SAGER 8790 pricing
The Sager 8790 in all its glory =). A 17" wide screen P4 laptop that also supports the Extreme edition and Prescott processors. Other features and options include:
Core Logic
Intel® 865PE chipset + ICH5
Memory
Dual Channel DDR 266/333/400 (2 DIMM required for Dual channel mode)
256MB 400MHz DDR SDRAM Expandable to 2048MB
512KB / 1024KB On-die L2 Cache
Bios
4MB Flash ROM BIOS
Disk Storage
- Hard Disk Drive
- Built-in 7-in-1 Card Reader
Display
17” WXGA TFT 1440x900
256MB DDR Video Memory
AGP 8X
ATi Mobility™ Radeon™ 9700 (M11)
Dual-View Display Capability
CRT Resolution up to 2048x1536x16M
Built-in TV-Tuner with Multi-Function Remote
DVD or CD-ROM Drive
Detachable 24X CD-ROM
Interchangeable with 8X DVD-ROM, 24X CD-R/10X CD-RW, DVD/CD-RW, DVD-R/RW Combo drive
ATAPI Interface
Audio System
AC’97 2.2 compliant interface
Built-in 6ch output Sound System (for 6 external speakers without Ext. decoder)
S/PDIF Digital output(5.1 CH) for DVD content
1 Built-in Microphone
4 Built-in Speakers
PCMCIA Slot
PCMCIA 3.0 Standard Compliant
1 Type II PCMCIA Slot
Pointing Device
Integrated Touchpad With Scroll Up/Down key
Keyboard
Full Sized Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
Windows 95 2 Hot keys
Integrated with Hot Keys for LCD Brightness, Suspend, Panel/CRT Display
3 Hot Keys for E-Mail, Web Browser. And AP-Key
Interface
Infrared Communication, FIR, SIR and ASK Compliant
1 16c550 Compatible Serial Port
1 Parallel Port, with ECP/EPP Support
1 External Keyboard Port
1 DVI Port
3 USB 2.0 Ports
3 Audio Jacks
1 RJ-11 Modem
1 IEEE 1394 Fire Wire (4pin)
1 S-video TV-Out
1 S-video Video-in
Power System
1 Lithium-Ion Battery
Full Range Auto-Switching 100V/240V AC Adapter
Power Management
System Management Mode (SMM)
Suspend to HDD / DRAM
Full features of SMI Power Management, Doze, Sleep, Suspend/Resume Mode
Physical Characteristic
15.4 “ (W) x 11” (D) x 1.65” (H)
8.6 lbs Without Battery
Standard Options
Enhanced built-in Digital Camera
Internal 802.11g Wireless LAN mini-PCI interface
Internal Bluetooth Module mini-USB interface
The LCD is the same 17" widescreen used in the 4760, 4780, apple powerbook, and probably all the other 17" LCDs you've seen.
Far Cry... if you don't know what I'm talking about you better check out these graphics. We're all looking forward to the release of this game.
Lion King 1 1/2 showing the angle view.
UT2K4 with a map we've all had branded into our heads. We don't have a huge choice considering they only released 1 map of each gameplay type in the demo
From what we know- Specs of the LCD:
PHILIPS LP171W01
Active Area[mm] 367.2 x 229.5
Outline Dimension[mm] 382.2 x 244.5
Thickness[mm] 6.2(typ.)
Resolution 1440 x RGB x 900
Aspect Ratio 16:10
Pixel Pitch[mm] 0.255 x 0.255
Number of Colors 262,144 (6bit)
Luminance[cd/§³] 160(typ.5p)
Power Consumption[W] 1.68+4.5(typ.)
Weight[g] 740(typ.)
Contrast Ratio 300:1
Interface LVDS 2 Port
Viewing Angel[¢ª,U/D/L/R] 45/45/60/60
Response Time[ms] 25(typ.)
Accessories this demo model came with:
A closer view...
