS are 375/500(1000DDR). Mine runs at 600/800(1600DDR). MAX temps I have managed to muster with the overclock are around 80C-82C. So, with that in mind, your system has an issue. When was the last time you took the air can out and cleaned your heatsink fins? This is more than likely the source of your issues. Take a look at the I8KFanGUI program. What RPM's does your GPU fan run at when forced to high speed? Normal is from 3900-4000RPM's... if any higher than that, its likely that your fins are getting plugged up - thus restricting airflow.

Anyway, on a normal flat surface with fans maxed out on high, you should average about 55C. I have used Arctic Silver on my GPU, and have my idle temps around 44C-47C with an ambient room temperature of 72F. Clean them fans!
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post #7 of 18
11/5/06 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by pieter
I was only getting to the high 70's after running things like 3DMark 2k6.
The average temp was around 55degC.

If you do run Ik8fangui add 8degC to what it says as it's out that far.
And if you run IK9fangui then add 4degC as this is also not 100% accurate.

I get varying degrees of success with these 2 Fan monitors as they are not meant for Dual Core CPU's
The force fans to full speed sometimes stops the fans for about a second and then starts them again for about 10secs.
Not all the features work as they should.

But to keep the lappy cool it's still a very good tool.

Hey Pieter, I think I have the solution for you regarding the fans fluctuating at full speed. I too had the exact same problem, the fans would pulse on and off and therefore the temperature would climb, it was very frustrating. Here's what worked for me: open Ik8fangui, open options, go to the display options tab, under 'sensor updates' there are 3 different settings (internal sensor reading, fan setting enforcement, and hard drive temp reading), I set the internal sensor reading to 3 seconds, the fan setting enforcement to 10msec (original is 200msec). When the fan setting is at 200msec, the bios seems to have enough time to interrupt the enforcement and therefore the pulsing occurs. When it is set at 10msec, the I8kfangui program overrides the bios and doesn't give it a chance to interrupt causing the fans to pulse. I have a 9400 with a core 2 duo t7400 and with these settings I8kfangui works great! I use automatic temp control now and have my gpu fans always on slow and on fast once I get to 50. My idle is 45 deg. Hope this helps! Let me know if it works for you.

Ryan
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post #8 of 18
11/5/06 at 4:24pm
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ok, i downloaded the latest Ik8fangui . before i install it, does anyone know if there is a way to unistall in case something goes wrong? and i should let the card at idle stay around 55C?
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post #9 of 18
11/5/06 at 6:30pm
Yes, you can uninstall it quite easily. And no, it shouldn't mess anything up. Once you start it up, you will see the different ways in which you can specify fan speeds. The most dynamic is when you set different temperature thresholds and correlate them with higher fan speeds.

And, yes, 50C is a good temp to aim for. If you start noticing that your fans are on all the time, raise that a bit.

Regards,

zakaluka2.
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post #10 of 18
11/5/06 at 7:16pm
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ok, thanks for all the information guys! i've installed the program, seems to be keeping the temp right at 46C (about 54-55 according to the nvidia program). i was hoping somone could tell me if i set the fans up right though, or somewhat right, here are the settings i've used:

enable GPU temp control

1. 47C 45C slow slow
2. 57C 47C slow slow
3. 67C 57C slow slow
4. 77C 66C fast slow

i've enabled the first and second fan. does this seem like its set up right? thanks for the help!
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post #11 of 18
11/5/06 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by cobra302
ok, thanks for all the information guys! i've installed the program, seems to be keeping the temp right at 46C (about 54-55 according to the nvidia program). i was hoping somone could tell me if i set the fans up right though, or somewhat right, here are the settings i've used: enable GPU temp control 1. 47C 45C slow slow 2. 57C 47C slow slow 3. 67C 57C slow slow 4. 77C 66C fast slow i've enabled the first and second fan. does this seem like its set up right? thanks for the help!
Here is the way I set it up and it seems to work quite well. First of all for the temp difference, go to options in fangui, click the advanced tab, where it says gpu temp offset, type '8'. This will make fangui give you an accurate reading as it corrects the 8 degree difference. Here's how I set up my fans (they are basically always on but they are so quiet you can't even really notice): CPU Enable first fan 1. 30c 20c off 2. 50c 30c slow 3. 60c 50c fast 4. 75c 60c fast GPU Enable second fan 1. 50c 40c slow 2. 55c 50c fast 3. 70c 55c fast 4. 85c 70c fast Also, make sure you set the fan enforcement setting to around 10msec as I mentioned a few posts ago. I am quite happy with this setup, right now my cpu is at 33c and my gpu is at 50c. If anyone else has any other ideas please let us know. Let me know if you have any further questions, I will try to help. Oh ya, by the way, the way my fans are enabled means that they are independently controlled by the cpu and gpu temps. Therefore if the cpu heats up the fan kicks on higher and same for gpu. I believe you mentioned you enabled both for gpu. Ryan
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post #12 of 18
11/5/06 at 11:28pm
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i noticed if i only enable one fan for the gpu, the temp rises past where the fan should kick in. will it hurt any to keep both fans working? i've got is set so that there is a 3 C difference in the fan speed intially 55-53C. this way the fan isnt on all the time. i applied the rest though, thanks a bunch!
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post #13 of 18
11/6/06 at 12:12am
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Originally Posted by ryan9400
Hey Pieter, I think I have the solution for you regarding the fans fluctuating at full speed. I too had the exact same problem, the fans would pulse on and off and therefore the temperature would climb, it was very frustrating. Here's what worked for me: open Ik8fangui, open options, go to the display options tab, under 'sensor updates' there are 3 different settings (internal sensor reading, fan setting enforcement, and hard drive temp reading), I set the internal sensor reading to 3 seconds, the fan setting enforcement to 10msec (original is 200msec). When the fan setting is at 200msec, the bios seems to have enough time to interrupt the enforcement and therefore the pulsing occurs. When it is set at 10msec, the I8kfangui program overrides the bios and doesn't give it a chance to interrupt causing the fans to pulse. I have a 9400 with a core 2 duo t7400 and with these settings I8kfangui works great! I use automatic temp control now and have my gpu fans always on slow and on fast once I get to 50. My idle is 45 deg. Hope this helps! Let me know if it works for you.

