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post #41 of 74
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Originally Posted by caboosemoose
Well, we've had our 8790 in for a few days now and have played with the clock frequencies. Generally have found that it's only possible to go about 40MHz over on core and less than that with the mem (around 20-30 extra MHz) - got some really nasty artefacting at anything more than that.

A lot of people have gotten much more than 40MHz out of the core and more of the mem. Maybe its just you? Maybe try the Omega drivers. Even Adam of PCT tried it at 500/300 (same as the desktop 9600 XT) and it works fine.
post #42 of 74
At 513/303 I start noticing slight artifacts but only in certain situations (e.g. strange pixelation in the large textures like the ground and the sky.)

Anything below that (e.g. 499/297), for me at least, is perfectly usable/stable (tested with intense gameplay for multiple hours.)
I am running Omega 2.5.30 drivers.
post #43 of 74
what are your settings? Do you have everything cranked high?
post #44 of 74
With my 8790, I could go as high as 521/282. The memory could not be clocked beyond 282 without incurring artifacts. Even at 415/283, some serious artifacting would take place. Since the 8790's factory settings have the memory clocked at 277, I'd say that my 8790 had virtually no overclocking potential as far as the memory's concerned.

Also, I'd like to point out that the Far Cry demo didn't run well on my system, even at medium settings at 1024x768. I had the 3.0 GHz processor and 512 MB of RAM.
post #45 of 74
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Originally Posted by Babbabresaur
what are your settings? Do you have everything cranked high?
6x AA and 16x AF just for kicks in the last week to test the beast.

I'm gonna scale my estimate back a little. After beta-ing Lineage II for 4 hours at 1440x900 32bit full details, I did notice artifacting at 499/297. It wasn't enough to become unplayable or overly annoying; but it definitely was not perfect.
post #46 of 74
Adam will you be shipping out laptops overclocked or do i have to do that myself?
post #47 of 74
I doubt they would ever ship laptops OC'd. Their is an inherent risk in overclocking the CPU or GPU, one which the manufacturers will not take responsibility for. When you get a laptop, it is your discretion as to installing an OC tool such as Radlinker or Powerstrip, and if something happens as a result, the manufacturer will not be responsible.
post #48 of 74
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Originally Posted by infamous_pb
A lot of people have gotten much more than 40MHz out of the core and more of the mem. Maybe its just you? Maybe try the Omega drivers. Even Adam of PCT tried it at 500/300 (same as the desktop 9600 XT) and it works fine.
Granted, i didn't spend a lot of time on it - not enough to be totally sure where the mem/core balance was. It's a review system and if - unlikely, but possible - i toast it, it's a little awkward for me. That said, i was more thorough with the 5680 and that really didn't over clock well. Generally i find the super high over clocks posted by some around here a little dubious. I can't imagine why clevo would ship the 8790 clocked at around 400MHz if it could handle 500MHz, they;d surely go for at lest 450MHz. And don;t say battery life - that's never measured when gaming, so the battery power power clock for the gpu needn't be any different than it currently is.
post #49 of 74
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Originally Posted by caboosemoose
Granted, i didn't spend a lot of time on it - not enough to be totally sure where the mem/core balance was. It's a review system and if - unlikely, but possible - i toast it, it's a little awkward for me. That said, i was more thorough with the 5680 and that really didn't over clock well. Generally i find the super high over clocks posted by some around here a little dubious. I can't imagine why clevo would ship the 8790 clocked at around 400MHz if it could handle 500MHz, they;d surely go for at lest 450MHz. And don;t say battery life - that's never measured when gaming, so the battery power power clock for the gpu needn't be any different than it currently is.

Adam from PCTorque ran 500/300 ok but left it a little lower just to be safe.
post #50 of 74
I'm sorry if you got a lappy that disappointed you. It appears that these vid cards have varying abilities to overclock. And we must keep in mind the environmental and internal parameters of each laptop. But believe me some of these lappys (5680 in my my case) seem to have no trouble with one hundred megahertz and more increases...Reference.http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=12157
post #51 of 74
so its safe to overclock, but what if i have a cooling pad?
post #52 of 74
Sure....... its fine to overclock. I dont care what other people say. I have a crappy HP ze4430us and I OC'ed it from 133mhz core to 202mhz core and it works fine.... No cooling fans, no nothing.
post #53 of 74
Adam, anyone.

I was thinking about working on OCing my 5670 some, but read that you should clean your heatsinks every few months. I opened up my fan bay/area for the first time (last week) since i got my PC in august of 2003, my fans were dusty but I did not know how to procede into getting to the heatsinks themselves.

Please any help would be appreciated!

thaks
dan
post #54 of 74
I'm going to buy a laptop soon. After reading alot of posts I think I'll go with a 8790 or a similar model. I'm looking at cyberpowerinc. right now and they just started selling the Gamer Xplorer x7-8000. This looks identical to the 8790. Do you think 140 bucks is worth going with cyber over sager?
post #55 of 74
The X7-8000 has the old screen and the 2x DVD-R/-RW.

You will have to make up your own mind.
post #56 of 74
hmm, I tried the omegas a couple nights ago and got a huge performance increase in far cry. But now it seems that the overclocking is doing nothing for my gameplay again, and I get a 3166 score in 3dmark 2003 It seems to me their are many more variables to getting good video performance out of the 8790 than I initially thought. Can anyone give me some pointers to juice up my sager?

8790 p4 3.0 512 raid 0 7200, xp pro, latest omegas, clocked at 460, high gloss screen.
post #57 of 74
You can always get more system memory, and also get a second hard drive and then put the paging file on the second hard drive.
post #58 of 74
I hope to upgrade ram in year or so, too bad I need to sell the sticks I have now to get a gig. Anyone need 512 ram in a year? I found out the omegas were not holding clock speeds on reboot. They were before but something went wrong so I decided to get powerstrip and use with original cd drivers like adam's example. Used a driver cleaner before ati install and reboot. Set page file to fixed size, same minimum and maximum, at a gig cause I plan on doing a lot of multi tasking with multiple audio apps. Loaded up far cry and played for a bit untill ram was really being taxed. Quit and ran free version of disk keeper to defrag raid and page file. Set video clock to adam's safe speeds and boinginging. 3600 on 3dmark 2003 thanks adam

I played far cry at 1400 with no screen stretch and nearly cried. Unfortunately my cd/dvd drive just failed and I'm waiting for new one If you hear some very high pitched whisling sound, beware, your drive may stop reading dvds soon.

Also as far as sound goes on 8790, or any laptop for that matter, go buy a 3 prong to 2 prong power adapter from radio shack to get rid of hard drive noise.

This kind of turned into a review but I hoped it might help someone.

one last thing, anyone wish the normal fan mode would never turn fans off?
In a 70 degree room it causes heat spikes.
--fans off--37* heats to 50*-- fans on cools back to 37*--fans off again
the room might have been a little hotter but still, I think that fans on a laptop should always be on! definetly this beast.
post #59 of 74
i must be lucky, i've been running at 548/287 with no artifacting in anything from 3dmark to farcry.

3d mark =4k+
aquamark=33k
post #60 of 74
It seems a lot of people have been having trouble with even the 256mb MR9700 and Far Cry on the 8790's. Which doesn't bode well, considering it's only the first of this year's 4th gen game engines. I wonder how it will hold up to HL2 and Doom 3?
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