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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I say this half in jest, but I did just get a Macbook on Friday and I installed Parallels. Now I've got the best of both worlds... the stability and reliability of OS X and the convenience of running any Windows app that I want.

Perhaps this is why Apple is selling so many Mac's. I've been using Windows PC's for 25 years and if the last time I touched an Apple was an Apple IIe until now. Dell should look to make some improvements... ASAP.
post #2 of 21
i too switched from dell to a first gen macbook. i love it, but am giving some serious thought as to what to replace it with. the mb will be gone in feb, and ive been looking hard at both a new mb, new mbp, and the dell latitudes.
post #3 of 21
Dell? How about all laptops that run windows? Becasue they run windows. lol.
post #4 of 21
same here... from dell to mac... I still got a dell but it's a desktop and since I own a mac windows xp look even uglier than before
post #5 of 21
im having a hard time with xp now as well!
post #6 of 21
well, coming from a semi-unbiased look at the situation, i have 2 equivalent notebooks, 1 mac, 1 pc. (see sig) I would say that yes, the MBP has a huge advantage when it comes to build quality and reliability, but with my E1505 i dont think that the MBP is a clear winner. i could go on forever saying the advantages/disadvantages of each, but i wont. I guess you could say having both machines kind of complete the puzzle when it comes to computing. Things like photoshop, indesign, and illustrator are awesome on the MBP, but i got windows on the dell for gaming, general web surfing, and windows is what i've been using for years up until i got my MBP a few months ago.
post #7 of 21
Im in love with my macbook too, but to say dell should be worried is rediculous. Macs are nice but they aren't for everyone. And considering the incredible coupons Dell always has then price will always be in favor of he pc.

Also, even max'd out at 2GB ram then booting to windows via parallels takes too long and causes the system fans to run very loud. Its definitely nice to have one comp to run 3 OS's but windows on mac hasn't been as simple as i expected. I'll stick with macs for now but i wouldnt recommend anyone to switch, especially considering Vista is a darn good upgrade.
post #8 of 21
I just picked up a 24" iMac ... yeah I know this is a notebood forum .. but I am going to wait for Leopord when Apple will provide BootCamp as part of their OS. With both OSX and Vista on the Apple 24" ...... has to be a rockin' machine .....congratulations jjfpca on on your mac book !!
post #9 of 21
bootcamp MAY not ever support vista, so be forewarned
post #10 of 21
Just purchased the mac mention in my sig, i love it to death, i cannot believe i locked myself in windows for so long. build quality, software integration, stability, ease of use... incredible.
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by kgeier82
bootcamp MAY not ever support vista, so be forewarned


Thanks .... I thought bootcamp that is coming out with Leopard would support Vista ...... Hmmmm , I will have to keep an eye on the supportability .... Tks again
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kgeier82
i too switched from dell to a first gen macbook. i love it, but am giving some serious thought as to what to replace it with. the mb will be gone in feb, and ive been looking hard at both a new mb, new mbp, and the dell latitudes.

I've had both the D620 and the D820. The D620 was a nice form factor, but I had some issues with lockups and some software not running properly. The build was "loose" compared to the D820.

I also had some issues with the D820, although my son-in-law is now using it. The build seemed much more solid but I didn't like the form factor. Bulky and heavy.

I've still got a T60 Core Duo and use if for sheer business work. It put both the Dell's to shame in terms of reliability, but it sure does boot slow.
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by av3ng3r
well, coming from a semi-unbiased look at the situation, i have 2 equivalent notebooks, 1 mac, 1 pc. (see sig) I would say that yes, the MBP has a huge advantage when it comes to build quality and reliability, but with my E1505 i dont think that the MBP is a clear winner. i could go on forever saying the advantages/disadvantages of each, but i wont. I guess you could say having both machines kind of complete the puzzle when it comes to computing. Things like photoshop, indesign, and illustrator are awesome on the MBP, but i got windows on the dell for gaming, general web surfing, and windows is what i've been using for years up until i got my MBP a few months ago.

I should have mentioned that my computer use is strictly in the business world. I don't do games. Just not enough time in the day.

Yes, Windows will always be the choice for the gamer, because there just doesn't seem to be the development for the Mac.

However, now that I've had a chance to try Parallels on the Mac, I can see the potential of not only developing Windows apps on a Mac, but selling our Windows apps to Mac users.