Ryan
Well it hasn't happened yet, but it only started with higher CPU temps.
Gave 3DMark 2k6 a trial run and all is well.

cheers for the pointer must try it on IK9fangui as I like this better.
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post #14 of 18
11/6/06 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by pieter
Well it hasn't happened yet, but it only started with higher CPU temps.
Gave 3DMark 2k6 a trial run and all is well.

cheers for the pointer must try it on IK9fangui as I like this better.
I just took at look at i9kfangui's page. I saw that 2.3RC1 came out a little while ago. Any idea if this supports dual core laptops (as per your sig)? I know that the 2.2 series doesn't.

Regards,

zakaluka2.
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post #15 of 18
11/6/06 at 6:27am
I could swore I saw this on notebook review also. but hey if you drive a 93 cobra with a 5 liter V8 then your good in my book.
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post #16 of 18
11/6/06 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by zakaluka2
I just took at look at i9kfangui's page. I saw that 2.3RC1 came out a little while ago. Any idea if this supports dual core laptops (as per your sig)? I know that the 2.2 series doesn't.

Regards,

zakaluka2.
Nope no Dual Core support in 2.3RC1
I'm running it now.
Also issues with sensor probing as it looses connection with the sensors after awhile. (one by one)
But I use it to keep the fans at full speed and keeps a temp on my task bar to keep an eye on.

Pity the idea is great but needs a lot more work to fix all the bugs and get dual core support.
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post #17 of 18
11/6/06 at 9:52pm
Why are you guys so determined to use i9kfangui? I8k works fine. I'm using I8k for my core 2 duo 7400 without any problems, what features are you thinking you will have if you use I9k? Dual core is 2 processors on one chip so as far as I know if you are getting a temp reading from the chip, what more could you be wanting? Am I missing something?

Hey cobra 302 in response to your quote I don't think it would hurt to keep both fans running, I suppose the one downside is eventually the fans might wear out a little bit faster but who cares if you have to replace them someday, it would only be at a minimal cost. If you are happy with how it works then go for it:
i noticed if i only enable one fan for the gpu, the temp rises past where the fan should kick in. will it hurt any to keep both fans working? i've got is set so that there is a 3 C difference in the fan speed intially 55-53C. this way the fan isnt on all the time. i applied the rest though, thanks a bunch!

Ryan
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post #18 of 18
11/7/06 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by ryan9400
Why are you guys so determined to use i9kfangui? I8k works fine. I'm using I8k for my core 2 duo 7400 without any problems, what features are you thinking you will have if you use I9k? Dual core is 2 processors on one chip so as far as I know if you are getting a temp reading from the chip, what more could you be wanting? Am I missing something?

Hey cobra 302 in response to your quote I don't think it would hurt to keep both fans running, I suppose the one downside is eventually the fans might wear out a little bit faster but who cares if you have to replace them someday, it would only be at a minimal cost. If you are happy with how it works then go for it:
i noticed if i only enable one fan for the gpu, the temp rises past where the fan should kick in. will it hurt any to keep both fans working? i've got is set so that there is a 3 C difference in the fan speed intially 55-53C. this way the fan isnt on all the time. i applied the rest though, thanks a bunch!

Ryan
IK8 doesn't work with the 'Auto' settings for me
It seems to always be fighting with the BIOS over the fan control
The temps go into the different zones but the fans don't come on as set by IK8, it uses the BIOS settings.
The CPU speed only reads the maximum speed capable not current.
The CPU load I think only reads 1 CPU not an average of both cores.

I only use it for temp viewing and setting both fans to max.
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