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post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Dr. House
Well, take this with a grain of salt Wooster:

I'm not familiar with OC'ing AMDs, but if you get an Opteron, will you have to change your motherboard?

I'm asking because if you do have to change your mobo, have you considered a Core 2 Duo processor? Even a low end 1.83 ghz is about 180 dollars. Core 2 Duos overclock really well and are extremely cool as far as tempertures go.

But, if you don't need to change motherboards for the Opy, than why bother? You'll still get the power you want, regardless.

However, either route you choose, I'd wait just a bit longer as far as making a purchase decision. With Quad Core on the scene, prices are bound to go down a bit more.

Just a suggestion, I hope it helps.
Thanks for the suggestion, but keep in mind that the system is a Shuttle. Replacing the mobo isn't much of an option (my computer supports the Opteron 165 anyways). And I have no plans to overclock it 2 TEH MAXX!!!1!, just a light oc'ing. I've never tried overclocking before, so I have no plans to push it anywhere near the limit.

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Originally Posted by wallypa
Wooster, here's a good link to give you a basic idea on how simple (or complex) overclocking the 165 is.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict177075.html

Here's an anandtech forum that discusses overclocking in more detail:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear

When I bought my 165 rig last year (from the for sale forum), it was already oc'd at 2.4. I planned to oc it to at least 2.6, but at this point, I really don't see any need for it because I'm quite satisfied with the performance at 2.4. When the need arises, I'll definitely oc it to 2.6 or 2.8.

Never had any problem with temp. My cpu temp at idle is about 22.5c. System temp is around 29.5c.

Here's my cpu's description from cpu-z:

Name: AMD Opteron 165 (UP)
Code Name: Toledo
Brand ID: 44
Package: Socket 939
Technology: 90nm
Voltage 1.552v
Family: Model: 3 Stepping: 2
Clocks:
Core Speed: 2402.6 Mhz
Multiplier: x8.0
HTT: 300.3 Mhz
Stepping Code: OSA165DAA6CD CCBWE 0550UPMW

Mainboard: Abit KN8 Series (NF-CK804)
Bios: Phoenix Tech, LTD

Good luck...
Cool, thanks for the links.

I doubt I'd push mine passed 2.4. What kind of cooling does your rig have?
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by Wooster
Thanks for the suggestion, but keep in mind that the system is a Shuttle. Replacing the mobo isn't much of an option (my computer supports the Opteron 165 anyways). And I have no plans to overclock it 2 TEH MAXX!!!1!, just a light oc'ing. I've never tried overclocking before, so I have no plans to push it anywhere near the limit.


Cool, thanks for the links.

I doubt I'd push mine passed 2.4. What kind of cooling does your rig have?

Ah, wasn't aware you had a shuttle, sorry 'bout that.

Well, it's nice that you've got a game plan set up though. Good luck.
post #23 of 28
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Thanks.

I'll probably be posting a review/how-to for building a Shuttle since I'm basically re-doing the whole thing, and its no longer my first time building a computer.
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by Wooster
Thanks.

I'll probably be posting a review/how-to for building a Shuttle since I'm basically re-doing the whole thing, and its no longer my first time building a computer.
no such thing as building/rebuilding a shuttle, its a barebone system, you put in the normal goods proc/ram/vid/optical toss in an OS and youre done


however im guessing you eaither 1) have me on ignore or 2) dont care about my advice that proves that a fx55 wtfpwns a dual core 1.8 opty (non overclocked for both, same for overclocked)

but, youre choice i find it funny

soulsaver
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by soulsaver_8229

however im guessing you eaither 1) have me on ignore or 2) dont care about my advice that proves that a fx55 wtfpwns a dual core 1.8 opty (non overclocked for both, same for overclocked)

but, youre choice i find it funny

soulsaver

You're correct, the fx55 runs at 2.6 vs the opty 165's 1.8, that's a no brainer. However, if you compare the price between the two cpus, there is still a big difference, plus the 165 is dual core with an l2 cache of 1meg for each core (excellent for gaming). For $150, you can reach (if you desire) the clock speed of an fx55 with some oc'ing. The point is if you're on a budget, the 165 is a good bang for the buck.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Wooster
I doubt I'd push mine passed 2.4. What kind of cooling does your rig have?

I have a zalman quiet fan 120mm. I've read overclockers recommend the big typhoon, but the zalman is pretty good imo.
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by wallypa
You're correct, the fx55 runs at 2.6 vs the opty 165's 1.8, that's a no brainer. However, if you compare the price between the two cpus, there is still a big difference, plus the 165 is dual core with an l2 cache of 1meg for each core (excellent for gaming). For $150, you can reach (if you desire) the clock speed of an fx55 with some oc'ing. The point is if you're on a budget, the 165 is a good bang for the buck.
read my links and youll see that you are wrong

for gaming fx 55 > 165


soulsaver
post #28 of 28
oh man, I just found out about this...perfect timing! (I had posted last month that I was starting to look into building a Desktop rig).

Looks like it's for Canadian residents only, but Intel's offering free Core2Duo Extreme chips.

http://www.charlie2echo.com/

I'm gonna apply now and see what the deal is.
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