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post #361 of 1404
1/8/07 at 10:48pm
all i will say is that K-pop is right. others may believe it or not, but hes right.
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post #362 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:01am
Well its just odd that my card runs hot as hell, and i've volt-modded it down to 1.05v...
I'm not seeing mid 80's temps with the undervolt, and I've done many things to lower my temps, in addition to running on a cooling-pad as well.
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post #363 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by yolda
all i will say is that K-pop is right. others may believe it or not, but hes right.

Dang, my wife doesn't even have that kind of confidence in me!

Everything I give you guys.. everything I say on here I back up with my own testing and research. If I happen to find something that works well for me, I jump right in to share it with everybody. It just so happens that my testing with the VID's showed an improvement in temperatures each level I stepped down. Also, if VID7 for instance, was ALWAYS going to be 1.24V no matter what I change the label to, then my system shouldn't lock up on me if I set that label to 1.02V... but guess what, it does. 1.03V I can open up a 3D application for just seconds before it locks up on me. 1.04V doesn't lock up on me in my testing, but to be safe I chose 1.05V.

Maybe I am totally nuts and everything that I have confirmed through testing has been a big fluke. Sure it could happen, and I will make it very clear to everybody here that I may very well not be right about my findings. I don't know everything, and I will never claim to know everything. When I find something of interest, I make sure to share it with everybody. Of course there will always be somebody telling me I am wrong, but that's life. If somebody can show me HARD evidence that I am wrong, then I will tuck my tail between my legs and pout for a while . By HARD evidence, I mean show me with a voltmeter that a 7900go GS cannot use any other voltage than 1.0V and 1.24V. Then I will chalk everything up as a big fluke and move on.
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post #364 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:39am
k-pop could you mail me your rom? i use one just alike but i want to check out if we had some diff in the settings. Its not overconfidence lol i tested it too and it works :P
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post #365 of 1404
1/9/07 at 3:48am
Well I've gone and flashed my bios a few times (again) tonight, and I tried a plethora of different voltages and settings. I ended up giving up, and I decided to flash my BIOS back to the old 600/800 rom that Krayziepop had posted a while back on the original GSX thread as a sort of a final desperation move. I did some thorough testing and found my temps had actually dropped. I went back to check my settings, and I left VID07 @ 1 volt, and reflashed my card with Juan's rom, and everything worked again. As soon as I changed my VID07 voltage to anything but 1v, the card returned back to its 1.24v temperatures.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before (perhaps I never caught onto it), but VID07 for me HAS TO STAY at 1v. I figured that if I could run my card at less than 1.24v for the full clocks, that I could downclock my VID07 voltages slightly.
So for those who have had trouble getting lower temps with the undervolting, try leaving your VID07 at 1v.
Thanks to Yolda, Kpop, and the countless others who have given advice. Hope this helps some of you.

If some of you are curious about my temperatures...
ATiTool (20 minute scan): 85-87 degrees (originally 92 degrees peak /w VID07 set at 0.9v)
Rainbow Six - Vegas: 88 degrees after 30 minutes of play (originally 91-92 degrees peak /w VID07 set at 0.9v)
Quake 4: 84 degrees after 2 hours of play
TES4 Oblivion: 85 degrees after 30 minutes
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post #366 of 1404
1/9/07 at 8:19am
NEED HELP PLEASE.
what am i doing wrong.

i follow the steps. after i reboot from dvd-cd-rw , i came in to the BIOS.

BUT after i type nvflash 790GSUON.ROM i couldnt confirm.

how do i confirm (with Y, i know but how)

look like this inside the BIOS

C>: (something ) where do i type Y ??????????????????????????

are i doing right ??????????

ps. when i burn the jlmod iso ver.4 , should i burn just (for example) one file, like 790gsuov OR should i burn all of it (i burned all of it)

please help me.
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post #367 of 1404
1/9/07 at 9:52am
c:\nvflash -4 -5 -6 xxx.rom
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post #368 of 1404
1/9/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by jcwk
c:\ vflash -4 -5 -6 xxx.rom
ok i dont understand what you mean with -4 -5 -6 ??? if i want to type : nvflash 790GSUON.ROM where and how do i type that. is it after C:< and after i type nvflash 790GSUON.ROM , when and where do i type Y ???????? one last thing. how can i see that i have the new BIOS (can i see that in the controll panel, or maybe if i use Everest) Everest says the bios version is: 5.71.22.16.13 (someone now whats the new bios version is ?)
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post #369 of 1404
1/9/07 at 10:28am
Thread Starter 
To everybody!! Please read THIS carefully.
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post #370 of 1404
1/9/07 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by debaucher
Yea Rasken, this is basically how I have my modded 7900GS rom set up *except 1.24v on vid4.
Maybe I should edit the OC unlocked bios's on this thread to have the same VID's as my custom one and see how they fair.
I was just getting a bit tired of reloading over and over last night and decided to give it a rest.


oh, and one more thing Rasken... in which order do you have your VID's listed within the bios?
As in the order you listed them here, or VID4, 7, 3 etc...
Just want to try some things out.