After all, all these new Mac users that are migrating from the Windows world are probably not using their Macs for gaming ... right? So, they must have the same needs as the Windows world when it comes to business applications. If we can demonstrate to them that their Mac can be used to satisfy their business needs via Parallels (or Bootcamp) and Windows, then they are one step closer to meeting their day-to-day computing needs.
post #14 of 21
Well i use Linux, but i want to get a mac. I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 but Dell are replacing it with a 6400!!! (too many problems) But i really want a MacBook!!
post #15 of 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mini.boss
Im in love with my macbook too, but to say dell should be worried is rediculous. Macs are nice but they aren't for everyone. And considering the incredible coupons Dell always has then price will always be in favor of he pc.

Also, even max'd out at 2GB ram then booting to windows via parallels takes too long and causes the system fans to run very loud. Its definitely nice to have one comp to run 3 OS's but windows on mac hasn't been as simple as i expected. I'll stick with macs for now but i wouldnt recommend anyone to switch, especially considering Vista is a darn good upgrade.

Mini Boss

Vista may be a good upgrade, but have you tried the beta? When the average user encounters UAC (user access control), that may be enough for them to say WTF and look for an alternative.

Vista is slick, but other than the UI improvements, there's not a lot the enduser will see. It's not until you compare OS X to Vista that you begin to see the stricking similarities.

I really don't think it comes down to the OS though, it comes down to the apps that can run on that OS and the reliability of the hardware and the vendor support. Apple made a very smart move with Bootcamp, and if you haven't seen Parallels, it's really impressive. VMWare is working on their virtualization software software for the MAC. I think you will see more Windows users testing the waters (like I did) and then coming to the conclusion that this is not a bad solution. In fact, it may be the wisest solution.
post #16 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDogMan
Thanks .... I thought bootcamp that is coming out with Leopard would support Vista ...... Hmmmm , I will have to keep an eye on the supportability .... Tks again

there's really no reason as to why bootcamp would not support vista. in fact, i'm pretty sure i've read about ppl who have already installed the vista beta on their macs to test that very theory out. MS has had their specs listed for some time about what it will take to run vista so it's not like Apple would be caught unaware. the mini, base 17" iMac, and the macbook all meet basic hardware requirements to run vista so anything extra with a discrete GPU is surplus in the way of hardware. it seems what bootcamp can't do just yet, is to be able to set up and manage partitions for vista. parallels is working on the capability to run vista as well.

btw...
http://digg.com/apple/BootCamp:_Vist...Booting_on_MBP

http://digg.com/apple/Vista_now_work..._Boot_Camp_1_1
post #17 of 21
Well I bought a Macbook in August. I liked it a lot, I loved the OS and for a while I hated Windows. I originally had a 17" Dell that I thought was too big and I got the 12" Dell that had too many problems. The Macbook didn't come without problems though. I ended up with three, the first had something faulty that caused slow performance (hardware related, something to do with overheating). The second one had one annoying dead pixel. Three times a charm, but I began to want my 17" Dell back, call me crazy. And I found myself booting into Windows far more. My wife loved it, so I gave it to her and got another 17" Dell.

The Mac does have heating issues being that it is such a small form factor. The keyboard area gets really hot, and the bottom is hotter than my already-hot 17" Dell. And since it is so tiny there aren't as many ports on it as I'd like and you are required to by adapter cables for DVI/VGA/TV connections. Finally, in the end after I got over my Mac-love I had some sort of an appreciation for Windows. Mac OS X is great, everything makes more sense especially for a novice computer user. It also can boot/shutdown/sleep much faster than Windows. The lack of games (and hardware to play games in my case too) and the somewhat slowness of the OS in general really turned me off. I use Office for school every day and the current Mac version (which is PPC running in Rosetta) is much slower than the Windows couterpart.

So I yet again am a PC man. I've experimented with that hacked version of OS X on the Dell but it isn't the same. I hope Apple wises up and Makes Leopard available for x86. That will be the day!
post #18 of 21
well i believed that apple fixed the heat issue, my macbook (c2d 2.0 ghz) has been running for the past 24 hours, the last 6 i have been messing around in idvd, and listening to itunes and it is maybe 5 degrees above room temp, and after i put my hand underneath it, the heat goes away in a few seconds. when i think of a hot laptop, i think of what my xps gen 2 feels like under the gfx (front right on the bottom) after 3 hours of BF2 ... i swear, it would probably give me blisters if i kept my hand there for a few minutes.
post #19 of 21
i see the title of this post and think (as an apple user)...

dells pricing structure ENSURES theyll never be in trouble from apple. Not anywhere close to now anyways.

i love my macbook, and yes dell should be worried about MY NEXT SALE. but the average consumer? DELL has them locked up.
post #20 of 21
i guess it depends. i see some pretty average consumers who make a point to buy hondas and toyotas despite the pinch it puts on their pocketbooks bc they know it's a better value/investment in the long run. just my 2 cents.
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