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post #1 of 25
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First, if you haven't yet, DON'T BUY ACER FOR GAMING. They do not update their video drivers. The bastards do not even respond to emails inquiring about video drivers.

Second, I have the 5672wlm1 with the x1600 128/512mb piece of crap (it's worse than an x600, which goes to show you that ATI has stopped giving a crap). I am having serious stability issues with many new games, but none of the companies will help me because my video drivers are "out of date".

I've tried Omega but they're even more unstable. Do any of you know of a custom driver set that works for the 5672wlmi and increases stability in new games?
post #2 of 25
dude, edit the .inf in the drivers and get gaming like the rest of us!
post #3 of 25
Have you tried the drivers from here http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=ati
post #4 of 25
I agree with the statement about this laptop sucking for gaming because it really does as per my last post. I have gotten the best performance by getting 2 gigs of ram and overclocking the videocard to 470/400 using ati tray tools. I am using the Omega drivers 7.1 right now and they work really well with WoW though for some reason half life 2 and its mods seem to freeze with any Omega Driver release. I mean like freezing the laptop completely so I have to reboot. btw, what games are you trying to play?
post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cybermind
dude, edit the .inf in the drivers and get gaming like the rest of us!
Oh, gee, that's real helpful, thanks.

What do I edit, exactly?

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Have you tried the drivers from here http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=ati
Doesn't support mobile cards.

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I mean like freezing the laptop completely so I have to reboot. btw, what games are you trying to play?
Half-Life 2 and mods I have the most problems with, especially Garry's Mod 10, which crashes constantly. I also have a stupid problem with CoD 2 freezing during the intro videos and a gameplay problem with Lego Star Wars II. All of their respective companies refuse to help me until I update my video drivers.
post #6 of 25
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Originally Posted by shaitin
I agree with the statement about this laptop sucking for gaming because it really does as per my last post. I have gotten the best performance by getting 2 gigs of ram and overclocking the videocard to 470/400 using ati tray tools. I am using the Omega drivers 7.1 right now and they work really well with WoW though for some reason half life 2 and its mods seem to freeze with any Omega Driver release. I mean like freezing the laptop completely so I have to reboot. btw, what games are you trying to play?

overclocking the video card is definately NOT a good idea. omega driver is not a good idea. freezing could be a number of things, ull only know its not omegas or overclocking if you stop doing that and do a fresh install with the standard drivers (you can mod the inf on new ones if you want, thats still an official driver and fully supports the x1100, the problem is licensing. thats why ati doesnt add support in the inf, its something companies pay less when licensing, to do themselves - and support it themselves)

anyhow good luck with that, and maybe, well you should choose a gaming notebook if you're really into games. this notebook is about bang for the buck, not specifically gaming performance. yknow?
post #7 of 25
actually i made a mistake. you have a notebook with x1600....?! with the latest drivers it should be FINE for gaming in general.... i dont get it. sorry, u DID choose a decent gaming machine... it seems to just not be performing very well for you

im sorry about that
post #8 of 25
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The x1600 is a piece of crap, but regardless I have crashing issues with some new games. Telling me to "edit the inf" isn't helpful at all, you have to tell me which one to edit and where. I've tried installing the ATI Mobility drivers but they were unstable too, so apparently it's not just licensing.
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by thelonesoldier
The x1600 is a piece of crap, but regardless I have crashing issues with some new games. Telling me to "edit the inf" isn't helpful at all, you have to tell me which one to edit and where. I've tried installing the ATI Mobility drivers but they were unstable too, so apparently it's not just licensing.
sorry but no, i dont have to. i dont even know the specifics about your card and i cant see the pid and vid, so i cant do it for you even if i DID like your tone of voice. you'll have to do like the rest of us, and do some research if you want your machine to run better - and not blame it on gaming class hardware to bad you think the x1600 is a piece of crap. for a lot of others, its a godsend - and i guess that belief if why they persist and make it work.. and i would appreciate having an x1600 if i had it. i bet i could make it work great... good luck with your inf editing
post #10 of 25
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Okay, numerous benchmarks and in-game tests have proven that the X1600 is outperformed by the X600 in every way. I'm not sure how that doesn't make it a piece of crap. I've done lots of research and tried numerous drivers and nothing works right.
post #11 of 25
sounds like yours is defective. your guess as to why your notebook sucks is as good as mine. many people are just plain happy with the performance of the x1600. maybe ur expectations are too high? sounds like u need to spend more on an sli setup, or get a desktop system with a decent pci-e card to be happy. go for it
post #12 of 25
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It's not defective, like I said, the X1600 isn't a good card. You can blab about how happy you'd be to have one because it has a high number, but again, other users and benchmarks have shown that it's worse than an X600.

