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Quadro FX 3500M now available for M90

post #1 of 16
12/8/06 at 10:58am
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I see that today, the FX 3500M is offered in addition to the FX 2500M and 1500M when you buy an M90. I also see that going from a 1500M to a 2500M adds US$249 while going from a 1500 to a 3500 sets you back a cool US$964 . Details are scant - there are a bunch of regurgitated press releases or pretty pictures touting its 38.4GB/s memory bandwidth (which, by the way, the 2500M also has). NVIDIA don't say much either beyond giving the 3500M a Perf # (UGS) \tof 7 compared to 6 for the 2500M. Famed for its cynicism, The Register notes the increased power consumption of 70W compared to 65W, and:
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190m triangles per second and 11.3bn texels per second to the old part's 181m and 10.8bn. Essentially, it's clocked higher, though Nvidia didn't say by how much.
As both those figures show a 5% increase, I speculate its clocked at between 5 and 10% higher - say 550 core and 650 memory? Whats puzzling, then, is the fact that the M90 has an A04 bios which just adds 3500M support; and the previous bios is A02 (an A03 didn't ship?) which seems to indicate there is more to it than light overclocking, surely.
LL
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post #2 of 16
12/8/06 at 11:07am
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NVIDIA has a few more figures demonstrating between 1 and 10% performance gains in four CAD apps. This seems to support the idea of a 10% OC.
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post #3 of 16
12/8/06 at 11:22am
Well like you stated about a mild OC on the 3500FX which is basically the CAD friendly version of the 7950 thats all I cant say one could justify the price premium.
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post #4 of 16
12/8/06 at 3:47pm
my 2500M is clocked at 625/755 while the 3500M comes at a speeds of 575/600... there is no way i would pay for the 3500M...
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post #5 of 16
12/8/06 at 4:10pm
thats with a 7900 bios though right? Can it reach the same with the 2500M bios?
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post #6 of 16
12/8/06 at 4:58pm
even higher, i got to 625/770 but performance was lower... so i went to the gtx bios...
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post #7 of 16
12/11/06 at 2:14pm
The Fx 3500 is the GL version of the 7950GTX card. Clock are the same.


Zyb
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post #8 of 16
1/8/07 at 1:53pm
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I was just pointed to these test results from Dell which show a very variable increase from 2500M to 3500M but, notably, a massive increase in Maya. Viewperf up from 80 to 350!! Huh?
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post #9 of 16
1/8/07 at 4:36pm
There's some massive improvements for Unigraphics software, too. My guess is that there was some particular piece of OpenGL functionality that Maya and UGS had a problem with on mobile NVidia cards, and they have fixed that in the 3500. Certainly good news if you use one of these two pieces of software. Otherwise, as the other comparisons show, the advantage is more evolutionary than revolutionary...
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post #10 of 16
1/8/07 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Pirx
There's some massive improvements for Unigraphics software, too. My guess is that there was some particular piece of OpenGL functionality that Maya and UGS had a problem with on mobile NVidia cards, and they have fixed that in the 3500. Certainly good news if you use one of these two pieces of software. Otherwise, as the other comparisons show, the advantage is more evolutionary than revolutionary...
That would make sense, if Maya was checking to see if some OpenGL functionality was available and, if not, doing some complicated work around (which might generate more primitives).
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post #11 of 16
1/8/07 at 5:54pm
but for the price of that card its simply ridiculous
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post #12 of 16
1/8/07 at 6:11pm
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but for the price of that card its simply ridiculous
Well, that depends. If you are using one of the apps that goes 450% faster then an extra 700 bucks on a 3500 buck laptop could well be justified.

I'm guessing that if this was a game, where the fps went from 20 to 90 or the 3DMark06 went from 4,000 to 18,000 people would be falling over themselves to get it.
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post #13 of 16
1/8/07 at 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisLilley
Well, that depends. If you are using one of the apps that goes 450% faster then an extra 700 bucks on a 3500 buck laptop could well be justified. I'm guessing that if this was a game, where the fps went from 20 to 90 or the 3DMark06 went from 4,000 to 18,000 people would be falling over themselves to get it.
no video card is worth 900 I don't care if it cooks you breakfast after it breaks the translight barrier considering dells cost on that upgraded card is only $75 more than the 2500 it really is a case of just trying to pull as much loot out of people as possible.
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post #14 of 16
2/24/07 at 2:39am
I agree that price is whacked. However, I'm sure they'll give very nice discounts to resellers, and thus to ebay... I saw one on ebay just now at $2600 with the 3500 card. Obviously they're getting huge price breaks.
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post #15 of 16
1/19/10 at 5:43pm
My m90 2500m died with some strange vertical blue lines on boot.
Were could I find another one or a 3500m ?
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post #16 of 16
1/19/10 at 7:30pm
Ebay or For sale section here. Most likely, ebay. The prices will be pretty high on ebay. Around $300+.
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