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FX7 Overheating? Not when its been off for 12 hours

post #1 of 9
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Over the past week I have been getting a 3 LED indicator on my Aviator FX7. The indicator is that the caps lock, num lock and scroll lock led lamps start flashing and then within seconds the FX7 shuts itself off. I had spoken to Hypersonic and they indicated that this was an overheating indicator code (LEDs not the shutdown) Took everything out (memory, cpu, Video, ect.) and ensured all dust was removed and all the coper surfaces were clean. Even replaced the CPU/Heatsink putty. Everything was fine for a few days. Then on Tuesday of this week, happened again. Took everything out again, cleaned, reseated. All was fine until last night. Did it again. Left the unit off overnight for no less than 12 hours. Tried to powerup the FX7 and I immediately got the LED indicators and it shuts off while trying to boot into windows. Room temp. is around 70 degree F, don't think a "cold boot" should have created an overheating indicator if the system was truely overheating. I spent 3 hours "playing today" removing cleaning and reseating each individual part i could find 1 at a time until i got a different bootup indicator. Found that it was video card related. However it only seemed to be able to be replicated when I placed the cover back over the video card and snugged everything down. Currently I have removed the plastic lifting handle from the video card so that it does not bind the video card.and all seems to be ok for now.

Has anyone else seen something like this? Pat, or anyone from Hypersonic that might be reading this, My guess is that something is binding on either the motherboard or video card creating a false overheating indicator. Have you guys/gals seen something like this before?

Thanks
post #2 of 9
I'm guessing that its not still covered by the warranty...
I'd be insteresting to see if their warranty coverage is good or not.

But if your removing/tinkering with your video card does the trick, hopefully you're still covered. Those are expensive, especially for laptops.

Good luck with it.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by Dranzaz
Over the past week I have been getting a 3 LED indicator on my Aviator FX7. The indicator is that the caps lock, num lock and scroll lock led lamps start flashing and then within seconds the FX7 shuts itself off. I had spoken to Hypersonic and they indicated that this was an overheating indicator code (LEDs not the shutdown) Took everything out (memory, cpu, Video, ect.) and ensured all dust was removed and all the coper surfaces were clean. Even replaced the CPU/Heatsink putty. Everything was fine for a few days. Then on Tuesday of this week, happened again. Took everything out again, cleaned, reseated. All was fine until last night. Did it again. Left the unit off overnight for no less than 12 hours. Tried to powerup the FX7 and I immediately got the LED indicators and it shuts off while trying to boot into windows. Room temp. is around 70 degree F, don't think a "cold boot" should have created an overheating indicator if the system was truely overheating. I spent 3 hours "playing today" removing cleaning and reseating each individual part i could find 1 at a time until i got a different bootup indicator. Found that it was video card related. However it only seemed to be able to be replicated when I placed the cover back over the video card and snugged everything down. Currently I have removed the plastic lifting handle from the video card so that it does not bind the video card.and all seems to be ok for now.

Has anyone else seen something like this? Pat, or anyone from Hypersonic that might be reading this, My guess is that something is binding on either the motherboard or video card creating a false overheating indicator. Have you guys/gals seen something like this before?

Thanks
The LEDs flashing like that is usually indicative of some type of overheating or an issue with the GPU. You may want to check whether or not it is seated properly, or if there is anything affecting the connection from the GPU to the mainboard.

Pat.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
So far removing the lifting handle seems to have resolved the issue for now. Will give it some more time before I call it good.

Update: On 12/11/06 I had purchased "Medievil II: Total War" and installed it on my FX7. Didn't even get thru the tutorial when the lappy started flashing the LEDs and summarily shutdown. After 10 minutes of reseating the GPU, I was finally able to has a stable system to play. Lappy was fine for the next 6 hours of solid gameplay (Medievil and DDO). Left the lappy on overnight and when I came down the next morning and attempted to load into DDO, flashy flashy once again. 10 more minutes of reseating and all was good the rest of the day. Since I had been on vacation from work I decided to actually get some stuff done around the house on Wednesday. On 12/14/06, I returned to work and when I went to powerup the lappy it just clicked and cycled and never display'd the post data. During my previous troubleshooting I recognized this symptom as a "no GPU installed" error sequence. Several reseats later it finally loaded into Windows but within 5 minutes of working, flashy flashy once again. Currently its a 50/50 shot as to whether or not the GPU will be recognized and when it is, the "faulty/overheating GPU" indication is immediately display'd when the power button is depressed and the lappy shuts itself off half way thru windows boot.

I have contacted Hypersonic and they are shipping a replacement GPU.
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Update:

Finally got my RMA'd part yesterday (01/11/07). Video card was apparently on backorder. Installed the replacement and much to my dismay, it did not resolve the issue. Gonna call them again today to see what they want to swap out next.

To answer TheFlyingPig's question, the lappy is still under warranty (at least until 02/2007). Part is user swappable and they sent it to me to swap out.