And there's the issues because Acer won't update their goddamn drivers.
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by Cybermind
overclocking the video card is definately NOT a good idea. omega driver is not a good idea. freezing could be a number of things, ull only know its not omegas or overclocking if you stop doing that and do a fresh install with the standard drivers (you can mod the inf on new ones if you want, thats still an official driver and fully supports the x1100, the problem is licensing. thats why ati doesnt add support in the inf, its something companies pay less when licensing, to do themselves - and support it themselves) anyhow good luck with that, and maybe, well you should choose a gaming notebook if you're really into games. this notebook is about bang for the buck, not specifically gaming performance. yknow?
Do you even know what you are talking about? The x1600 is one of the best laptop videocards for 15.4 inch and smaller notebooks. Do you own the acer 5672? most likely you dont or you would know what we are talking about. The acer 5672 x1600 first of all is DOWNCLOCKED from its standard 475/475 to something around 440/380. So yes overclocking is OK if you watch the temps. Also the x1600 on the acer 5672 is gimped by the 128mb of ram due to a 64bit memory controller. It is normally tons better than an x600 but acer gimped it big time. I did not notice this when I bought it but I am dealing with it. The omega drivers are just fine for most of my needs except with the source engine freezing. Yes I did a fresh install of windows as soon as I got he laptop so it is only omega drivers which I can deal with because I dont play soucre games often and mostly play WoW which runs fairly well at anywhere from 30-45fps with 4x AA on. Also if I wanted a gaming laptop I would have gone with a 17 inch but since I use it for school that is not practical so I thought this would be a good deal but I was wrong. To lone soldier - If you want the best performance for most games use omega. Source games will not work well because of the freezing. I would do a fresh install of windows and use official drivers if you want to run source games though those drivers suck for just about everything else. If you want something more I would ebay the thing and get a laptop wiht a 7700go or x1700 in it with atleast 256mb vram.
post #14 of 25
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The X1600 Mobility is always 64 bit, that's not Acer's fault. ATI must have decided to take a lesson from NVidia and make it so the numbers mean nothing.


The goddamn laptop runs so hot already I can't believe you're overclocking it without blowing it up.


Even fresh install, the Source games have occassional issues.
post #15 of 25
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Do you even know what you are talking about? The x1600 is one of the best laptop videocards for 15.4 inch and smaller notebooks.
oh. i thought it was about the actual resolution, color depth, and how many pixels the card has to push... not the size of the display itself... aren't there 15.4 inch displays of different resolutions much higher than 1280x800...? well, anyhow its not important. what is, is that im learning and im not trying to come off as the end all know it all. are you? anyhow your opinion is just as valid as mine, im not fighting it. i originally thought it was amazing also, and was surprised that he was having so many probs with it ..
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Originally Posted by shaitin
Do you own the acer 5672? most likely you dont or you would know what we are talking about.
no, i dont actually. im just participating and putting in my 2cents. just like you. i do a little research, give a little time to help, and if its interesting enough i sometimes do more to help. in this case, this is what i have to offer. sorry its not good enough for you
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Originally Posted by shaitin
The acer 5672 x1600 first of all is DOWNCLOCKED from its standard 475/475 to something around 440/380. So yes overclocking is OK if you watch the temps. Also the x1600 on the acer 5672 is gimped by the 128mb of ram due to a 64bit memory controller. It is normally tons better than an x600 but acer gimped it big time.
good info..!
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The omega drivers are just fine for most of my needs except with the source engine freezing.
so far. good luck with that! anyhow its not like ATI is supporting the official drivers either.. so you may as well use hacked, mixed, unsupported drivers with bundled 3rd party tools. some of them are actually decent and blow away the bloated ccc. no foul there.
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To lone soldier - If you want the best performance for most games use omega. Source games will not work well because of the freezing. I would do a fresh install of windows and use official drivers if you want to run source games though those drivers suck for just about everything else. If you want something more I would ebay the thing and get a laptop wiht a 7700go or x1700 in it with atleast 256mb vram.
well its decent advice i guess, although you are an nvidia/intel fan? ouch!! ive always been the kind who doesnt like garbage fast food (mcdonalds), tyrants and bigots (president bush), violent fools (eminem/rap), or companies like intel/nvidia (call them what u will). anyhow no hard feelings - glad u had the info lone soldier needed, i tried but i guess this is not my notebook or my area of expertise. im just looking around trying to help peeps in whatever way i can. later guys!
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by thelonesoldier
The X1600 Mobility is always 64 bit, that's not Acer's fault. ATI must have decided to take a lesson from NVidia and make it so the numbers mean nothing.


The goddamn laptop runs so hot already I can't believe you're overclocking it without blowing it up.


Even fresh install, the Source games have occassional issues.

Well I have done a lot to try to get the temps down such as taking off the heatsink and putting arctic silver 5 on it as well as taking off the air intake grills. Also leaving the fans intake COVERED helps with overall system temps. I also have a 7200rpm hard drive installed which throws a lot of heat but it still gets warm (i.e. palms sweat) around the hard drive. temps are usually round 50 idle and 60 underload. All these things have helped a ton with temps. I can play WoW for like 4 hours with no problems. The fan will be going full blast most of the time but it did before these changes So I can safely overclock it. Also install notebook hardware control for dynamic cpu clocking and temp watching. And believe me the x1600 is gimped compared to the 256mb versions. I have studied this almost religiously as to why the acer x1600 sucks and I keep coming up with the acer x1600's being slower than normal x1600's most likely due to the 128mb ram and underclocking. There is nothing that I know of that can be done about source but when I had the regular drivers from acer installed atleast i didnt get it to freeze it just didnt run as fast with those drivers.

To Cybermind - hey no big deal. We are all friends on this forum!
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by shaitin
To Cybermind - hey no big deal. We are all friends on this forum!

In that case... you rock. ttyl
post #18 of 25
Maybe the next release will include support...?
http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8109&page=2&pp=10
Can you wait that long??!
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dave38
Maybe the next release will include support...?
http://www.ngohq.com/showthread.php?t=8109&page=2&pp=10
Can you wait that long??!

I don't have much choice. Somehow I doubt they'll be stable.

I emailed the guy who makes the Omega drivers about the stability issues they caused but he didn't even bother to email me back.
post #20 of 25
I have the NGOHQ drivers installed for my nvidia 7600 go, and they are pretty stable. Anyway, I posted that message in hope for you..I can't actually understand now whether there will be support for the X1600. anyway good luck too you. And with the .inf modding thing!!
Spotted this thread...
http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=122821
check it out??
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