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Originally Posted by yellowlt4
Does anyone remember the Compact disc?
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Originally Posted by Tichondrius
- Blu-Ray physical format is bad for data. Too easy to destroy. (Don't believe the "better coating" thing as they aren't even using it yet. Too expensive.)
I really doubt your misinformation. A more real fact is BD has more capacity. That's a fact |
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Originally Posted by Tichondrius
- HD movie length: Blu-Ray = 9 hours HD-DVD = 8 hours. So where's the big space difference?
No, it's 25GB vs 15GB (single layer discs), or 66% more capacity. Fact |
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Originally Posted by Tichondrius
- Microsoft doesn't support Blu-Ray. What was Dell thinking???
Microsoft is a software company, not a multimedia content comapny. And it's also not an electronics manufacturer. So it's mostly out of the loop in this war. They only got involved with the HD player for XBOX360. As far as corporate support, there is a large majority for movie studio and eletronics manufacturers supporting BD. |
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Originally Posted by Tichondrius
- Too expensive. No DVD backwards compatibility requirement. = higher costs.
Neither format is compatible with DVD. But most BD and HD players can still play DVDs. |
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Originally Posted by Tichondrius
- Toshiba and Sony in talks to combine efforts, which may mean both standards will dissappear.. Ut Oh!
Marketplace news for you: In Jan 2007, BD outsold HD 2 to 1. As of Feb 2007 there are more BD titles available. All major studios execpt universal support BD. Many new realeases are published on BD at the same time as on DVD. |
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
.... Sony is trying an ad campaign saying that they won the format war and they are basing that on January sales figures. They might be in for a surprise with February figures due to the sales of Babel and The Departed on HD-DVD.
The porn industry is starting to roll out on HD-DVD as well and I think that will hurt Sony just like it did in the VHS Beta wars. Who knows... we will all have to wait and see... |
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
Sure... but that was developed by Sony and Philips vs. Sony only.
Some of the Sony propietary formats that are/were a failure: Betamax AIT Tape UMD Memory Sticks |
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
Again... I have both BD & HD-DVD but I think HD-DVD will win this war. Sony is trying an ad campaign saying that they won the format war and they are basing that on January sales figures. They might be in for a surprise with February figures due to the sales of Babel and The Departed on HD-DVD.
The porn industry is starting to roll out on HD-DVD as well and I think that will hurt Sony just like it did in the VHS Beta wars. Who knows... we will all have to wait and see... |
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Originally Posted by yellowlt4
Thats not relevant since Blu-ray is NOT a Sony only format. It has more industry support than HD DVD and its main backers are Matsushita, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung and Sony to name a few.
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Yes, there are many big names involved in the Blu-ray Disc Association (developers of BD 'spearheaded' by Sony) Don't forget some of the companies behind HD-DVD... Toshiba NEC Corp Microsoft Intel Granted, they are just little companies with no power at all 
Again... I said I have both formats so I really do not give a 
who wins the war, I just want it overwith so I can be more comfortable purchasing the product knowing that it is here to stay. I tried investing in Sony... I owned a F'n Betamax for Gods sake!!! There was 'some' porn on beta also but VHS won due to supply & demand which is driven by PRICE $$$$. I think Sony is starting to realize that they need to drop prices to win this thing. My drive is bigger than your drive... na na na na na 
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
Yea... OK... whatever... BD fanboy...