It comes in slightly taller than the 4780 as you can see in this pic:
Right side with the subwoofer module installed.
Right side with the TV Tuner installed. The unit comes with an adapter you simply plug into the side and you can screw your coax cable into the side for cable TV. The remote control will allow regular TV watching from a distance.
To swap these two modules it requires 2 screws to be removed and replaced and just a simple connector:
One connector is for the TV Tuner, the other for the Subwoofer. Whichever device you're not using, you just tuck away the other connector... or if you're using the 12 Cell battery, just tuck them both away.
Above you see all four modules that go into this bay. The 8 cell battery leaves room for either the TV Tuner or the subwoofer, the larger 12 cell battery take the room of the whole bay.
The cooling system appears to be built for whatever Intel can throw at it. With a slight volume increase over the other Sagers, it move much more air. The palm rest stays much cooler than the 4780 which we've heard a few complaints over.
Here's a couple of cam shots:
@ the store showing off half of our laptop display through the LCD cam.
Some of the guys that took advantage of me keeping the store open late to write this review. Are they helping on the review? Nope, gaming.
Battery testing
Right out of the box after a full charge, we tested DVD playback at a moderate volume and with the 12 cell battery (6600mah) we ran for 1 hour and 32 minutes.
With the 8 cell battery (4800mah) and the subwoofer, the system ran for 1 hour and 10 minutes. This was without power cycling or any special battery saving settings.
Other benchmarking
All settings were out of the box default settings on an 8790 with the 3.4GHZ Northwood processor, 1024MB dual channel DDR RAM, and 60GB 7200rpm hard drive in RAID 0 =).
The video card in the 8790 (ATI 9700 256MB RAM) comes clocked @ 415/280.
The 4780 we compared it to has a 60GB 7200rpm hard drive, ATI 9600PRO Turbo, 1024MB DDR RAM, and a 3.2GHZ Northwood processor.
UT2K3
800 X 600 Flyby
4780 185
8790 207
800 X 600 Botmatch
4780 73
8790 80
1024 X 768 Flyby
4780 128
8790 146
1024 X 768 Botmatch
4780 71
8790 79
1600 X 1200 Flyby
4780 55
8790 62
1600 X 1200 Botmatch
4780 43
8790 50
X2 The Threat ave FPS benchmark
4780 62FPS
8790 71FPS
GunMetal Benchmark 1
LOW/AVE/HIGH
4780
9.28/14.67/50.25
8790
10.05/16.77/61.08
Aquamark 3
4780 23,025
8790 27,102
All settings on Slipnter Cell were set to max (high/high/very high)
Splinter Cell 1024X768 ave FPS
4780 32.7
8790 37.3
Splinter Cell 1280X1024 ave FPS
4780 25.7
8790 29.4
Splinter Cell 1600X1200 ave FPS
4780 20.7
8790 23.5
Oh, and for you 3DMARKers since I know you'll ask and not let it go =), here's the #'s:
3DMARK01 SE- 11,826
3DMARK03 (340 patch)- 3,381
Sandra 2004 CPU ALU
4780 9884
8790 10315
Sandra 2004 CPU FPU
4780 3991
8790 4185
Sandra 2004 CPU SSE
4780 6952
8790 7458
Sandra 2004 Multi-Media Integer
4780 24405
8790 25774
Sandra 2004 CPU Multi-Media Float
4780 35275
8790 37568
Sandra 2004 Memory Bandwidth
4780 2767/2768
8790 4277/4315
As for what this system is doing right now, it's running a UT2K4 demo server with a person gaming on it and 5 others remoted into it gaming... I'm going to be #7 in a little bit
Over all I'm very happy with what I see so far and yes it's my system of choice. Where do I expect to hear complaints? Fan noise, weight, and battery life... exactly where you'd expect in a desktop replacement.
SAGER 8790 pricing
I'll try to add more when I can.
