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XPS M1710 only 30 FPS on CoD2?

post #1 of 41
11/26/06 at 12:55pm
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Hi,

I have the XPS M1710 with the 7900GTX, 512Mb graphics card and 2Gig of RAM. I naturally expected this thing to just play games without any problems. Well, when I turn the resolution up to native (1920x1200) on Call of Duty 2, the game slows right down to 30FPS... Am I being unreasonable to assume thatI should be able to run this game with high settings?

I have the latest graphics/chipset drivers from dell and I have just formatted and reinstalled windows, so there is no crap installed. It was running the same before I formatted too. I tried some third party drivers, but they didn't work with my secondary display, so I had to ditch them.

Any thoughts? Kinda feels like I wasted a lot of money at the moment!

Paul
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post #2 of 41
11/26/06 at 2:04pm
Well maybe it's one of the reasons because I didn't buy the Truelife screen. Take in account 1920x1200 is a 77.78% more pixels than 1440x900. Using 4:3 ratios, the difference between 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 is 47%, and is really noticeable.

Pixel resolution and framerate are not linearly linked, it is doubling the pixel count you don't get half the FPS, but it does have a real impact. Try to run the game at 1440x900 and check the framerate.

If you finally decide to run games at 1440x900, antialiasing will help with the effect you get when using a different resolution than the native one. That's what I did until I found the way to run NFS:Carbon at 1440x900. The game options only allow up to 1024x768. With 4x antialiasing I almost got simmilar res to 1440x900. But the game menus (mostly texts) showed washed and non-nitid. Now I use a loader to start the game at 1440x900

Also, overclocking your card will help. Default clocks are 500/600, but you can get it even to 650/850.
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post #3 of 41
11/26/06 at 2:49pm
you should have no problems running COD 2 at all I ran it on my 1920x1200 and didn't have the issues. Heck I ran HL2 at 120fps maxed out

have you tested it with the secondary display off?

also do you have the dual core windows patch in for your CPU? that believe it or not has caused more issues with games than not. Windows doesn't know how to deal with dual Core processors.

Djinn sent me a link for the download I will see if I can find it. it was in a thread on Hard forums.
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post #4 of 41
11/26/06 at 2:52pm
Yes and there was a intelcod2patch.exe too. I remember it was for dual cores. Maybe I was (partly) wrong. Resolution still has an impact, but maybe not that much
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post #5 of 41
11/26/06 at 3:47pm
You might have AA set to high at that resolution anything higher than 2x will start to have a huge impact on performance.
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post #6 of 41
11/26/06 at 5:56pm
here is the thread I was talking about

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

though the fix says its for AMD it works with the intel chips too. I didn't bother going straight through the thread, Djinn reccomended it and that was good enough for me.
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post #7 of 41
11/26/06 at 9:19pm
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Thankyou all for your replies.

I have installed the dual core patch on my system and it did not help unfortunately. I let CoD2 set my options automatically and even on the recommended settings (which have low resolution and 2xAA) the framerate stays at 30fps constantly.

I also tried running half life 2 episode one to see what my framerate was in there and I was shocked to find out that it was running at just 14FPS!! I finished that game and did not think it ran badly. I obviously have no idea what I am missing out on here.

If anyone can think of what might cause this to happen (I am currently thinking along the lines of bad driver versions/missing drivers) I'd be really grateful. I guess I should give dell support a try too... I ran their diagnostic utility and that came up with no problems.
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post #8 of 41
11/26/06 at 9:41pm
Yeah, it will most likely turn out to be drivers or the card itself, sorry to hear about the problem
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post #9 of 41
11/26/06 at 10:30pm
have you tried a 3dmark test?
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post #10 of 41
11/27/06 at 12:25am
If its exactley at 30 fps you might have vsync on. Turn it off

