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post #301 of 1404
were talking about the 90watt supply not being enough to handle the GS overclocks? which might make sense why else would the xps come with a 130watt.

-steve

i remember the first gen XPS laptop had a 150 watt supply.
post #302 of 1404
Got 4799 in 3DMark06 with 580/1600 and original Dell drivers. Tried to rise up the processor speed but getting artifacts above 580.
My system is 1705 1.83Gb 2Gb 677 memory 7900gs
What do you guys think about the score?
post #303 of 1404
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Originally Posted by chezouff
were talking about the 90watt supply not being enough to handle the GS overclocks? which might make sense why else would the xps come with a 130watt.

-steve

i remember the first gen XPS laptop had a 150 watt supply.
What? Why not? Overclocking a video card doesn't add voltage.
post #304 of 1404
i just flashed too and dont have any problem running HIGH RES from hdd no stutters.
post #305 of 1404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disillusion
What? Why not? Overclocking a video card doesn't add voltage.
eehhh, off course it does ! why xps gen comes with a 150 W supply, is that go7800gtx use 65 W. m1710 comes with a 130 W supply and have go7900gtx or go7950gtx who use 45 W and 9400 comes with a 90 W supply and have go7900gs who use only 20 W IF you gone use 1.24 flash and high OC you can easily frie your 90 W supply.
post #306 of 1404
is it possible to oc the 7950gtx? anyone had any successful timings etc...
Also anyone have a link to enable coolbits in Vista64.
Thanks,
Josh
post #307 of 1404
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Originally Posted by joshmnx
is it possible to oc the 7950gtx? anyone had any successful timings etc...
Also anyone have a link to enable coolbits in Vista64.
Thanks,
Josh

People say it's possible:
http://www.notebookforums.com/post2515598-69.html

The ISO image from http://home.tele2.es/jlgm/peng.html contains unlocked BIOS for 7950 GTX (795GTXUN.ROM).

About coolbits on Vista x64 - I don't think they work with the latest generation drivers. Try tools like nTune, RivaTuner etc. Probably o/c on Vista x64 won't be available till there aren't official drivers from NVIDIA.

Please post about your experience w/ 7950 GTX BIOS flash & overclocking, I intend to flash mine in the next 2-3 days.
post #308 of 1404
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Originally Posted by putkinen
eehhh, off course it does ! why xps gen comes with a 150 W supply, is that go7800gtx use 65 W. m1710 comes with a 130 W supply and have go7900gtx or go7950gtx who use 45 W and 9400 comes with a 90 W supply and have go7900gs who use only 20 W IF you gone use 1.24 flash and high OC you can easily frie your 90 W supply.
Overclocking, by itself, does NOT add voltage. If you add voltage through a BIOS flash, that's different. Overclocking only raises clock speeds. The reason the XPS comes with a bigger power supply is because their video cards use more power.
post #309 of 1404
I need some quick advice. With the 7900GTX bios on my E1705 with 7900gs I can hit like 855 on my memory. I flashed to the Unlocked GS bios fine, but my memory is limited to 800mhz in Nvidia control panel and 750mhz in RivaTuner. How the heck to I increase the memory to 855 or more? Thanks in advance.
post #310 of 1404
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Originally Posted by roumensp
People say it's possible: Please post about your experience w/ 7950 GTX BIOS flash & overclocking, I intend to flash mine in the next 2-3 days.
Works fine Flashed today my 7950gtx with the 795GTXUN.ROM and overclocked to 664/784 (nvidia optimal setting). Here the results with overclocked CPU @ 3.16 1. @1024x768 2. @1280x1024 (default 3dmark06) 3. @1920x1200
LL
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post #311 of 1404
So is it beneficial to flash the 7900GS with the 7950 BIOS? I'm using the 7900GTX BIOS right now on my 7900GS, and I've been able to hit 645 core, 845 memory using the BIOS flashes. Will flashing a 7950 BIOS give me even better performance?
post #312 of 1404
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Originally Posted by ROLC
So is it beneficial to flash the 7900GS with the 7950 BIOS? I'm using the 7900GTX BIOS right now on my 7900GS, and I've been able to hit 645 core, 845 memory using the BIOS flashes. Will flashing a 7950 BIOS give me even better performance?

flash whit 7950 bios is dangerous....BLACK SCREEN
post #313 of 1404
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Originally Posted by andre25
flash whit 7950 bios is dangerous....BLACK SCREEN

Ah, ok. Thanks for clarification.
post #314 of 1404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disillusion
Overclocking, by itself, does NOT add voltage. If you add voltage through a BIOS flash, that's different. Overclocking only raises clock speeds.

The reason the XPS comes with a bigger power supply is because their video cards use more power.

