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post #21 of 45
3/25/04 at 4:47am
Great! Glad to help
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post #22 of 45
3/27/04 at 6:42pm

looking for 3dmark 200_1_ scores

Could you run 3dmark 2001 (not 2003) and post scores at stock (250/196) speeds and also at whatever overclocked speeds you're running at?
Thanks.
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post #23 of 45
3/27/04 at 7:23pm
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Sure, let me download 3DMark 2001 and I'll run and post the results.
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post #24 of 45
3/27/04 at 7:59pm
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3DMark 2001 SE Results
5858

Default everything. I haven't been brave enough to OC, yet.

Did notice resolution on benchmark set to 1024x768, 32 bit. I believe the native resolution of this notebook is 1400x1050, 32 bit, which is what it's running now. I can change this if it'll help you out any.
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post #25 of 45
3/27/04 at 9:30pm

Thanks.

No need to overclock, nor to run at a higher resolution.
Wanted to confirm what my nc6000 does too.
It seems due to the super-low clockspeeds, our 3dmark 2001 scores are inferior to my compaq presario 2810T 3dmarks.

Specs of the compaq presario:
1.7ghz P-4M, 768mb pc2100 (266mhz) ddr ram.
64mb Ati Radeon Mobility 9000.
WinXp Pro.
3dmark 2001 score: ~6400

For the nc6000:
1.6ghz Pentium-M 768mb pc2700 (333mhz) ddr ram.
64mb Ati Radeon Mobility 9600.
WinXp Pro.
3dmark 2001 score: ~5862

Seems to me the underclocking of the 9600 makes it inferior to a 9000 gpu .
The cpus on each system had speedstep disabled (thus the presario ran at 1.69ghz, the nc600 ram at 1.59ghz).
The difference in cpu does not explain such a dramatic change.

However, the 9600 gpu seems to gain a lot of performance by even small increases in speed.

Ah well, thanks the confirmation. Was beginning to think something was wrong with my system for awhile there due to such low scores. Guess not.

If you wever overclock your gpu, be sure to post new scores. You'll likely notice a huge increase, but the information you provided has answered my questions...this is -not- a gaming machine by design.

Thanks much.
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post #26 of 45
3/27/04 at 10:14pm
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No problem.
Glad I could confirm your suspicions, I think.

I'm still happy with the few games I do play on this notebook. I'm not hard to please, though.

Have you checked the benchmarks "jmanjohns" did for his nc6000?
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post #27 of 45
3/28/04 at 3:21am
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Have you checked the benchmarks "jmanjohns" did for his nc6000?
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*nods*. I get about 1600-1700 on 3dmark 2003 as well.

The overclocking definately boosted his marks.

However, unlike him, I'm not an overclocker simply because i know that there is always a reason why they "underclock" chips, and I'd prefer to keep this system working as long as possible without any hitches.

Once again though, thanks for your assistance. and yes, it plays most games fine at mid resolutions etc, but it'll start hurting in a few next-gen games etc.
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post #28 of 45
3/28/04 at 7:23pm
Guys, could you give me hand? Whenever I try to run 3DMark 01SE, it says that I don't have DX8 installed. I already installed DX9, which cant be uninstalled, is there a way to trick it into thinking its running in a DX8 environment.
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post #29 of 45
3/29/04 at 2:19am
3dmark 2001 works fine here with DirectX 9.0b.

Is that the version you are running?
If so, are you using build 330 of 3dmark 2001 se? If not, go to www.futuremark.com and hit download there and it'll link you to various download pages.
Dx 9 contains everything 8 does, so no clue why you're getting that error.
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post #30 of 45
3/29/04 at 5:09am
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy0004
3DMark 2001 SE Results
5858

Default everything. I haven't been brave enough to OC, yet.

Did notice resolution on benchmark set to 1024x768, 32 bit. I believe the native resolution of this notebook is 1400x1050, 32 bit, which is what it's running now. I can change this if it'll help you out any.
5199 on my Sony PCG-V505EX without overclocking (1024x768 32 bit color). I did try setting both the GPU and video RAM to 260Mhz (10Mhz lower than the max for a Mobility Radeon 9200) and it didn't make much difference (I think it topped out at around 5800). Definately not worth risking the GPU or video RAM over, especially since Unreal Tournament 2004 runs smooth with the default clock settings (210 GPU, 230 video RAM)...

The real benefit that you have is that your GPU is DX 9 compliant, where the Radeon 9200 is just DX 9 compatable -you'll get more "eye candy" than I will
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post #31 of 45
3/29/04 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by jmanjohns
Guys, could you give me hand? Whenever I try to run 3DMark 01SE, it says that I don't have DX8 installed. I already installed DX9, which cant be uninstalled, is there a way to trick it into thinking its running in a DX8 environment.
I had the same problem and it's due to some of the mirrors not having updated copies of 3DMark 01SE. You may have to try a few of them until you get the latest version -I don't remember where I got mine...
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post #32 of 45
3/29/04 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by rinthos
3dmark 2001 works fine here with DirectX 9.0b.
Same here. DX 9.0b works fine with 3DMark 2001 SE, build 330.
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post #33 of 45
3/29/04 at 3:00pm
I have a question about the nc6000 ...

I know it doesn't have a 1394 firewire port. I've also read that the port replicators for this system do not have the firewire either, and I've read the port reps/and this system do not support firewire.

My question is - what about 1394 pcmcia cards - would 1394 be supported that way? Anyone know? Thanks!
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post #34 of 45
3/29/04 at 5:38pm
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I don't know why they would not work. I've been looking at them myself. Orange Micro, Belkin, and several other manufacturers have models that would appear to be good solutions.
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post #35 of 45
3/29/04 at 7:33pm
Unless there is a driver error for a particular card, it should work. There is absolutely no posibility that you won't be able to find a compatible card. Anyhelp on the 3DMark problem? Im going to see if I can reinstall DX9.
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post #36 of 45
3/29/04 at 7:42pm
Thanks - I appreciate your reply. I read the online service manual and it didn't seem too promising, but if all it would take is a pcmcia cardbus, that would be a cool solution - and it seems logical it should work. I've been going back 'n forth between the nw8000 and the nc6000. Guess I have to break down and call sales to be certain - I just don't feel they're all that competent!
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post #37 of 45
3/29/04 at 7:42pm
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jmanjohns,
Are you using 3DMark 2001 SE, build 330?
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post #38 of 45
3/29/04 at 8:04pm
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~88,
No problem. I've been looking at them because I need a firewire interface for my iPod. They seem to be perfect for that.
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post #39 of 45
3/30/04 at 8:01pm
BigDaddy,
are you sure you have the 64mb 9600 not the 32mb version?
those 3dmark2001 scores around 5800 is for the 32mb version,
the 64mb version shall score something around 8000~9000 with
default clocks at 1024x768 32bit.
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post #40 of 45
3/30/04 at 9:05pm
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Saeed,
Yes, I'm sure it is the 64MB version. "Rinthos" and "Jmanjohns", in this same thread, have almost identical scores with their 64MB nc6000.
It isn't a very high scoring notebook on the benchmarks, as I'm learning.
But, I am very happy with the things it does. The games I have tried playing on it have all played well. What more could you ask for a "Non-Gaming" notebook?
IMHO, benchmarks are a handy reference tool for comparing different systems. But they don't tell the whole story.
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