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post #21 of 47
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Originally Posted by galahad05
One thing you can try--to test out the IRQ=cause of your problem theory: temporarily disable your NIC (from your system properties), and see if the slowdown goes away.

nope, didn't solve the problem
post #22 of 47
What does your performance monitor show during these laggy spikes?

I'm especially interested in disk access, memory usage, cpu loading graph, and network bandwidth utilization.
post #23 of 47
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Originally Posted by galahad05
What does your performance monitor show during these laggy spikes?

I'm especially interested in disk access, memory usage, cpu loading graph, and network bandwidth utilization.





first pic is my problematic laptop, which jumps b/w 0% and 20% constantly
the next one is my desktop as a reference. seems much smoother, though its spec is probably worse, with more programs running

how do I show disk access and network bandwidth utilization? the network tab doesn't show anything
post #24 of 47
Try the Process tab--sort by CPU, and see if you can spot the offending program(s) causing the CPU spike.

As for the Network bandwidth: select the Networking tab, then click on View-> Select Columns. Then check whichever checkboxes you want.
Same goes for the Processes tab.
post #25 of 47
By the way, you do have disk indexing service turned off, right?
post #26 of 47
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Originally Posted by galahad05
By the way, you do have disk indexing service turned off, right?

Actually I don't
I just left it as how it was...
Is that a big no-no?
post #27 of 47
This is a good candidate for being your culprit. DIS is (in)famous for being 1) a bit of a disk hog, and 2) causing bursts of cpu/disk activity during what it thinks are "idle" times--like when watching a movie, perhaps.
post #28 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by galahad05
This is a good candidate for being your culprit. DIS is (in)famous for being 1) a bit of a disk hog, and 2) causing bursts of cpu/disk activity during what it thinks are "idle" times--like when watching a movie, perhaps.

well unfortunately, that doesn't solve the problem either
I even went through a defrag and still the same
post #29 of 47
Damn.

Well, did you manage to use the process->cpu usage task manager (see post #24)? This could still show a misbehaving program periodically "kicking" the processor usage.

Though I'm suspecting you'll end up seeing a basic system service process doing this.
post #30 of 47
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Originally Posted by galahad05
Damn.

Well, did you manage to use the process->cpu usage task manager (see post #24)? This could still show a misbehaving program periodically "kicking" the processor usage.

Though I'm suspecting you'll end up seeing a basic system service process doing this.

haha I think it's the taks manager itself...
post #31 of 47
Try to have this (task manager check) when you see the spiky slowdowns while playing videos.
post #32 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by galahad05
Try to have this (task manager check) when you see the spiky slowdowns while playing videos.

nothing unusual
just "taskmgr" and "system"
post #33 of 47
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Oh and I thought the audio problem was solved
but it hasn't
audio files still lag like video files
post #34 of 47
I swear this sounds like either an IRQ issue, video display driver issue, audio driver issue, or video player problem.

Remind me again: does this periodic slowdown occur no matter what application(s) you're running, right? For example, if you're typing away on a Word document you still experience the slowdowns?
post #35 of 47
So I went ahead to research this further guess what. My desktop is NOW exhibiting the EXACT same issue regardless of a format and swapped parts. Apparently its the motherboard so says my 3rd party diagnostic dell is coming to replace mine. Id call up the tech department on your part.
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by DELL-Machina
So I went ahead to research this further guess what. My desktop is NOW exhibiting the EXACT same issue regardless of a format and swapped parts. Apparently its the motherboard so says my 3rd party diagnostic dell is coming to replace mine. Id call up the tech department on your part.

oh my gosh that sounds horrible!

so here's a little story with my laptop (and why I swore myself to never buy anything from dell ever again. if I happen to get one for free, it goes straight to ebay)

I bought this i600m way back in 2003 with 1 year warranty.
About a month before the warranty ended, the laptop turned itself off while writing some paper.
That was a motherboard failure.
There also was a huge black discoloring on the left palm rest due to the hdd's heat, which I complained about also when returning the laptop for repair. Dell said it's quite ordinary (yeah ok) so they didn't do anything about it.
Last year, while writing some paper (gee what are the odds?) the laptop shut off again, with pretty much the same problem. Obviously I was pissed and called dell with no avail. After all, the warranty WAS gone
Knowing there are enough people interested in broken laptops for parts, I put this junk on ebay, with a brief explanation about the "burnt palm rest." About a day before the auction ends, someone pm'ed me about the palm rest, saying that according to his experience, that's not really a "typical" case.
Of course that really set me off.
I called dell but took too long so went online for chat support.
I rampaged on about how they lied to me about the palm rest and the agent on the other side sorta got scared (are you suffering from actual physical damage? etc). Obviously taking advantage of this, I went on and on bashing the poor guy, even though it's not his fault
soon after he said he'll talk to his supervisor and a few days later, a new laptop (the same discontinued i600m however) came, with upgraded screen resolution, more hdd, and better cpu.
The discoloring was significantly reduced. However, there were other problems. The power button started to get peeled off (that's a first) and the keyboard LED's started not working, along with the volume control buttons near that part. Very soon after, I noticed that the '4' key was extremely sensitive--as in, I can very lightly tab on it and it "activates."
And a few days earlier, whether it's hardware or not, this intermittent lagging happens.

Well I'm planning to get a tablet pc anyways but I was gonna wait for santa rosa
post #37 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by galahad05
I swear this sounds like either an IRQ issue, video display driver issue, audio driver issue, or video player problem.

Remind me again: does this periodic slowdown occur no matter what application(s) you're running, right? For example, if you're typing away on a Word document you still experience the slowdowns?

that is extremely hard to tell, as it's not as dramatic as the "freezing period" is very short--as in much less than 1 sec short.

I kinda tested this by moving an open widow randomly across the screen. Instead of seamlessly getting dragged by the mouse pointer, it "lags" every second. So I guess it's not just for playing video or music files.
post #38 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DELL-Machina
So I went ahead to research this further guess what. My desktop is NOW exhibiting the EXACT same issue regardless of a format and swapped parts. Apparently its the motherboard so says my 3rd party diagnostic dell is coming to replace mine. Id call up the tech department on your part.

Btw, what program did you use? I want to test it out also.
post #39 of 47
Basically its windows on a CDrom (No HDD needed) with testing tools however ever after I swapped out my desktop IDE cable and used a different DVD Drive I had the exact same issue that was present with CPU usage spiking at 20% with nothing running!!! All the parts tested going into my sisters desktop confirms th parts are good sans the motherboard. Go fig huh?
post #40 of 47
Event Viewer (or Alert viewer) would show what the OS thinks is going on. Though I admit it's hard to decipher sometimes.

Other than it possibly being IDE-devices-running-in-PIO-mode, or one of the things I posted about previously, I'm pretty much out of ideas.
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