Benchmark: F3JP Benchmark ATI X1700

what drivers? i recall the x1600 with omega drivers scored 4440 3dmark05. =/

edit; *looks down* - ah ok , you going to do all benchmarks like before xD?

I have the exact same Laptop and all I can say is wow! I had been searching for a replacement for my Toshiba M40X (so sad to see it go) and found so many specs that just didn't meet what I needed - until I seen this in 'What Laptop' - 15.4" with mountains of CPU muscle and power for high spec gaming!

Why is it THAT good?

(1) I have a 3.4 GHz workstation for running Virtual PC testbeds at work and this wipes the floor with it!
(2) I've just finished Half Life 2: Episode 1 and the X1700 is a great performer. On a PAR with my old FX 53 and an X800.
(3) Build Quality is awesome and it's understated looks are much more tasteful than gaudy XPS.
(4) The Spec - what can I say - SO much power on tap and 2GB of DDR 2.
(5) 17" is too big (not really a laptop) - 14" or less is to small for general desktop use - this is portable, reasonably light, fully loaded and extremely powerful - all the boxes are ticked - makes sense.

The perfect laptop - for me perhaps...

Thanks for the preview. It is a shame that the X1700 is considerably slower than the 7700.

They actually have similar performance on 3Dmark05 both the X1700 and the 7700, but as far as i know, the nvidia 7k series always performed better on 3dmark06 anyways, but its only less than 300mark difference between this model and the G1.

both the G1 and this one seem so nice... darn i wish i had enough money to get a new machine

Hi Ken, I have found a method to install the latest Catalyst driver 7.1 on the x1700 card. Originally this new driver does not seem to be supporting x1700 card, but if you make some changes to the installation files than it is possible to install it for x1700 cards also. Actually this is the same procedure that is followed by ASUS in order to provide us with a driver for x1700, because ATI does not support their own hardware until now. I am uploading the necessary information that allows to do this for a short time here: http://rapidshare.com/files/15087218...x1700_card.rar I don't know how I can upload it to this forum. Maybe Ken you can do it, so it would be available for longer time.

Hi Ken,
Sorry for that.
I made some mistake when I ziped the file first time.
I have fixed the problem already yesterday, but I think I forgot to change the link here.
This time the file should not be empty. It's about 12Kb and contains three files plus instructions.

Here is the link again:
http://rapidshare.com/files/15087218...x1700_card.rar

These files should replace some original files in the unzipped folder of ATI 7.1 driver.
Please read the instructions that I have provided with the download.

Actually what we are doing is just inserting the name of the x1700 into the installation routine and we are installing the driver of x1600. Officially there is no driver for x1700 until now.
Asus is also doing this. I was informed about this procedure by ASUS Germany at first, but the file they provided me worked only to install driver and not the new Catalyst control center.

I have later found this working solution at a German forum.
If you like I can even send you the whole procedure of making the modification to the installation routines.
I hope by the next version we would not need to do all these changes. I hope next official version will support x1700.

Hi Ken,
I forgot to tell you that this procedure is for windows XP only.
For other windows versions the installation routine has to be modified accordingly.

Not bad, but I think that you should be able to raise mem frequency a little more. Otherwise the X1700 is equal to the X1600 (I reach almost 4600, with 1GB RAM and a T2400). Maybe they should mount GDDR3 instead of cheap DDR2...

But ATI Tool (or Sandra, or Everest) recognizes your vram as GDDR3 in the G2?
If so, you could overclock memories very high, and obtain at least 5200 at 3DMark05, given the fact that the Acer Travelmate 8200, with a less powerful cpu, could reach those scores...

Hi Ken, Strange that this procedure to update driver for x1700 to Catalyst mobile 7.1 did not work for you. I have used the same procedure to install the 7.1 version. I have it installed for two weeks now, and I did not get any problems with that until now. I will dedicate the next post to describe this procedure step-by-step. You can go through the manual procedure. It should work.

Step-by-step procedure to install mobile Catalyst control center for x1700

Officially there is no support for x1700 , but with proper changes it is possible to install the mobile catalyst control center 7.1 on x1700 Card!

You can either download the file I prepared from here:
X1700 Catalyst Installation Guide by Turbogear

OR you can do it manually as described below.

This can be done as follows:

(1) Download the Ati driver "Ati Mobile Catalyst 7.1"

(2) Unpack it. That can be done as follows.
Try to install the driver. It will unpack itself into a folder "C:\ATI\SUPPORT\7-1-mobile_xp_dd_ccc_enu_40212"
Of course it would not be installed since it say that the X1700 is not supported.