Further Update:

Called them last week and they wanted the unit sent in for repair. It arrived at the CA facility yesterday. More updates to follow as details arrive.
post #6 of 9
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Hadn't heard anything about the laptop since I last posted on 1/18/07. Decided to call Hypersonic from an update. Here a list of the conversation happenings:

1> Called their support number (800-520-0498 Option 2) was transffered into the Voice Mail of Armon.
2> Wanting to actually talk to a live person, I called back.
3> This time I got a live person and can only assume it was Armon based on the accent as he never stated his name.
4> Hypersonic Technician took my RMA number and placed me on hold for approx 2-3 minutes.
5> Technician returned to begin informing me that there was a damaged shipping package and the line cutout.
6> Technician immediately called me back on my cell phone (different line than I called them on).
7> Technician informed me once again that the laptop had been damaged in shipping and that UPS denied their claim (I will get into that later).
8> While waiting for a estimate on the damage cost, I was placed on hold for 15 minutes and when the line went dead again.
9> I went back to the hard line phone and called them back.
10> Got another technician who got me the information I requested as well as informing me that the motherboard needed replaced and that it was on back-order.
11> Call terminated via hangup.

Now for my rant:
1> The damaged laptop.
a) I work for a major ISP?MSO and ship electronic gear out to any one of our 400+ cities almost weekly. This gear includes high dollar routers from Juniper and Cisco.
b) That being said, I feel the laptop was properly and securely shipped in a plain cardboard box.
c) For the damage to occur to the extent described (I won't give details as I don't remember them all), the box had to have been either crushed or dropped several times from a decent distance.
d) The UPS Driver that picked up my box (Actually boxes) had an attitude that day. He stated that according to his paperwork there was a single box to pickup. This is true to an extent. I scheduled a pickup via the ups.com website for a single UPS Ground (the Laptop) and a 2-day air (GPU RMA noted in other posts above). There was a schedule for 2 packages in reality. The driver could have drop kicked the laptop for all i know.

2> The Shipping container:
a) I had to ship the laptop back for repair (bad hard drive apparently) approx. 6 months ago.
b) For that shipment I had the original box and packing material that I received the laptop in on the initial delivery and returned the laptop for repair in said packing material.
c) I received the repaired laptop in a white hypersonic box that looked like it had been left in the ohio river overnight.
d) Inside I found the laptop to be loosely packaged in clear bubble wrap. While the bubble wrap was salvagable, the box was not.
e) For this shipment I was forced to use a shipping box I had laying around, but the laptop was securely and tightly packed with plently of tape on the opened flaps.

3> Repair bill
a) Since UPS has denied the damage claim, I seem to be forced to pay for the damage.
b) Technician was hard to hear and I asked 3-4 times what was damaged and the only word I can think of that matches what he was saying was "panels" on the outside.
c) According to the technician the initial estimate is approx. $200 for the materials and $100 for the labor. The replacement motherboard will be covered under warranty.

4> Phone quality
a) The phone lines going into Hypersonic utterly suck. There was quite a bit of crackling, static, and intermittant dead air which reminds me of the early days of analog cell phones.
b) Since I used 3 different phones and 2 different service providers, odds are that their lines are the issue.

Summary:
Basically I am not happy. I placed the order for this laptop on 02/10/06. It took 5+ weeks for me to receive it, then had a problem that required a shipment to them. They had the laptop for 1 month. Then I late November it dies again and I have been without a usable laptop for 5+weeks and its will be no less than another 2 weeks before I get it back. I just seems the service I am experiencing and the quality and lead times of the repairs are not proportional to the price paid for these units. If this unit was soon to be shipped back with a minimal of fuss, and once I received it and all was better, I had already spec'd out and was prepared to purchase an AX20 once My Tax refund gets here. But now I am concidering spending half the money on a laptop from a cookie-cuter vendor like HP or Toshiba. Do not worry, I am not only complaining about Hypersonic here, I have no love for UPS in this matter either and after other recent adventurers for myself and co-workers, they are next to get an earful.

I am sure I will update this post after I receive the laptop back from the RMA process, but based on past experience, it might not be for another 2-4 weeks before I even get the thing back to evaluate it (after my warranty expires of course).

Thanks for your attention.
post #7 of 9
I feel as you do Dranzaz...these machines are high dollar and we should get alot better service and support, I also dont see me buyng another.....I bought the wife a Toshiba Qosmio for christmas....great options off the shelf...had everything a person would want....its been a little over a year now and she hasnt had onle bit of trouble out of it...and it was 1/2 the price of hypersonics and others laptops...I have looked at some of the Toshiba gaming rigs and they dont look bad...and are priced right...one draw back with toshiba is driver updates...they are slow and she cant use drivers from Nvidia.......but with that said it works like a dream...one thing...the screen colors and sharpness beat the crap out of my EX7.....they are fantastic....NEXT TIME i AM IN ATLANTA.....I am gonna check one out at Comp-USA
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Here we go again......

1 month ago the 3 LED indication started up again. a couple reseats fo the GPU and things were fine for about a month. Over this past weekend it happened again twice. Currently it seems that as long as I keep the lappy powered up in an operational state, all things are fine. Its when I reboot that things go south within minutes of loading any game or graphically intensive application.

Since I have shipped this thing back 2 times before and the lead time has been 1+ months for it to be returned, I opted to order an brand new Dell Inspiron 1720. Didn't go all out, just kept it to a managable $1500 price tag.

My quandry now is that once the FX7 finally dies, do I ship it in for repair or just sell it on e-bay for parts? It is not under warranty anymore and will most likely need another motherboard replacement. And seeing that they do not offer the FX7 anymore, am curious if they will even be able to repair it.

This thing has been a pain in my a** for the past year and a half. When its up and running its great. I just cann't seem to get more than 4-6 months of stable use out of the thing before it starts crapping out.
post #9 of 9
The new owners realy need to look at overheating issues with all their laptops....seems Hyper didnt realy care about it.......
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