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post #21 of 37
Hammer, if you are right then that must also mean it is alienware's fault that my feet get cold when I work outside in negative temps while wearing women's pumps.

I think I'll file a complaint with my local union.
post #22 of 37
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I heard that Alienware's lack of respect for their customers is why we're losing in Iraq.

Alienware's lack of respect for customers is also the main cause of global warming
post #23 of 37
Funny you should say that (about buying a mac...). I'm planning on installing Mac OS 10.4.8 on mine when I get it. No Vista for me, thanks.

And it really pisses me off that Alienware doesn't take more responsibility for all the damn cats in my neighborhood. You'd think that they could at least abduct them, or maybe have an alien barbeque....
post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by Article88
I stayed up late last night and tried reinstalling Vista with a usb mouse already plugged in. A friend of mine said that during the initial install, it does a compatibility check and when I installed the first time I didn't have the mouse plugged in. Apparently, it will use a vanilla driver during install if you do it this way.

Sure enough, when the machine came up it had the mouse working. Unfortunately, when I go to use VLC, the machine blue screens. When I go to use iTunes and play a video, it blue screens. When I went to install WOW, it errored out on Disk 3.

FYI VLC doesnt work on Vista at all.

haven't you heard what Vista is all about? Its to stop P2P networks. Windows Media player will wipe your CD collection out if it thinks you got it illegally by DL it. Many major Media Players that will play videos and sound will not work because of PMP. You're SOL in the whole viewing anything you DL off the internet till the guy who actually cracked PMP to come froward with the info without getting sued by MS.
post #25 of 37
Thread Starter 
Alienware also canceled MASH in 1983, 14 years before the company was founded. Talk about being ahead of your time.

I wonder if Steve Jobs called AW tomorrow and said "I think you guys are getting shafted. We want to license OSX Leopard to you" what they would say. I think it would be hilareous to see Dell, HP, AW, etc offer OSX installs and see what happens in the market...especially with companies like Cider partnering with NVidia to offer the ability for XP games to run natively in OSX.
post #26 of 37
you know the driver for the m9700 the one for your video card is supplied by ALIENWARE NOT NVIDIA . Just cus its signed whql by nvidia the driver was made and tested in alienware labs. the fuutrere driver for the M9700's 7900GS the vista driver is not being developed by nvida and the fuuter nvidia drivers will not (without moddifing inf) SUPPORT your 7000GS Nvidia dose not support that card. ONLY DELL AND ALIENWARE.


THIS MEANS its UP TO ALENWARE NOT NVIDIA To come out with a driver for the 7900GS on vista Alienware has to wait for the 7900 GTX driver to get WHQL then they take out the 2 or 4 (phisicly 2) pipelines that the GTX driver addresses.
post #27 of 37
at the moment not even Itunes works fine on vista, i installed vista only for work requirements, but i did it on a small 20gb partition im not leaving XP until at least SP 1 if not 2 either way i changed from 98SE to XP until service pack 2 hehe
post #28 of 37
The more I hear about Vista, the more I'm glad I'm still using XP...

And about Nvidia drivers, AW does not make their own drivers, they may modify drivers slightly from Nvidia for their systems, but they don't develop drivers themselves.
post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by sparda
What did you expect? It's a whole new platform, the product doesn't "suck" because applications that were programed by third parties specifically for previous versions (9X / 2000 / XP) don't work on Vista, it's up to developers to start working on Vista compatible applications. As Isaac said, pretty much the same thing happened when XP was released, there was though, more compatibility back then, but it was basically because XP was built on top of Windows 2000. Are consumers going to be pissed ? Of course! And they will take it out on Microsoft because it's their operating system, but they fail to see that it's up to software developers and hardware vendors to start working on making their products compatible with Vista. These type of conflicts are not specific to Windows either, on Linux, most of the times if you want to get an application working, you need to make sure that you have the appropriate kernel version and that all dependencies (libraries) are up to the specific required version (or greater), if a new kernel is released and you compile it on your box, chances are that application will not work anymore and you will have to re-compile a new version of it....yet people go out saying things like "Why can't Windows be more like Linux?" (I'm not saying that's your case).

