Linux Sucks - Page 5

Thanks for those names, I'll look them up! Been using Audition (or rather Cool Edit Pro) myself on PC (as well as ProTools on Mac in recent years), so yeah, if there is no support for VST/directX plugins (I'm using directX to VST adapter in Cool Edit) that could be a problem for me.

Vista launch will boost desktop Linux

"Linux Australia's Oxer believes that the next year and a half will be a very important time for the Linux and open source communities. "Right now is probably one of the biggest opportunities that Linux has had to make huge inroads on the desktop at a large scale corporate level … it will be very interesting to see what happens over the next 12-18 months. "It is going to be a really critical time that will lay out the computing landscape for many years to come," he added."

Its not that there is no support. It is much more that there is a severe lack of VSTs compiled for Linux. Most are for windows or mac obviously. Now that being said, you CAN run windows VSTs on linux, but it is tricky and is not garunteed to work. To give an example, I run Kontakt on my Linux machine(Currently in the process of rebuilding said machine). I tried SoundSoap but could not get useable results out of it, though I have recently signed up for Cedega, so I might try under that to see if I get better results. It really depends. There is another set of plugins for Linux called LADSPA, currently in the process of working on its second iteration. At any rate, the LADSPA plugs can do a fair amount, and are free, though there are certainly times where I come up short compared to certain VSTs. Seablade

By the way, I just read an email on the ardour lists that mentioend some work had been done on it for a windows port, but won't be commited anytimes soon(I am sure they want to get 2.0 out the door first) so eventually that may be an option on windows, though at the moment it is not.

For the record I prefer Ardour to Protools for a lot of my straight audio projects.

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To contribute to this audio discussion a bit, I'm getting very excited about this:
http://ubuntustudio.org/

I also just installed Beast and am interested in seeing if it's actually good:
http://beast.gtk.org

Heh if they used e17 instead of gnome I would love it

To go on another tangent, gentoo moved the e17 builds into their own overlay, making it very easy to sort out thus far. Since i just rebuilt my machine(again;() it was interesting to find out. But all the efl apps and such are all in there with it so its fun to see whats being developed for it.

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Just booted up Ubuntu 6.10 (DL'd from the 6.10 link, but setup said 6.06) yesterday for the 1st time on my 5760. Had DL'd/burnt Ubuntu last year, but never got around to messing w/ it. Had DL'd/burnt numerous distros over the past ~6-7 yrs, but never got around to messing w/ them as the setup seemed daunting (messing w/ partitions having my active Windows partitions on them, too). But the Live CD really was easy. Wireless didn't have drivers, nor did Bluetooth, but for a run-off-CD type deal, it was pretty slick.

Was going to go all the way and install it, but backed out when I got to the part where it wanted to resize my partition (single 100gb drive w/ no other partitions). As I hadn't done any reading up on partitioning/installs in ages and what the possible effects might be on my existing XP partition, I figured I could save it for later. If my Vista upgrade disc ever comes, maybe when I'm nuking everything, I'll throw Ubuntu on 1st and Vista 2nd (hopefully Vista doesn't complicate things much if I try that).

So far the only thing that really sucked, IMO, was that there was no Explorer view. I'm sure there are other ways of viewing files, so I need to spend some time w/ it getting used to how it works before any suckitude is reported. Looked pretty slick. Can definitely see myself using it if I can make the time to mess around w/ it (and not get scared off by all the command line stuff that I see people bandying about- I've never been a command line guy).

There are several different file managers to choose from, I can't remember if Gnome comes with a view for nautilus similar to explorer or not. I am trying out entropy on my desktop(e17) but Thunar which was written for XFCE seems to get a fair amount of widespread useage outside of XFCE. Not that neither of those solutions looks exactly like explorer, but take a look around for screenshots of file managers and see if there is one you like on Linux. Just because it doesn't come with Ubuntu doesn't mean you can't use it. Seablade

On the topic of installing...

If resizing your parition.. ALWAYS DEFRAG FIRST!

That out of the way, I generally reccomend people install Windows first and Linux second. The reasoning for this is that Windows has a nasty habit of always overwriting the MBR of whatever HD you install it on. As such if you install it last it is the only OS you will be able to access without some work.

Generally nowadays Linux installs do a good job of detecting other OSes like Windows and configuring Grub or Lilo, whichever they use, to allow you to select which you would like to boot easily. Does it always work? No. But it does have a pretty good track record these days. I don't know if anyone has tested out installers with a windows vista install though.

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FriedToast, what do you mean by "Explorer View"?

BT...i think what he means is youo know how Nautilus has 2 modes... one is where its almost mac OS-9 like where you get a small box window and when you open a new folder it pops up a new small window. and then it has the browser mode (i think thats what its called...currently in KDE so cant check) which is what Ubuntu 6.10 uses default. Not quite sure though.


BTW....I must give an absolutely excellent review of PCLinuxOS 2007-Alpha1. As you you know it came out a few days ago (after nearly a year of using .93 which was getting quite outdated). PCLOS2007 is working fantastic, very fast, very fast boot time (clocked in at 30sec, a week old install of XP boots in 22sec on my machine), great artwork, and as always everything just works. one word of warning : madwifi modules are not included on the cd of this release. another warning : package selection is currently somewhat limited since all the packages have to be rebuilt using gcc 4.1 (?) whereas before it used the 3.x series...but it is growing every day, and both problems should be resolved by the time the final release comes out (should be early next month)

Thanks for all the tips. I'm a complete and utter n00b at this, so I'll have to dig around and see what I can figure out when I get some time.

By "Explorer view," I meant the cascading folders view in Windows- usually on the L. side of the Explorer window where it shows folders in descending order.

Is this what you're trying for:
(if it is just change the setting above the tree view from places to tree)

Easy enough! Will try that next time I boot up

I'll try to keep the rest of my questions/comments to other threads. Didn't mean to hijack this one!

Thats ok I think we have highjacked this one about 20 times thus far, take a number

If that was all you were looking for, yes most File Managers on Linux can handle that, the easiest way to get it for Ubuntu would be to do as described above since that one is installed by default.

I can say Entropy follows that basic guideline(And BT since you asked me before about filemanagers in e17 Entropy is certainly one), while the build in file browser in e17 follows more along the lines of what ABF described. Entropy does have a nice dropdown box for selecting subfolders though, but I sitll wish they had finished implementing commanline support into evidence, I would have truly enjoyed that.

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Honestly, it's nice that this thread has some usefulness rather than people whining linux sucks and the rest of us being defensive.

You may want to experiment with the places view. Linux is a little different than Windows in that the desktop user really doesn't need to see the application and system directories. Linux keeps most config files (useful to the user) in the user's home directory. As a result you'll rarely have to browse to the /usr, /lib, /boot, etc., directories. (when you do want to browse those directories you usually do it as root through the commandline)

In the places view you can actually drag over "bookmarks" which are just shortcuts to other directories. I find that much more useful. I have a few samba shares linked there and a bunch of other directories I frequent, even ones outside of my home directory (like var/www). Makes browsing for commonly used folders very easy.