Now do the following steps to make the x1700 supported by "Ati Mobile Catalyst 7.1"

Every device has so called Real Device ID and that should be added to the installation routine.
The Mobility x1700 has the ID: 0x71D5 and this should be added to "install.ini" as demonstrated here:

(3) Open the "Install.ini" file with an editor. Usaully it is in folder "Driver" (normally in "C:\ATI\SUPPORT\7-1-mobile_xp_dd_ccc_enu_40212\Driver".
Look in the section described below and add the x1700 ID there so this section would look as follows:

[WINXP]
Label=R6
R6=DriverPath_R6,0x71D5,0x4966,0x496E,0x5961....

Save the file and exist.
Note: This is the procedure for windows xp. If you want to do it for other version of windows than you would have to edit the approaperiate section.

(4) Do the same procedure with the file "CX_40214.INI" which is also located under the same folder.

The windows xp section in this "CX_40214.INI" file should look like below after adding x1700 ID:

[WINXP]
Label=R6
R6=DriverPath_R6,0x71D5,0x4966,0x496E

(5) Change to the folder "XP_INF" (normally "C:\ATI\SUPPORT\7-1-mobile_xp_dd_ccc_enu_40212\Driver\XP_INF").

Open the file "CX_40214.inf" with an editor.

Now comes the part where most of work needed to be done

Search inside "CX_40214.inf" file (with ctrl+F) for the entry [ATI.Mfg.NTx86] and add the following two entries to the end of this section:

"ATI Mobility Radeon X1700" = ati2mtag_M66, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71D5&SUBSYS_12421043
"ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 " = ati2mtag_M66, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71D6&SUBSYS_12B21043


(6) Search for the "General installation section"

It consists of blocks of code.
Scroll down to the block with title [ati2mtag_M56].
Copy the whole block and past is again at the end of the current block.
In the block that you have pasted there are two places where M56 appear. First in the title and again within the block.
Rename the title as [ati2mtag_M66] and change the other M56 to M66.

(7) Search for section "Service Installation"

scroll again to the block [ati2mtag_M56.Services]. Copy the block and past it again. Rename the pasted block as [ati2mtag_M66.Services].


(8) Go to section "Software Installation" and search for the Block "[ati2mtag_M56.SoftwareSettings]" -> Copy it,Past it, Rename pasted block as [ati2mtag_M66.SoftwareSettings]
In this Block there is still one more M56 entry rename it also as M66.


(9) Next search for Block:
[ati2mtag_M56_SoftwareDeviceSettings] -> Copy it, Past it, Rename pasted block as [ati2mtag_M66_SoftwareDeviceSettings]


(10) Now search for the last Block:
[ati2mtag_M56.GeneralConfigData]-> Copy it, Past it, Rename pasted block as [ati2mtag_M66.GeneralConfigData]


Please make sure that each time you copy the complete Block otherwise the procedure would not work properly.

That was it!

(11) Uninstall the old driver.

(12) Go to folder "C:\ATI\SUPPORT\7-1-mobile_xp_dd_ccc_enu_40212"
Now install the Catalyst control center by pressing: issetup.exe

Hopefully, this procedure will work for you as it did for me.

This is funny - I'm reading this thread on my spankin new F3JP.

I downloaded 3DMark 05 and 06, and they will only let me view the scores online. Where did you pick up your copies that show the score in the app itself?

I did some baseline benchmarks in XP. Next I'm planning on running the benchmarks with Catalyst 7.1, then hoping to do the same thing again in Vista Business (64 bit).

I plan on doing full benchmarks for posting. When I was trying to decide which laptop I was going to buy, I was looking for benchmarks that compared in XP and 64bit Vista to get a feel for possible performance increases I was REALLY hoping to find comparisons between Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, and Turion X2s...


BTW, out of the box scores for my F3JP:
3D '05 - 4188 here
3D '06 - 1852 here
SuperPi: 1:01

Okay, I was wondering if it is possible to force Catalyst 7.3 to do the same thing you did with 7.1?

Hi, It is not necessary to do this with CCC 7.3. The ASUS Germany support team are already offering a 7.3 WHQL driver on their website which also supports x1700. Here is the Link: http://www.asustreiber.de/download.php?list.65 In the download section of this website you can also find Vista drivers for x1700 as well.

Well thats is just golden.

I think you are my new best friend.

I take it the idea is to instally the 7.1 Cata. Control and then install the 7.3 drivers?

EDIT: Since I have the manufacturer driver finally downloaded I suppose I will just upgrade to this one. Since you have had yours a while, any issues I might run into? If any of these seems painfully basic or stupid. My defense is I havent slept in more than a day =P