You're missing the point - Microsoft does have a responsibility to bring a product to market that will work properly. Part of that process is working with hardware vendors to ensure most, if not all, mainstream hardware works properly with their new product before putting it on store shelves. This is part of the process, and this is one of the many corners that Microsoft has cut in an effort to bring Vista to market sooner. To put it another way, MS has essentially released a beta product, in which known issues still have not been resolved. Yes it is the hardware vendor's responsibility to release drivers that will work, and software vendors to release software that will work, but it is Microsoft's responsibility to ensure this happens BEFORE their product is released, NOT AFTER. That is what the beta process is supposed to be for.

Not that I blame them, with the countless delays it was either "cut features and release an unfinished product now" or "delay even longer reducing investors' confidence in Microsoft's future growth potential" - guess which one sounded better to management (at least at the time)?
post #30 of 37
F#CK it! I am selling my M9700 and getting an Apple. I am so tired of MS's bs. Hell, I have the PS3 for gaming I will just use that to get me past my boring days at home, and use the Apple to do all of my video and photo editing. I had hopes that Vista would work much smoother from the beginning without having to screw around and wait for SP1 and SP2 to come out before I could use it the way I wanted to. I just tried to help a bud do a full OEM install on a system that we built specifically for VISTA. 90% of the parts had the official (works with VISTA) emblem on it. We still had to install it twice because it kept getting errors. We had two 200gb hard drives so we swapped drives and tried it on the second one and got the same problem. Once we finally got everything installed (4 hours by the way) he launched I-tunes so that he could transfer his music folders over and I-tunes only partially loaded before we got the blue screen of death. After that we couldn't get his sound card to work correctly and I just left. What a piece of shit. He is at home now installing XP w/SP2. This makes the 4th high end machine that I have built in three years, and I have never had problems like this. I was so frustrated that I will need to spend about 6 hours with my priest.

-Jeff

-Jeff
post #31 of 37
Hissman, do some digging for "OSx on a PC." You may come up with a nice surprise - Mac OSX has been modded to enable installation on non-mac computers, specifically Core 2 Duo on Intel chipsets. There are other combinations that work, YMMV....

I'm planning on giving it a shot, can't be any worse than Vista and has the potential to be a whole lot better. Interestingly enough, Mac doesn't seem to be too concerned with this type of piracy.....
post #32 of 37
I am am going to run the piss out XP for now, but once the time comes that software will not run on it I will be swapping OS's and machines.

-Jeff
post #33 of 37
I've done that, and it works surprisingly well - check out http://www.osx86project.org/ for a great resource to get you up and running.
post #34 of 37
Awesome info about getting MacOSX onto a PC. I would love to run a macOSX as a partition on my Alien
post #35 of 37
I have a dell M1710 and Dell has done will with getting the drivers out for it. The only thing that might lack a little if the drivers for the 7900GTX. Everything else hardware replated works great.

Now as far as Vista goes, I am very satisfied with it. It handles so much quicker for general use. It was a lot quicker then i expected and I couldnt go back to XP now. I have yet to come across anything big yet besides VS2003 not working right. Everything else that went wrong for me are little things that can be fixed and/or ignored.
post #36 of 37
Nvidia already has a driver for desktops for the 8series.....doesnt help you tho.
post #37 of 37
all this Vista hating... First thing anyone should do is install on a second partition and try it that way. Dual booting is definitely the way to go. I've had Vista running since RC2 came out and it's my primary OS with pretty much zero issues. Only real problem I've noticed so far is the one game I played (Sims 2) had some video issues, but other than that the only blue screen I've seen is, uh, none...

just thought of one problem, AW's inability to deliver the free upgrade to Vista.. I'm more than a little disappointed at that one..
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