New Alienware Area 51 m5790 now available! - Page 2

I blame it on the short shelflife of emerging technology. Video Cards are being updated at such a rate that companies like Nvidia and Ati just aren't able to get back the amount of money they have put into a product if they price it cheaper.

At least desktop gpu's drop in price a whole lot faster then the MXM technology of laptops. You can easily sell a single 7900gs go for about $450 on ebay and someone will buy it even though in all truth it isn't worth it in the least. And that is for the 256mb version.

Wow butt-hurt sum folks did I? As these 2 laptops are probably the closest competitors to each other (at least for me as I was shopping they were), if you cant find the relevance you don't deserve to post here. I have been complaining about BT and webcam inclusion for some YEARS now, while its found its way into some AW laptops, I cant imagine why they are not putting them in all of em??? Im not sure how useful the hdmi port will be, and the rest I could live without. Both still could use a eSata port. And both could use a battery charge station like sony has that can charge 2 extra PRIMARY batteries. The 17" macbook pro was also on my short list but at 2x the price of both the HP and AW, it got scratched off fairly quickly. Yet noone offers a laptop with "ALL" the features I desired...... But of course...wheres the relevance

That's the question we are all asking... glad you're happy with your HP, but still don't see where it has any relevance in this thread.

Arch is starting to sound like Commish.

I would have been happier w/ an AW with the same features at near the same price, the relevance is that the 5790 has plenty of shortcomings. Just because this is an AW forum/thread does not mean an opposing/dissenting opinion cant be offered. Moreover its not like Im some HP fanboy who just stopped in here to bash..... I was in the market for a new 17" lappie, for what I wanted, the AW,HP and Apple were the puters I was comparing and in the end decided on the HP. I posted why. Others may be interested in why an AW fanboy would switch(not choose the 5790), its relevant. the thread title doesnt say "Stroking the 5790"

edit: Huli says I'm being a dick again....

I'd buy your story, arch ... except you bought your HP in December, so the 5790 wasn't even announced at that time. I guess the reason we are questioning the relevance of your posts in this thread is because it's about the 5790 ... and then you come in and start talking about your HP. It does have some nice features, but the differences between the processor and video card seem fairly significant. I see you got the 1440x900 display ... do they have an option for 1920x1200? No one expects everyone who posts here to be an Alienware fan, and dissenting opinions often lead to good debate ...

Hey you know I'm not his # 1 fan . I'm guess I just don't see the relevance of his post . It does seem off topic to me, and I guess that means I shouldn't post anymore . To each his own.

I purchased on 12/26 while in december, not really that far off. Secondly I was able to purchase through Costco which has a 6 Month no questions asked full refund policy (No tech support nightmares), partly just for a situation such as this where a new laptop is announced only weeks after I finalized an order. HP also announced a 9200 but as with the 5790 (imo) was only an incremental upgrade that really did not offer that much more (again imo).

I believe I did point out the areas of dominance of the 5790, but for my computing needs, those factors were minimized. And I really wouldnt get too excited about the higher resolution the 5790 offers in any event. Much as has been readilly debated in the 720p vs 1080p HDTV circles it has been reported that pixel resolution is only the 4th most important screen quality factor, while the HP offers a 1680x1050 which still isnt 1900x1200 but Ill take the screen I got because it destroys both those displays in the 3 other categories rated more important than pixel resolution....

According to the Imaging Science Foundation, a group that consults for home-theater manufacturers and trains professional video calibrators, the most important aspect of picture quality is contrast ratio, the second most important is color saturation, and the third is color accuracy. Resolution comes in a distant fourth.

Not to mention the HDMI 1.3 makes nice for much larger screens/resolutions.

Suffice to say the 57 serries runs hotter with less battery life.

Im not saying the 5790(50) is a bad laptop by any means!!! But the only thing the 5790 offers that I really wish I could have gotten in the HP is the MXM slot for a future upgrade to a DX10 card, but even that Im skeptical we'll see before the summer, and even then I have till June to return my HP to the local Costco for a full (cash) refund, and then buy a proper dx10 laptop.

lol ... thanks for that disertation, archalien. Like I said ... happy you like your HP. btw ... the question on display resolution was only to point out that the two laptops you are comparing are not apples to apples. You'll see in my sig I have the same res you do on my m9700. And thanks for the lecture on HDTV technology ... not sure I agree with your HDMI 1.3 comments, but we'll leave that for another thread.

Anybody want to start a new thread about the 5790 features???? I see to have derailed this one

To be honest, I got the 1440x900 cuz I got tired of squinting at uber high resolution monitors running native.

as did I...

I am very interested in getting an HP DV9000T also. can you tell me which games you are playing and the results. I am interested in getting Supreme Commander but I am very concerned that it might lag or studder.

yang and everyone else, i got my hands on two slim blueray drives, they were sent to my company, i installed one on my m9700 its working great, just finish gladiator !!

i installed the other one in my work sentia m3450 for reason is not working havent really troubleshoot it much, i did install it in my coworkers m5750 and it works great!! he just finished burning some blank media the drive is 1x only..

i called AW to see if they would sell me more driver they told me that not at the moment only computers coming out of manufacturing will be able to purchase it, the rep did said that after a month of releasing the product they will be able to sell it to the rest of the customers so yeiiiiiii

Im not a computer gamer (Consoles pwn!) As such, I didnt max out the processor, T7200 available, I got T5500 Thats probably a significant difference for high end games while certain AW models offer even faster processors. Second, I got the 256mb GF7600go while a 512mb version is offered which also should boost gaming performance, while the x1800/x1900/GF7800go/GF7900go cards AW offers in some systems will destroy the 7600 I got. I also got a lower res higher quality lcd, but HP offers a 1600x1050 for considerably less than what I paid! Although some AW models go as high as 1900x1200 or so but at a steep price. So for strict gaming, certain AW configs will destroy the best config'd dv9000. But I am not a cpu gamer and for all around usage including all others features previously listed the dv9000t imo ownz. that said I installed far cry and it ran horribly??? which is odd being its a 2004 game, maybe a config/driver issue. Also ran F.E.A.R. (2006) its auto detect wanted to put every setting at max except for eye candy (AA & AF). It stuttered (a little) at those settings, but that was before I dropped more ram into it, and was prolly due to serious paging to the HDD not cpu/gpu insufficiency. Not familiar with the grfx needs of Supreme Commander but even my setup should be able to handle any game out w/ decent grfx just fine, but if u need top notch quality levels at 300+ fps this isnt the laptop for you.

Could you do me a favor and test to see if the Dual-Channel Memory Controller is enabled in your machine? hp won't answer that question for me. I got snookered on the dv8000t and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Thanks!

the HP DV9000 is dual channel ram compatible. Just make sure that you put the same speed ram in so that the duo core/core 2 duo processor will take advantage of it. This meaning that get the same exact ram chips if you are upgrading.

Is this verified by personal testing? hp doesn't make any dual channel claims on their website.