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post #61 of 84
Has anyone found a solution to this? I've spent a lot of time trying to figure it out and I can't get sound working on my 7700/Vista x86. I see a large number of "Unknown device" listed in the Other devices section of device manager. I've tried the 1.60 drivers and the XP drivers with no luck. The driver setup program seems to work/install but do not actually work.

icc
post #62 of 84
I too have been trying to install vista. I've got so far as the hard drive recognition for installation (disabling card reader to save it from hanging for about a year!) and then tried to install using the RAID controller driver found on this thread. It just tells me vista can't verify it's a valid volume.

Any help on my next steps appreciated,

Beetle
post #63 of 84
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Originally Posted by icculus203
Has anyone found a solution to this? I've spent a lot of time trying to figure it out and I can't get sound working on my 7700/Vista x86. I see a large number of "Unknown device" listed in the Other devices section of device manager. I've tried the 1.60 drivers and the XP drivers with no luck. The driver setup program seems to work/install but do not actually work.
I'm sure this comes too late for you, but maybe someone else will benefit from this information. If you're on a Clevo D900T, which in my case is an Alienware Area51m 7700, but could also be a Sager 9860, and perhaps other makes/models -- then the culprit is indeed the SmartLink modem. What follows are the steps I took to fix mine. I'm listening to an MP3 as I type this, for the first time in months. I'm not advocating the same steps for anyone else, and will assume no responsibility for any who follow in them, but offer them for the sake of pointing people in a useful direction (something I couldn't find myself anywhere on the net, or from Alienware, or from Microsoft (although they tried harder and longer to help me than ANYONE else, to their good credit), or from Clevo, or from Smart Link, or from Conexant, the POS company that acquired Smart Link's pc chip modem line back in 2005, and then dismissed the needs of the built-in customer base that came with it by not releasing Vista compatible drivers. But I digress. This took no more than a philips screwdriver and about 20 minutes. I broke the laptop completely down. You have to get the keyboard, metal rest underneath it, and the monitor off in order to expose the part of the motherboard you need to get to. That means taking the battery and other panels off of the back, and unscrewing the dozen or so little black screws holding the top of the case on. Don't miss the long pesky silver one nested under one of the panels that holds the middle down, I think it was in the same recess as the hard drives, but I won't swear to it. I removed a number of silver screws across the back of the machine, you can see that the split between top and bottom runs right through the middle of the ports on the back of the machine, so any screws above that have to come out. The keyboard pops out by clicking back the four little clasps holding it in along the top edge, then the disconnection of the data cable. I think the aluminum tray beneath that is held down by 4-5 more screws, they come out, it comes up. Then the black plastic strip that surrounds the power button above your F keys comes up, with at least one wire disconnection. Once that's up, you can easily remove the monitor by disconnecting the three cables, and lifting it straight up out of the two slots its pegs are in -- but this may not be necessary. In any event, you should now be able to eyeball where the phone jack in the back of the machine is for the modem. Just inside the machine, on the top surface of the motherboard, there are two wires (white and black, in my case) plugged into a port, that lead deeper towards the center of the board about 2 inches to a small card (about the size of a postage stamp) which is seated on the mother. I removed the wire from both connections. I then lifted the small card off the board, and set it aside. In my case, it was sandwiched by black card stock, and bore a white sticker with the following info: Model: MDCAZS P/N: 88-D90T1-391 That's the problem causer. With it removed, I reversed my tracks, reassembling the machine. Upon completion, I booted up, and went straight to this page: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false From there, I downloaded the most recent version of their HD Audio driver (in my case R1.66), and installed it. After a prompted reboot, I had audio. No more modem, but it wasn't working anyway, Conexant has no intentions to produce new drivers or support the Smart Link products they acquired. No more 39 unknown devices in the manager. All relatively easy. Wish I had gone poking around in there months ago, maybe I wouldn't have been living in silence this long. I hope this helps someone out there. There's virtually no worthwhile information about this problem on the net. Just lots of people complaining about it going back to the early Vista builds, and then the discontent tapering off over time as people either (like me) sort of gave up, maybe now and then trying a new Realtek driver without luck, or just downgraded back to XP. These Clevo D900T's are still great boxes, although mine has also been suffering power issues related to a loose connection between the power in jack and the motherboard (it's encased in a little silver box, so I can't see beneath it to tell if it's something maybe I could just solder -- anyone have any tips here?) -- anyway, the point is that they're worth the effort to get the sound working. I am not a particularly proficient tech type, which should be reassuring to anyone who wants to try the same solution on their own machine. If you have questions, I can be reached by way of clarity at buckeyeplanet dot com.
post #64 of 84
Thread Starter 

Hoah!!

Many thanks wcbryant! After no success I had reverted back to Windows XP. I have been waiting/hoping for someone to find a fix. I had suspected the modem was causing the problem, but assumed that the modem was build into the audio device.