The Sager 8790 in all its glory =). A 17" wide screen P4 laptop that also supports the Extreme edition and Prescott processors. Other features and options include:
Core Logic
Intel® 865PE chipset + ICH5
Memory
Dual Channel DDR 266/333/400 (2 DIMM required for Dual channel mode)
256MB 400MHz DDR SDRAM Expandable to 2048MB
512KB / 1024KB On-die L2 Cache
Bios
4MB Flash ROM BIOS
Disk Storage
- Hard Disk Drive
- PCI Local Bus Interface
- 2 Detachable 2.5” 9.5mm Hard Disk Drive
- Supports Ultra DMA HDD for High Speed Access
- Built-in 7-in-1 Card Reader
Display
17” WXGA TFT 1440x900
256MB DDR Video Memory
AGP 8X
ATi Mobility™ Radeon™ 9700 (M11)
Dual-View Display Capability
CRT Resolution up to 2048x1536x16M
Built-in TV-Tuner with Multi-Function Remote
DVD or CD-ROM Drive
Detachable 24X CD-ROM
Interchangeable with 8X DVD-ROM, 24X CD-R/10X CD-RW, DVD/CD-RW, DVD-R/RW Combo drive
ATAPI Interface
Audio System
AC’97 2.2 compliant interface
Built-in 6ch output Sound System (for 6 external speakers without Ext. decoder)
S/PDIF Digital output(5.1 CH) for DVD content
1 Built-in Microphone
4 Built-in Speakers
PCMCIA Slot
PCMCIA 3.0 Standard Compliant
1 Type II PCMCIA Slot
Pointing Device
Integrated Touchpad With Scroll Up/Down key
Keyboard
Full Sized Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
Windows 95 2 Hot keys
Integrated with Hot Keys for LCD Brightness, Suspend, Panel/CRT Display
3 Hot Keys for E-Mail, Web Browser. And AP-Key
Interface
Infrared Communication, FIR, SIR and ASK Compliant
1 16c550 Compatible Serial Port
1 Parallel Port, with ECP/EPP Support
1 External Keyboard Port
1 DVI Port
3 USB 2.0 Ports
3 Audio Jacks
- Mic-in & S/PDIF-out or Center & Sub
- Line-in or Real Left & Right
- Front Left & Right
1 RJ-11 Modem
1 IEEE 1394 Fire Wire (4pin)
1 S-video TV-Out
1 S-video Video-in
Power System
1 Lithium-Ion Battery
Full Range Auto-Switching 100V/240V AC Adapter
Power Management
System Management Mode (SMM)
Suspend to HDD / DRAM
Full features of SMI Power Management, Doze, Sleep, Suspend/Resume Mode
Physical Characteristic
15.4 “ (W) x 11” (D) x 1.65” (H)
8.6 lbs Without Battery
Standard Options
Enhanced built-in Digital Camera
Internal 802.11g Wireless LAN mini-PCI interface
Internal Bluetooth Module mini-USB interface
The LCD is the same 17" widescreen used in the 4760, 4780, apple powerbook, and probably all the other 17" LCDs you've seen.
Far Cry... if you don't know what I'm talking about you better check out these graphics. We're all looking forward to the release of this game.
Lion King 1 1/2 showing the angle view.
UT2K4 with a map we've all had branded into our heads. We don't have a huge choice considering they only released 1 map of each gameplay type in the demo
From what we know- Specs of the LCD:
PHILIPS LP171W01
Active Area[mm] 367.2 x 229.5
Outline Dimension[mm] 382.2 x 244.5
Thickness[mm] 6.2(typ.)
Resolution 1440 x RGB x 900
Aspect Ratio 16:10
Pixel Pitch[mm] 0.255 x 0.255
Number of Colors 262,144 (6bit)
Luminance[cd/§³] 160(typ.5p)
Power Consumption[W] 1.68+4.5(typ.)
Weight[g] 740(typ.)
Contrast Ratio 300:1
Interface LVDS 2 Port
Viewing Angel[¢ª,U/D/L/R] 45/45/60/60
Response Time[ms] 25(typ.)
