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M1710 Go 7950 GTX HDCP Support?

post #1 of 17
11/6/06 at 1:37am
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Does the Nvidia Go 7950 GTX in the m1710 have HDCP support?

Will I be able to play full resolution HDCP protectected content once I upgrade the optical drive to an hd-dvd or blue-ray drive?

Thanks, have not been able to find answer.
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post #2 of 17
11/6/06 at 4:00am
To the best of my knowledge, no dell laptops are shipping with HDMI connectors, but rather with DVI. Since content HDCP requires the use of HDMI for signal transmission, I'd say that it wouldn't work...

In fact, as I understand things, no laptop should be able to be fully HDCP compliant since they all use non-secure LVDS for connection to the attached LCD. Theoretically, you could rip full resolution, uncompressed digital video straight out of the on-board LCD connector even if the laptop had HDMI connectors. So far the relevant standards bodies are overlooking this loophole however, since it would preclude all mobile devices for the indefinite future.
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post #3 of 17
11/6/06 at 3:41pm
This may be related to your topic, or it may be me just being a dumb noob. I just got my M1710 with 7950 GTX on Friday. Last night I tried to play a few DVDs through MediaDirect and they wouldn't play. Gave me a message saying that it was Licensed media and could not be played through MediaDirect. There was something in the owners manual to this effect as well. They work fine when I boot up XP and play them through that.

I had read earlier that the 7950 GTX had full HDCP support and assumed it was related to this. Kind of eliminates the usefullness of MediaDirect though if ya ask me.

Sorry if this has already been discussed, I haven't seen anything posted on it yet.
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post #4 of 17
11/6/06 at 6:11pm
Yes, the M1710 has HDCP it is required by all DVI and HDMI devices. Anything playing thru analog (component video, s-vide, vga) will not play at higher resolutions and you will get a warning in the playback software.

Media direct is a totally different animal.

Zyb
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post #5 of 17
11/7/06 at 10:51pm
The motherboard must also provide HDCP support in-order for the video card to transfer data to the rear video connectors. This feature will not be added until the next Intel mobile platform (Intel 3 Series) comes out. Intel's ICH7 and ICH8 southbridges do not support HDCP transit, but ICH9 southbridge in the next iteration will.

This is why when Toshiba came out with the "first" HD-DVD laptop, it was the PowerDVD software offering the only content protection. People will be jumping all over those first gen HD-DVD players once more systems start supporting them, because you can imagine the possibilities of having an HD-DVD drive with no hardware content protection built-in. =)
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post #6 of 17
11/8/06 at 12:16am
Actually HDCP is intergrated in to the video card. The 7950 has support for HDCP. The rear video connector it a pass thru from the video card. The next intel chip set will add HDCP for the Intel intergrate video cards.

Some older video card had HDCP support but did not have the key install on them to make fully functional, so the software has to have the key to control the DVI full res out put.

Zyb
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post #7 of 17
11/8/06 at 12:20am
HDCP does not require HDMI only. It will work with DVI also. My 61 inch DLP only has DVI and I can play DVD movies just fine!!!
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post #8 of 17
11/8/06 at 3:38am
HDCP is just software isn't it? I think the latest nvidia driver adds hdcp support to all 7 series cards. it's the desktop driver but of course it can be modified for laptops.. so the 7900gtx go should have support also id think
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post #9 of 17
11/8/06 at 12:20pm
So I'm sitting here with a sealed _internal_Sony blu-ray drive and an external enclosure. On my M90, can anyone tell me if I'll be able to (a) backup private HD videos and/or data to a blu-ray disk, (b) watch blu-ray movies on the laptop screen.

Thanks==Alex
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post #10 of 17
11/9/06 at 3:50am
HDCP is hardware to hardware encrypt/decrypt between the output device and HDTV, the 7 Series card have the basic functions built-in but it is not enabled on earlier card. HDCP require that the hardware on both ends have special vendor key to be programed in them to allow the video to play to a HDTV. The key are royalty based(from what I understand) so many vendor never put them in to the cards. There are no keys required to play blueray disc to the built-in LCD on a computer. You will need a a video driver that supports blueray for it to work. The other problem is the bandwitdh required to play Blueray/HD-DVD is huge. May card just can handle the amount data that has to be passed to play the movies (38mbit I think). The 7900 series should be able to handle it.

As far a copying them no the blue ray video disc are around 25 gig and the blueray-r disc are 17gig max I think. Plus the media is expensive right now.

Note: not everything I just typed may be 100% accurate I going by things i have been told and read.



Zyb
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post #11 of 17
11/9/06 at 5:01am
Zyb,

Thanks for answering that, I might give it a try then and install it instead of selling the drive. I think my M90 setup should be OK for performance.

I wasn't after copying movies, I was referring to backing up my own private HD videos.

Alex
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post #12 of 17
11/9/06 at 10:45am
oh, sorry I misunderstood what you meant . Yes you can put your own HD stuff on the disk no problem.

Zyb
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post #13 of 17
12/20/06 at 11:09am
If I get a hold of a Toshiba notebook HD-DVD drive, from a Toshiba notebook and say I put it in a E1710, or XPS2 and use the supplies special WinDVD or PowerDVD will it work, or has someone already tried this?
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post #14 of 17
12/20/06 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by roachxp
If I get a hold of a Toshiba notebook HD-DVD drive, from a Toshiba notebook and say I put it in a E1710, or XPS2 and use the supplies special WinDVD or PowerDVD will it work, or has someone already tried this?

interesting, wonder how expensive that would be!

couldn't find any OEMs on google.
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post #15 of 17
1/4/07 at 10:00pm
The only difference between DVI and HDMI is that the DVI does not carry sound where the other caries both video and sound. You can get a DVI to HDMI adapter if you look around some websites but you will still have to run audio seperate
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post #16 of 17
1/5/07 at 1:51am
HDCP is hardware based, so a simple firmware upgrade will not make a card HDCP compatible, and from what Ive read, the 7950 is the only unit that has the chip on the unit itself, and just to clarify, HDCP is strictly encryption on BLU RAY and HD DVD ONLY!! DVD does not have anything to do with this, so DVDs will play just fine no matter what
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post #17 of 17
1/5/07 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by dg5032
HDCP is strictly encryption on BLU RAY and HD DVD ONLY!! DVD does not have anything to do with this, so DVDs will play just fine no matter what

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Originally Posted by zyb
HDCP is hardware to hardware encrypt/decrypt between the output device and HDTV, the 7 Series card have the basic functions built-in but it is not enabled on earlier card. HDCP require that the hardware on both ends have special vendor key to be programed in them to allow the video to play to a HDTV.


Pretty much sums it up.
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