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The Ultimate Doom3/HL2 Laptop

post #1 of 49
3/16/04 at 5:51am
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Sorry about the misleading thread, I don't have and/or know of one yet. But this is my quest. See, I am in the Navy. I am underway a lot. When there is no work, there is not a whole lot to do. 1 TV for a whole shop (12 people) in a room no bigger than 8'x15' that is filled with electronic repair crap. 2 computers w/ email but no games . Not real a whole lot to do. We are doing little week long underway now, and it would be really nice to get a laptop now.

The 8790 is really nice. But even with the great M11 256mb, I have a feeling that it might not be able to play DOOM3/HL2 in ALL its glory. Both DOOM3 and HL2 are going to be very taxing on the rendering pipeline. And ATI's M11 only has 4 pipes to play with. This is a biggbottle neck.

On the plus side i realy don't need it now, I think i can wait. I am getting mairried in June. And I think i can make do with just my PDA on the dumb a$$ weeklong underways. So unless something truly awesome comes out, I think I will have to wait until after the wedding. Shortly after I will be heading out on deployment. So my goal purchase date is around June15-20. I have money now, but I will have more then .

This is what I need in a laptop.
* Big'O'Hard-Drive +150GB (8790 w/ raid is really nice)
* Kick A$$ GPU (something that will handle Doom3 around 60FPS with everything maxed out)
*Decent CPU + RAM

This is what I can do with out
* Battery Life (where ever I am going to use it, it is going to plugged in)
* Ultra Light/Portable (It is not going great distances, so I don't care if it is 20#'s)

Hopefully I will be able to get a 64-bit laptop with a PCI-E GPU & High Qualitiy Audio . Please any comments or suggestions
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post #2 of 49
3/16/04 at 6:19am
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Originally Posted by angryshoe
Sorry about the misleading thread, I don't have and/or know of one yet. But this is my quest. See, I am in the Navy. I am underway a lot. When there is no work, there is not a whole lot to do. 1 TV for a whole shop (12 people) in a room no bigger than 8'x15' that is filled with electronic repair crap. 2 computers w/ email but no games . Not real a whole lot to do. We are doing little week long underway now, and it would be really nice to get a laptop now.

The 8790 is really nice. But even with the great M11 256mb, I have a feeling that it might not be able to play DOOM3/HL2 in ALL its glory. Both DOOM3 and HL2 are going to be very taxing on the rendering pipeline. And ATI's M11 only has 4 pipes to play with. This is a biggbottle neck.

On the plus side i realy don't need it now, I think i can wait. I am getting mairried in June. And I think i can make do with just my PDA on the dumb a$$ weeklong underways. So unless something truly awesome comes out, I think I will have to wait until after the wedding. Shortly after I will be heading out on deployment. So my goal purchase date is around June15-20. I have money now, but I will have more then .

This is what I need in a laptop.
* Big'O'Hard-Drive +150GB (8790 w/ raid is really nice)
* Kick A$$ GPU (something that will handle Doom3 around 60FPS with everything maxed out)
*Decent CPU + RAM

This is what I can do with out
* Battery Life (where ever I am going to use it, it is going to plugged in)
* Ultra Light/Portable (It is not going great distances, so I don't care if it is 20#'s)

Hopefully I will be able to get a 64-bit laptop with a PCI-E GPU & High Qualitiy Audio . Please any comments or suggestions
If you are waiting for a laptop that will play DOOM 3 at 60fps maxed out you might be waiting for at least a year. I seriously doubt that a high end desktop with a 9800xt would be able to run at 60fps maxed out. Then again they actually might have coded the game to work well on most upper end systems. I am hoping so because I am getting an 8790 in a couple weeks. Bottom line is if you wait for the next best thing you are always going to be waiting.
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post #3 of 49
3/16/04 at 6:22am
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Doom3 was made to run on a GeForce2 as a min. So i don't think a laptop i todaly unresonably, in a few months
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post #4 of 49
3/16/04 at 6:35am
considering an 8790? read:

www.widescreengamingforum.com

.... enlightening.
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post #5 of 49
3/16/04 at 9:27am
Pardon me..

It sounds like you should get a desktop..

"* Big'O'Hard-Drive +150GB (8790 w/ raid is really nice)"

Yes, I know you can raid.. but,


"* Battery Life (where ever I am going to use it, it is going to plugged in)
* Ultra Light/Portable (It is not going great distances, so I don't care if it is 20#'s)"

Aren't those what laptops are designed for? Battery and Portability? I suggest building a nice desktop ~1800, and you can get a hell of a desktop with that, and then buy a cheap laptop for portability, word processing, internet surfing, etc.