Accessories this demo model came with:
A closer view...
It comes in slightly taller than the 4780 as you can see in this pic:
Right side with the subwoofer module installed.
Right side with the TV Tuner installed. The unit comes with an adapter you simply plug into the side and you can screw your coax cable into the side for cable TV. The remote control will allow regular TV watching from a distance.
To swap these two modules it requires 2 screws to be removed and replaced and just a simple connector:
One connector is for the TV Tuner, the other for the Subwoofer. Whichever device you're not using, you just tuck away the other connector... or if you're using the 12 Cell battery, just tuck them both away.
Above you see all four modules that go into this bay. The 8 cell battery leaves room for either the TV Tuner or the subwoofer, the larger 12 cell battery take the room of the whole bay.
The cooling system appears to be built for whatever Intel can throw at it. With a slight volume increase over the other Sagers, it move much more air. The palm rest stays much cooler than the 4780 which we've heard a few complaints over.
Here's a couple of cam shots:
@ the store showing off half of our laptop display through the LCD cam.
Some of the guys that took advantage of me keeping the store open late to write this review. Are they helping on the review? Nope, gaming.
Battery testing
Right out of the box after a full charge, we tested DVD playback at a moderate volume and with the 12 cell battery (6600mah) we ran for 1 hour and 32 minutes.
With the 8 cell battery (4800mah) and the subwoofer, the system ran for 1 hour and 10 minutes. This was without power cycling or any special battery saving settings.
Other benchmarking
All settings were out of the box default settings on an 8790 with the 3.4GHZ Northwood processor, 1024MB dual channel DDR RAM, and 60GB 7200rpm hard drive in RAID 0 =).
The video card in the 8790 (ATI 9700 256MB RAM) comes clocked @ 415/280.
The 4780 we compared it to has a 60GB 7200rpm hard drive, ATI 9600PRO Turbo, 1024MB DDR RAM, and a 3.2GHZ Northwood processor.
UT2K3
800 X 600 Flyby
4780 185
8790 207
800 X 600 Botmatch
4780 73
8790 80
1024 X 768 Flyby
4780 128
8790 146
1024 X 768 Botmatch
4780 71
8790 79
1600 X 1200 Flyby
4780 55
8790 62
1600 X 1200 Botmatch
4780 43
8790 50
X2 The Threat ave FPS benchmark
4780 62FPS
8790 71FPS
GunMetal Benchmark 1
LOW/AVE/HIGH
4780
9.28/14.67/50.25
8790
10.05/16.77/61.08
Aquamark 3
4780 23,025
8790 27,102
All settings on Slipnter Cell were set to max (high/high/very high)
Splinter Cell 1024X768 ave FPS
4780 32.7
8790 37.3
Splinter Cell 1280X1024 ave FPS
4780 25.7
8790 29.4
Splinter Cell 1600X1200 ave FPS
4780 20.7
8790 23.5
Oh, and for you 3DMARKers since I know you'll ask and not let it go =), here's the #'s:
3DMARK01 SE- 11,826
3DMARK03 (340 patch)- 3,381
Sandra 2004 CPU ALU
4780 9884
8790 10315
Sandra 2004 CPU FPU
4780 3991
8790 4185
Sandra 2004 CPU SSE
4780 6952
8790 7458
Sandra 2004 Multi-Media Integer
4780 24405
8790 25774
Sandra 2004 CPU Multi-Media Float
4780 35275
8790 37568
Sandra 2004 Memory Bandwidth
4780 2767/2768
8790 4277/4315
As for what this system is doing right now, it's running a UT2K4 demo server with a person gaming on it and 5 others remoted into it gaming... I'm going to be #7 in a little bit
Over all I'm very happy with what I see so far and yes it's my system of choice. Where do I expect to hear complaints? Fan noise, weight, and battery life... exactly where you'd expect in a desktop replacement.
SAGER 8790 pricing
I'll try to add more when I can.