Check to see if its on in both drivers and game options.
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post #11 of 41
11/27/06 at 10:13pm
..sounds like Vsync
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post #12 of 41
11/28/06 at 1:38am
i was getting well over 180 on my 1710 with 1920x1200 res and almost everything turned up...I did some game tweaks that helped but don't remember them all...i have not had it for 2 weeks now so I haven't played COD in a while. My point is, you SHOULD be able to get minimum 100 FPS even with 2AA and all other stuff turned up. Sounds like drivers to me, and definately check vsynch setup...also to get higher FPS...change from "auto" to Directx7 .. that will help speed it up a lot and still looks great. Good luck.
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post #13 of 41
11/28/06 at 1:52am
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Originally Posted by ThrottledU
...change from "auto" to Directx7 .. that will help speed it up a lot and still looks great. Good luck.
There is NO way a machine at this level should need you to force DX7, there is something else going on here. I would be interested to know the temps on the card, might be worth installing Ati tool and stressing the card while you can look at the temp and see if it gets too high. If it's that bad then it may be a hardware issue.
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post #14 of 41
11/28/06 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by ThrottledU
i was getting well over 180 on my 1710 with 1920x1200 res and almost everything turned up...I did some game tweaks that helped but don't remember them all...i have not had it for 2 weeks now so I haven't played COD in a while. My point is, you SHOULD be able to get minimum 100 FPS even with 2AA and all other stuff turned up. Sounds like drivers to me, and definately check vsynch setup...also to get higher FPS...change from "auto" to Directx7 .. that will help speed it up a lot and still looks great. Good luck.
You're only getting those frames because you probably turned off dircectx9. That makes the game look barely better than the first cod.
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post #15 of 41
11/28/06 at 6:39am
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I didn't have much time to play about last night, but I did manage to try turning VSynch off. This resulted in about 45-50 FPS in CoD2 and 50-60FPS in HL2. This is with AA x2 and native resolution. Half Life 2 especially had really noticeable tearing when moving around though.

I'll try the 3d benchmark and Ati tool later if I have the time and post the results.

Thankyou all - I really appreciate everyone's help!
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post #16 of 41
11/28/06 at 11:53am
That sounds too low, I do understand I only have a 1440x900 WXGA screen on my 9300, but depending on the map(HL2) with the 6800go i get 120-180FPS with all the settings pretty much maxed....so I would easily have to say that your 7900GTX should be able to run HL2 at that as well
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post #17 of 41
11/28/06 at 2:12pm
For some reason i get the same problem, except i have only 1gig of RAM. My frame rates on Day Of Defeat: Source goes from 30-70 FPS, occassionaly 80. This is w/ 4x AA and max everything.. is there anything i should do too to improve my frame rates? it stays around 40-60 avg. with DOD:source. And if i use third party driver like from Tweaks R Us, i get BSOD while installing it

so i i'm still using the driver that came w/ the CD. Do you guys know any links where i can get an updated video driver? (not from 3rd party) Thanks for all your help.
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post #18 of 41
11/28/06 at 2:27pm
At 1920 X 1200 I've never really thought I needed AA
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post #19 of 41
11/28/06 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by Betauser
For some reason i get the same problem, except i have only 1gig of RAM. My frame rates on Day Of Defeat: Source goes from 30-70 FPS, occassionaly 80. This is w/ 4x AA and max everything.. is there anything i should do too to improve my frame rates? it stays around 40-60 avg. with DOD:source. And if i use third party driver like from Tweaks R Us, i get BSOD while installing it

so i i'm still using the driver that came w/ the CD. Do you guys know any links where i can get an updated video driver? (not from 3rd party) Thanks for all your help.
That sounds normal for max settings with hdr, 1920x1200 and 4xAA...Hdr is pretty demanding. Turn off AA, it isnt nececary at native resolution and should give you some fps boost if you aren't happy with the current frame rate. Not sure why you get a BSOD on the drivers though.
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post #20 of 41
11/28/06 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by GBmanNC
That sounds normal for max settings with hdr, 1920x1200 and 4xAA...Hdr is pretty demanding. Turn off AA, it isnt nececary at native resolution and should give you some fps boost if you aren't happy with the current frame rate. Not sure why you get a BSOD on the drivers though.

that's without the HDR already but hopefully i get my 2gig next month and do you know where i can update my video driver? not 3rd party driver since i get BSOD when using 3rd driver.. and i dont know why..
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