TIA
D.
I have the VIDs in the order i wrote them from top to bottom.

I also discovered that my VIDs only change between 7 and 4 according to Riva tuner. It never steps down to VID 3.

Wonder why?
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post #371 of 1404
1/9/07 at 12:03pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rasken
I have the VIDs in the order i wrote them from top to bottom. I also discovered that my VIDs only change between 7 and 4 according to Riva tuner. It never steps down to VID 3. Wonder why?
If i have just put the post in which i explain this!!! Please read more and ask less.. More information that does not seem to be clear.. Phrases like.. "my 3D clockspeed refuses to step down with the original bios..." are not completely correct. VID0, VID1, VID2, VID3 = 1V VID4, VID5, VID6, VID7 = 1,24V There aren't any more available voltages "...You must note that the voltage label is not responsible for the output voltage, it is only used by the driver to select correct VID..." (the creator of nibitor) See here This is for 7900gs and 7900gtx. The 7950gtx has a new regulator of voltage with three voltages available. Why? 3 2 1 (bit) -------- 0 0 0 -> VID0 0 0 1 -> VID1 0 1 0 -> VID2 0 1 1 -> VID3 1 0 0 -> VID4 1 0 1 -> VID5 1 1 0 -> VID6 1 1 1 -> VID7 X The third bit (X) is the one that changes the voltage of the regulator of voltage. The second bit and the first one do not do anything. With the original bios and changing the vid of 3D clockspeed I obtain: (cube of atitools) -Vid0 ->74º -Vid1 ->74º -Vid2 ->74º -Vid3 ->74º -Vid4 ->80º -Vid5 ->80º -Vid6 ->80º -Vid7 ->80º Rivatuner shows the following thing in a Gs or Gtx: CLOSE LID MASK = 011 OPEN LID MASK = 111 Closed lid: [CLOSE LID MASK] AND [0, bit1 2D VID, bit0 2D VID] = [VID that show Rivatuner]. 011 -> CLOSE LID MASK 011 -> 2D VID (Vid3 In our case) ----- 011 -> Vid3 (gs and gtx) Opened lid + idle: [OPEN LID MASK] AND [1, bit1 2D VID, bit0 2D VID] = [VID that show Rivatuner]. 111 -> OPEN LID MASK 111 -> 2D VID (Vid3 In our case) ----- 111 -> Vid7 (gs and gtx) Opened lid + load: [OPEN LID MASK] AND [1, bit1 3D VID, bit0 3D VID] = [VID that show Rivatuner]. 111 -> OPEN LID MASK 111 -> 3D VID (Vid3 In our case) ----- 111 -> Vid7 (gs) 111 -> Voltaje alto 111 -> 3D VID (Vid7 In our case) ----- 111 -> Vid7 (gtx) For this motive there are people who thinks that the graphics card always is in 3D but is not true. If you want to verify it, try this bios in your gs. The unique difference with the original are the chosen vids. 2D and THRTL --> VID1 (1v) 3D ----------------> VID7 (1,24v) Rivatuner shows: Closed lid 011 001 ----- 001 -> Vid1 Opened lid + idle 111 101 ----- 101 -> Vid 5 Opened lid + load 111 111 ----- 111 -> Vid 7
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post #372 of 1404
1/9/07 at 12:07pm
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME. PLEASE.

it look like this:

c:\< nvflash 790GSUON.ROM<nvflash 790gsuon.rom=""><nvflash 790gsuon.rom="">

then what, should i type Y, should i wait, should i press enter, what should i do.
(when is this Y coming)

please help me.</nvflash></nvflash>
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post #373 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:13pm
Putkinen:
After you type in: nvflash 790GSUON.ROM, it will ask you to hit 'y' to confirm the flash.
You must enter in 'y' in order to flash your bios. You can't miss it, you will be asked to confirm whether or not you want to flash your BIOS with the rom.
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post #374 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:26pm
its working now, yyiippiieeeeeeeeeeee.

one thing, i oC with 84.69 (from laptopvideo2go) with modded inf, works fine , BUT when i press optimal freqvens, it says only 448/652.......WHY

i want to OC to 550/600 (something).

maybe if i use rivatuner i can OC more (or atitool).

i used 1 volt flash, must i use 1.24 volt flash to get i higher "optinal freqvens" ??????