I thank you for finding the problem and posting it to this forum. I believe a post needs to be stickied somewhere to help all D900T owners who were having this error. With your permission, I would be happy to create a picture guide and post a new thread and ask for a sticky (giving you credit for finding it of course).

I would like to let you know, you do not need to remove motherboard from the case in order to remove the modem. It is much easier to lift up the keyboard and the metal plate underneath. The card is easily accessible on the far upper-left. Just remove two screws and unplug the cable and lift straight up gently. Should take less than 10 minutes. Steps to remove the keyboard are available in AW's support database.

My next step is to install Vista again. I will let you know the results.
post #65 of 84
That sounds great to me, I'm just really happy this helped someone else. I was googling once a day for months to see if any new info hit, without any luck, and started to imagine that everyone else had just discarded their D900Ts, or given up on Vista.

I got an email from someone else who said it worked for them, and they were blasting MP3s through their cobwebbed speakers as he was typing -- so it seems to be working for people.

Not surprised that just the keyboard and tray are necessary. I completely broke mine down solely to investigate my failing power issue, and just happened to spy that card and take the leap on a hunch while putting it back together from that.
post #66 of 84
The picture guide would be appreciated. Thanks to wcbryant for finding the solution and Tokamak7700 for when the picture guide is made.

I have a good idea what the part is now but will wait until the picture guide is made before going under the keyboard again. I attached what I think the part is but others I have seen show black paper or black foam on top of the part.
LL
post #67 of 84
That picture you posted is exactly the part I removed, except mine isn't labeled MAx20, and did have the 'wrapper'. The circuitry is virtually identical though, to include labeling on some of the individual parts.
post #68 of 84
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Originally Posted by wcbryant
That picture you posted is exactly the part I removed, except mine isn't labeled MAx20, and did have the 'wrapper'. The circuitry is virtually identical though, to include labeling on some of the individual parts.
Thanks again. I hate to admit I thought that was the modem but I just removed the power plug and rebooted. Since the modem was still recognized, I thought it was something else. If I had removed it then this would have been solved 11 months ago when I was beta testing Vista. I never use the modem but will keep it around in just in case. I also have a PCMCIA modem card so I'm not worried.
post #69 of 84

Confirmed - Removing Modem Works

I can confirm that removing the modem works. I had to reinstall the drivers then on reboot it worked. I also have a Realtek Control Panel in the System Tray. I can't believe all the crap I went through getting the sound to work and I was almost there 11 months ago. This should also fix the KB888111 problem in XP but will test that later.
post #70 of 84
Like you, I wondered about doing this months ago, but kept reading that the HD Audio and modem shared a common bus or something, and Alienware actually told me (no joke here) that it was impossible to just remove the modem, that I'd have to change the whole motherboard out.

Pulling it out this time was something of a "I've got nothing to lose" move, re: my power issues.

Delighted that deciding to post my discovery has helped a couple people. I didn't expect any replies.

Nice to have sound again, eh?
post #71 of 84
Wow thankyou I too was in a few threads with some of you tyring to figure the vista mess.

I just now came across it as i was posting about sending my computer in to have the motherboard replaced because of power issues I am having.

I am hoping that when I get mine back with a new board that I will not have to remove the modem to get my sound to work in vista. I will let you guys know here if the new motherboard solves my issues or if I too have to remove the the modem.

Thanks again!

Bengal
post #72 of 84
Great posting wcbryant ive been trying to get sound from vista since it was in beta .
I too assumed the modem was built in with the sound card attached to the motherboard wished id been bothered to look
anyway thanks so much its helped me no end cheers
post #73 of 84

Worked for me as well

I'm going to put a link in the Alienware 7700 forum about this also, that would have saved me a ton of time, months!
post #74 of 84
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Originally Posted by atstriker2000 View Post
I'm going to put a link in the Alienware 7700 forum about this also, that would have saved me a ton of time, months!
Of course this will also work with Win 7. My Sager 9860 is still going strong
post #75 of 84
no any news about the drivers?

The unique solutions is to open the computer? because i am affraid to do that..
post #76 of 84
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Originally Posted by cox payne View Post
no any news about the drivers? The unique solutions is to open the computer? because i am affraid to do that..
That is the only known way. The company making the modems was bought out and no new drivers were made.
post #77 of 84
i have problems with my webcam with drivers and everything the computer dont recognize it!

Can be the same? or not?
post #78 of 84
Your best bet is to list out the devices and search for drivers from compatible models. There will be instances when one is really out of luck with drivers for new OS, but most of the time it should work with a little of persistence.

cheers ...
post #79 of 84
i am going to try that.. i have like fourt device that i cand find the drivers...
post #80 of 84
List them out here. We can try to chip in for you. Use Everest Home to get the manufacturer names.

cheers ...
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