You do not think it is relevant... backing a company pushing a format that has failed so many times trying to start their own formats. Yes, there are many big names involved in the Blu-ray Disc Association (developers of BD 'spearheaded' by Sony) Don't forget some of the companies behind HD-DVD... Toshiba NEC Corp Microsoft Intel Granted, they are just little companies with no power at all Again... I said I have both formats so I really do not give a who wins the war, I just want it overwith so I can be more comfortable purchasing the product knowing that it is here to stay.I tried investing in Sony... I owned a F'n Betamax for Gods sake!!! There was 'some' porn on beta also but VHS won due to supply & demand which is driven by PRICE $$$$. I think Sony is starting to realize that they need to drop prices to win this thing. My drive is bigger than your drive... na na na na na |
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Originally Posted by yellowlt4
Fan boy thats funny , I am far from a BD Fan boy, I only own HD DVD (a Toshiba XA1, great peice of hardware BTW) at the current time (I will likely get a BD burner for work in the coming weeks) and I don't currently own any Sony products. I did have Betamax and it served me well for many years since renting was all we did in those days. Second, you were the one who stated that the success of the CD was not relevant since it was co-developed with Philips. Since Blu-ray is also NOT a Sony only product I feel that it is relevant to this discussion. I was simply stating that Sony has had sucess in formats and all indications at the present time are that BD (co-developed with Matsushita, Pioneer and Samsung) will also succeed, it may not win the war but it will succeed. I also never said Toshiba was going at it alone and yes there is money and strong companies behind HD but they simply don't have the same support that BD has at the current time. I think the consumers are going to be the ones to lose this format war because it isn't going to end any time soon and we will likely have 2 more dead formats like SACD and DVD-A.
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Bottom line... this subject has been beaten to death in many threads already.
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
Ah... you are one of those oversensitive people that have to get the last word. I never said this and I never said that and you said that I said.. everyone is wrong and I'm right and I don't even have the drive... blah blah blah... me me me... OK... go ahead and respond one more time so you can get the last word.
Bottom line... this subject has been beaten to death in many threads already. |
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Originally Posted by hehaw
Look ppl to put it simply and to end all arguments you have to look at the bigger picture, who is going to sell more BD or HD? Ansewer BD. Why? Because in three or four years time the PS3 will be the biggest selling console yet again thus more ppl will buy BD movies, it's just the fate of BD, so deal with it and begin to learn to live with it.
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As I've said, I have both formats. I can watch Hi Def versions of Full Metal Jacket [HD-DVD] , V for Vendetta [HD-DVD] & Army of Darkness [HD-DVD] one day... Black Hawk Down [Blu-ray] and Resident Evil - Apocalypse [Blu-ray] the next 
I do have to say, if BD wins the format war, I would probably purchase a PS3 vs. just a player to get the benefit of the gaming system as well. I have a 360 right now. I do prefer the feel of the 360 controller over the PS3 though.|
Originally Posted by zzpulp
have to say this but why would the ps3 suddenly take the lead? Unless they lower the cost to oh say $275-$350 they arent gonna be taking any leads imo Edit: They should have just stayed on the gameplay side of the market like nintendo but nooo, they just had to be better then M$ in every way: graphics, HD, price (joke)....every way except sells
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
I'm just playing devil's advocate and getting people worked up...
As I've said, I have both formats. I can watch Hi Def versions of Full Metal Jacket [HD-DVD] , V for Vendetta [HD-DVD] & Army of Darkness [HD-DVD] one day... Black Hawk Down [Blu-ray] and Resident Evil - Apocalypse [Blu-ray] the next I do have to say, if BD wins the format war, I would probably purchase a PS3 vs. just a player to get the benefit of the gaming system as well. I have a 360 right now. I do prefer the feel of the 360 controller over the PS3 though. |
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Originally Posted by hehaw
I have to say though, but when the 360 came out I got all exited and was well impressed with the 360, but when you compare it now to Sony and Nintendo it comes out third in terms of technology and inovation. I fear for the 360, it could turn out to have the same fate as the gamecube, though I hope it doesnt, I seem to have a soft spot for the 360, but they really need to pull something out of the bag to keep up with Sony and Nintendo.
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Originally Posted by hehaw
No if you read again what I said c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y you will notice that I did'nt say that the PS3 will suddenly take the lead, but it will take maby 3-4 years to edge the lead, and yes consoles always lower there prices as they get on.
And what do you mean by sony should stay on the gameplay side of things? Sony's games will be just as fun and just as interactive as the Nintendo, if not more so. And I dont know anyone who thinks that advancing the technology further is a bad thing, even if it does cost a fair bit more |
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
As much as I would like to go back and forth on which is better, 360 vs. PS3 vs. Wii, this is a BD thread and we already went off topic playing the HD-DVD vs. BD game.
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