thanks everbody
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post #375 of 1404
1/9/07 at 1:53pm
Yes, your card needs higher voltages in order to get better clock settings.
You should do more testing than just hitting optimal frequencies. It is a good start to use that, but start moving the sliders for core and memory settings around and do benchmarks in order to get an idea of how well your card can perform under 1v. If you are dissatisfied with your OC settings, you can use a 1.24v flash to get higher clocks, at the cost of having higher temperatures and battery usage.
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post #376 of 1404
1/9/07 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by BrotherKung
Yes, your card needs higher voltages in order to get better clock settings. You should do more testing than just hitting optimal frequencies. It is a good start to use that, but start moving the sliders for core and memory settings around and do benchmarks in order to get an idea of how well your card can perform under 1v. If you are dissatisfied with your OC settings, you can use a 1.24v flash to get higher clocks, at the cost of having higher temperatures and battery usage.
so atitool will not give me higher optimal freqvens ??????? (opimal freqvens is now 448/652, with 84.69 with modded inf) BUT if i flash with 1.24 volt instead, will the optimal feqvens get higher (very strange i think). how much higher temp will 1.24 gives. (have fine temp now) ps. can i OC higher then 448/652 (optimal freq) with current flash ? (or MUST i change to 1.24 volt) edit. offcourse i can, he he. BUT is it good for the card (have to monitor temps,)
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post #377 of 1404
1/9/07 at 2:41pm
I don't know if you can OC higher, you have to test it out yourself. Some people with the 1.24v hit 90 degrees and above when gaming. If you're happy with your performance now @ 1v, keep it there.
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post #378 of 1404
1/9/07 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by BrotherKung
I don't know if you can OC higher, you have to test it out yourself. Some people with the 1.24v hit 90 degrees and above when gaming. If you're happy with your performance now @ 1v, keep it there.
i cant go higher then 455/655, BUT i get really high scores in 3dmark05 (nearlly 8000) and the temp never goes over 60 C in 3dmark (thats really good). is it safe to flash once more time (maybe i flash to 1.24 volt, not sure, works really good now) i still cant belive that 1.24 volt will get a higher optimal freqvens. how can it be so.
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post #379 of 1404
1/9/07 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Rasken
Me and som other people in this forum dont agree with that.

I have tried

VID 3 = 0.95v
VID 7 = 1.0v
VID 4 = 1.24v

Resulted in peek temps at 87c but the powerbrick was almost smoking after 2h gaming.

Vent down to VID4 = 1.1v and now GPU temp peek att 83 and powerbrick stays cool.
If it went back to 1.0v why would i get higher temps than the original GS bios and lower than the 1.24v bios?


By what you wrote here, I take it that your testing is not very consistent. First of all, you need to use a test like 3dmark03/05 nature or ATI tool and loop it for about 30 minutes to an hour to test properly (that is, you need a consistent test, not "about 2 hours of gaming"). Secondly, 1.1 V entered in the bios does NOT give you 1.1 volts. E-mail the original creator of nibitor, who has tested lots of video cards, and see what he has to say about this. I'm not an expert, but after much testing I have seen that the greatest problem is placebo when involved with a lot of these bios flashes.
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post #380 of 1404
1/9/07 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by ciVick_EX
By what you wrote here, I take it that your testing is not very consistent. First of all, you need to use a test like 3dmark03/05 nature or ATI tool and loop it for about 30 minutes to an hour to test properly (that is, you need a consistent test, not "about 2 hours of gaming"). Secondly, 1.1 V entered in the bios does NOT give you 1.1 volts. E-mail the original creator of nibitor, who has tested lots of video cards, and see what he has to say about this. I'm not an expert, but after much testing I have seen that the greatest problem is placebo when involved with a lot of these bios flashes.
Well I agree that I haven't spent a lot of time testing. I started of using Jokers ISO and flashed my card to 450/1100 at 1v. That gave me about 7400 3dmark05 Temps stayed at around 74c running Atitool for 1h. After that i tried Jokers Voltmoded bios. tried 575/1150 1.24v. gave me about 8200 3dmark05. So ran ATitool for 30 min rock solid. Temps increased to about 86-87C. No big deal but playing Oblivion for 2h and i could smell burned plastic. So i checked the power brick an wow that was hot. Tried the GTX bios after that but almost emediately followed Kraziepops advice to lower the VID to 1.05. Tried it at 600/800 but it gave me artifacts so i made my on rom an set it as i described erlier with clocks at 575/700 Just now i tried Juans optimized gtx bios VID 3 = 1v and VID 7 = 1.24v Tried clocks 600/800 and it seems ok. Ran Ati Tool for 15 min ( temp 81c ) with no problem and ran 3dmark05. Score 8965. Funny thing is that the powerbrick don't get as hot this time with 1.24v So is it the optimized bios that makes the card run cooler and draw less power? So far it looks as if U were right but I'm still happy =)
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