Umm, you don't need to increase the voltage to draw more power. Overclocking, even when it doesn't increase voltage, ALWAYS increases power usage.

When you overclock components, they get hotter. And where do you think that heat comes from? You don't get more heat unless you're drawing more power. So of course, you're going to draw a lot more than 20W for the 7900gs if you're overclocking it, even without increasing the voltage.

Except, we ARE increasing the voltage, from 1.00v up to 1.24v. Since we're overclocking AND volt modding, the increase in power drain is quite significant. And if you run the i9400 at 600/800 (1.24v) and use up 100% of both cores of a 2.16GHz Core 2 Duo CPU, and the power supply is in a warm room (perhaps on carpet), it WILL fail (temporarily).

Also, don't forget, power supplies provide LESS power the hotter they get. That's one of the problems with cheap noname ATX power supplies. They say 350w, sure, but that's 350w at perhaps 25 degrees. Once they get into operation and hit 40 or 45 degrees, they provide significantly less. Good companies like Antec specify capacity at operating temperature, not room temperature. The i9400's power supply gets pretty damned hot when you're running a game at 600/800.
post #315 of 1404
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Originally Posted by Guspaz
Umm, you don't need to increase the voltage to draw more power. Overclocking, even when it doesn't increase voltage, ALWAYS increases power usage.

When you overclock components, they get hotter. And where do you think that heat comes from? You don't get more heat unless you're drawing more power. So of course, you're going to draw a lot more than 20W for the 7900gs if you're overclocking it, even without increasing the voltage.

Except, we ARE increasing the voltage, from 1.00v up to 1.24v. Since we're overclocking AND volt modding, the increase in power drain is quite significant. And if you run the i9400 at 600/800 (1.24v) and use up 100% of both cores of a 2.16GHz Core 2 Duo CPU, and the power supply is in a warm room (perhaps on carpet), it WILL fail (temporarily).

Also, don't forget, power supplies provide LESS power the hotter they get. That's one of the problems with cheap noname ATX power supplies. They say 350w, sure, but that's 350w at perhaps 25 degrees. Once they get into operation and hit 40 or 45 degrees, they provide significantly less. Good companies like Antec specify capacity at operating temperature, not room temperature. The i9400's power supply gets pretty damned hot when you're running a game at 600/800.
Got any proof that overclocking (all by itself) increases heat and power usage? My video card doesn't run any hotter or use any more power overclocked than it does at stock speeds.
post #316 of 1404
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Originally Posted by Disillusion
Got any proof that overclocking (all by itself) increases heat and power usage? My video card doesn't run any hotter or use any more power overclocked than it does at stock speeds.
Well the simplest way to prove that overclocking by it self increases heat and power consumption is to watch the temp graph of Ati tool. If the temp increases faster at higher clocks that would most likely be the case.
post #317 of 1404
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Originally Posted by Rasken
Well the simplest way to prove that overclocking by it self increases heat and power consumption is to watch the temp graph of Ati tool. If the temp increases faster at higher clocks that would most likely be the case.
Unless GPUs are somehow different that CPUs when overclocking, from my experience and from what I've always been told, overclocking by itself does not increase temperatures by anything drastic. It might increase the temps by a few degrees, but voltage is what really increases the temps by a lot.

But the whole argument that overclocking increases power usage is just completely untrue.
post #318 of 1404
wondering about one thing.
why dont you guys who have go7900gs use the go7900gs flash ? (its made for that)
dont you get enough with gaming power or ? (you should do).
post #319 of 1404
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disillusion
Unless GPUs are somehow different that CPUs when overclocking, from my experience and from what I've always been told, overclocking by itself does not increase temperatures by anything drastic. It might increase the temps by a few degrees, but voltage is what really increases the temps by a lot.

But the whole argument that overclocking increases power usage is just completely untrue.


Your wrong about clockspeed

Flash your card to higher clocks (not voltage or memory timings)
Run ATI tool and monitor max temp

Higher clocks, higher temp. Flash it high enough and your card will reach its throttle limit. The temp difference between stock clocks & overclock is notable (and so is the comparable 3dmark benchmarks)

I know on my 7800gtx I had to back down the clocks a bit. With higher clocks I wasnt getting artifacts on ATI tool test runs, but after a long time running FEAR the temp would creep up to the throttling limit and the card downshifts and lower FPS

These clocks I max @ 101degc which is in range for an 7800gtx and its been running quite happily there for over a year.

My card just gets to do a clock flash so I dont have the experience of messing with timings that 7900/7950 users have.
post #320 of 1404
I cant flash my GS with the GTX bios. Whenever i try it it says GPU mismatch error and there is no press y to confirm. I was able to flash fine before my harddrive got wiped. I dont see why it wouldnt work now. Can someone help me?
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