Just my thoughts, not being rude.
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post #6 of 49
3/16/04 at 10:15am
As has been shown in the currently ongoing 'rethink the laptop' thread, there are some people who want power with some minor degree of portability. I have an 8890 and I appreciate the ability to move around the house, but I only need the battery so I can move from power point to power point, and the weight isnt really important to me.

Having said that, if it really isnt going to move out of one place and you do crave performance, then a desktop might make more sense, that's assuming you have a desk and not just a bunk
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post #7 of 49
3/16/04 at 10:21am
Shuttle is an idea, but I've heard weird things about them.

You see, what us gamers want, is everything in 1 package. Having the monitor connected to the computer is cool.

Lunchbox is also an idea, but like someone else said, they're built flimsy and don't have the big screen.

I think the 8790 will be able to play HL2 and D3. Maybe not maxed out, but pretty close.
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post #8 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:14pm
There is absolutely no way that you will be able to purchase a laptop in the timeframe that you said... that will play Doom 3 and HL2 in ALL its glory. Nope. Sorry... no can do. There arent going to be many improvements from now (march) till your selected date. Notebooks will pretty much still be the same in terms of technology.

However... best bet is to get something like the 8790. I believe it is the best packaged notebook with the most power out there right now I believe. I would tell you to take a look at the new voodoo running an amd and a 9700, but I think I read it was 5000 haha.
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post #9 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:25pm
I configured it to $3300 with kick ass spec's. If it was available somewhere else for cheaper I would consider it. It sucks, my 8890 is only about 5 months old.
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post #10 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by Nandro
I configured it to $3300 with kick ass spec's. If it was available somewhere else for cheaper I would consider it. It sucks, my 8890 is only about 5 months old.
Are you talking about the new voodoo?
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post #11 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:38pm
Yes, with a 3200+ 60G 7200rpm and the 128 radeon 9700
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post #12 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:40pm
It looks like a really nice notebook.
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post #13 of 49
3/16/04 at 1:42pm
Yea.... anyone want a used 8890??? Like new condition.
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post #14 of 49
3/16/04 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Robert602
Having said that, if it really isnt going to move out of one place and you do crave performance, then a desktop might make more sense, that's assuming you have a desk and not just a bunk
I have been looking in to this for a while now (DEC02) I was originally going to go SFF (i.e. Shuttle, iDEQ). But even they are too big. I can't leave my computer out. I need to be able to put it away. And as you guessed, I only have a bunk. It is 16cm height. The smallest shuttle is 18.5cm height. The Acer 1710 looked almost perfect. It is too bad you can't configure it. I would put a 300gb HD, some better Ram, and of course a better GPU. Even if I can't get my ideal laptop by then, I will have to settle. I need one before I leave so if it does not exist yet, I will have to get the closest thing. As if my quest was not hard enough I also don't want to spend much more than $3000. I think the 8790 is the closest thing right now. Hopefully something better will be out before then.
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post #15 of 49
3/16/04 at 9:16pm
... the closest game right now to any of the new age games are

far Cry
UT04
and
AQUA
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post #16 of 49
3/16/04 at 10:16pm
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Originally Posted by Q-Ball
... the closest game right now to any of the new age games are

far Cry
UT04
and
AQUA
how does these go on the 8790?
fps etc?
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post #17 of 49
3/16/04 at 10:57pm
Not a clue but ill find out i hope
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post #18 of 49
3/21/04 at 2:20am
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Has anybody heard any news/rumers about future sagers
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post #19 of 49
3/21/04 at 2:50am
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Originally Posted by ifrit
considering an 8790? read:

www.widescreengamingforum.com

.... enlightening.
COuld you be a little more specific about what they're sayong on the Windescreengaming forum about the 8790s? I searched for 8790 and didn't come up with a whole lot.

Thanks,

Dees
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post #20 of 49
3/21/04 at 3:41am
Hey I know where your coming from, was on the Lincoln for the Gulf Part I. Nothing like having 7 people crammed into a space not much bigger then a jail cell. But woo you have two computers and a TV, your living high on the hog then.

either the 4780 or the 8790 will work just fine for doom 3 or hl2. I know Battlefield vietnam works wonderfully with my machine and the new ut works fine also, so you should be safe with either of those two, or even any laptop sager makes with atleast a 9600.
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