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post #21 of 68
Why not download the 360 demos? Regarding reviews, checkout gamespot. They are exceptionally harsh with reviews, which is a good thing. Regarding chromehound, from what I understand, it is pretty good if u play online
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Originally Posted by Firefighter3110
Question No Xbox or 360 reviews?? is their a different person for those reviews or have u not gotten to any yet? Same with nintendo, different person or no time to review them?? Ever since I made the mistake of buying chromehounds I have gone by reviews and downloads of demos ever since, so im looking for a good review base for M$ console games.
post #22 of 68
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Originally Posted by FearNo1
Why not download the 360 demos? Regarding reviews, checkout gamespot. They are exceptionally harsh with reviews, which is a good thing. Regarding chromehound, from what I understand, it is pretty good if u play online


I do checkout gamespot, and I do download demos but most of my HD is reserved for the downloadables (Hexic, Lumines, Assault Heroes) so room is limited. Have you played chromehounds?? I will say that the things they got right they hit spot on, explosions, weaps, soldier classes/variety. But the things they got wrong, well they fell flat on their faces, enviroments seem rushed, enemies arent as smart or as good looking, their is this really annoying sound when you rotate to fire and No music/background noise to cover it up. SO yeah I really wish their would of been a demo or review before i bought it. Plus I trust what people think on these boards (or sR) more than some review over at game spot, I mean Duke knows what he is talking about, if he said a game blew nutz then I would take a hard look at even renting it.
post #23 of 68
I have a Wii and can do a few reviews if you like. I can't do video because I'm on dialup, but I'd like to help with this.
post #24 of 68
Thread Starter 
updated page one to reflect a few new reviews...
post #25 of 68
Let's get that Motorstorm review up there, slacker boy!!!
post #26 of 68
Thread Starter 
i will its next on my list

03-24-2007 - STALKER: Shadows of Chernobyl - completed link
post #27 of 68
Can't wait for the Motorstorm review! I would review Wii and 360 games but school is a pain in teh @$$, and finals come are in like 2 months...
post #28 of 68
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bumped for new games
post #29 of 68
Duke,
Since you are posting this asking for feedback, please take that these constructive criticisms come with best intentions.

First, the reviews look really nice, have a good flow to them, and such. In general, they are perfectly readable and enjoyable, and I have used them in the past for info on a few games.
However, If you want them to take the next step into a more 'professional' type of review, you really need to spend more time, or find someone else, who will do more proofreading and grammar work on them. I know this type of thing sucks, but if I'm a stranger, and I'm picking up grammar errors in the 1st paragraph, I'm going to be turned off, either actively or subsconsiously. for example, I'm reading the most recent C&C review, and early on, come across this sentence:

'A tech center introduces Mammoth Tank technology, while a Airfield allows you to begin and aircraft factory. '

Grammar/spelling errors in bold.

Others:

'more freakier', 'Except' instead of Expect....etc...

Otherwise, I appreicate the effort and the reviews are well done and helpful in terms of their content.
post #30 of 68
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awesome shlo. This goes to show you how little people actually read my reviews. You and Darq are the only ones really who have given me feedback besides: "awesome review" or "looks good".

And the truth is, i do have someone proofread them before i post them. I suppose I shall give this person a talking to for letting these slip. Correcting them now.
post #31 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem View Post
awesome shlo. This goes to show you how little people actually read my reviews. You and Darq are the only ones really who have given me feedback besides: "awesome review" or "looks good".

And the truth is, i do have someone proofread them before i post them. I suppose I shall give this person a talking to for letting these slip. Correcting them now.

I doubt it means people aren't reading them, just that same as actually proofreading is a pain in the ass, so is remarking about proofreading. I just happen to have an eye for the mundane.

Some tricks, which you may already know, but actually work for grammar and readability.
Obviously, have a stranger read it is a great one. Also, read it out loud to yourself. Or better yet, have the stranger read it out loud to you. that way you guys can pick up both grammar and see if they are pacing it and connecting the continuous sentence structure in the way you intend it. Sometimes meaning can get lost when multiple sentences aren't constructed in the right way to make them more 'readable'. Having them read it aloud the first time they are seeing it further exacerbates this effect, IMO. Usually the writer is too intimately involved to make themselves objective enough at picking this stuff up.

On of the best things you can do alone is read it out loud, one sentence at a time (really, really slowly). By this I mean, basically, don't read it continuously, or move on to the next sentence until the previous one is totally in your head, and you could repeat it aloud without looking at the page. It's hard to do at first, and takes a long time, but it works well for me to do this on important writing.
Finally, don't rely on your spellchecker alone to pick up mis-spells, or to auto-correct each mis-spelling. Often times it will either skip a wrong word because it isn't a misspelled word (see the Bolded word 'creates' below in your paragraph). Actually pay close attention when you are going through this step, re-reading the entire sentence whenever it gives you even a little spelling or tiny grammar error, to make sure that sentence sounds totally clear.

Other, much smaller things I noticed:
Think about your writing voice, by which I mean are you writing it first person, 3rd person, active, passive, etc... not sure which you are supposed to do for reviews ( ), but whichever it is, you want to avoid jumping from one to another. For example, using 'I liked....' in one sentence, followed by 'You have to.....' in the next one. Or from past tense to present tense...etc. Yeah, this sucks to pay attention to, but again, I assume the reason you are asking for feedback is to make them more on a 'professional' level.

Another one is to work on and refine your wordiness a little. It might be your personal style but sometimes it gets in the way of content. Trust me, I struggle with this alot every day in any writing or speaking I do.
For example:

'Nothing drastic has changed from the single player campaigns to the multiplayer campaigns except you can decide whether or not players want random creates to appear and offer rank upgrades to your units or cash rewards. Another option you can change when you host a game is the speed, fast medium or slow, but these were all options in previous Command and Conquer games. However, the one new cool feature for multiplayer campaigns is the ability to broadcast your game to anyone who downloads a free client Battlecast. Expect to see some competivie leagues supporting C&C3.'

Could be written:

'Multiplayer campaigns have most of the same features as previous versions. One popular feature that persists is variable game speed: fast, medium, or slow. A notable change which adds variety is the ability to toggle random crate drops which offer rank upgrades or cash rewards. Additionally, a very cool new feature for multiplayer campaigns is the ability to broadcast your game to anyone who downloads a free client Battlecast. Expect to see some competitive leagues supporting C&C3.'

This way you are going from existing features preserved, to new, to new&cool features. Instead of before where it was jumping around more between those things. Also, I've reduced it from like 96 words to 80 words without reducing the content.
Check over each sentence and make sure there is substance in all of them. It doesn't hurt to read each sentence with 2 highlighters, one for 'substance' and one for 'filler'. After highlighting each sentence completely, part with the 'content' color, and part with the 'filler' color, see how much of the filler you can eliminate.
Maximizing content in a review is difficult enough without making the review too long, but if you have too much bloated filler, it's even harder. Always try to maximize content while still making it an enjoyable and not too dense a read, should be your goal.

These seem nit-picky, but in the grand scheme of things, will give your review a more polished feel over-all, I think.
I will say you already have a key component to reviews, which is that you are talking about computer games, which are a tool for 'fun'. Your reviews always appropriately address that, both by their style and substance. They showcase your intense desire to find 'fun' in the game, and the writing style is part of that. Don't lose that and get too robotic in your writing, by which I mean, don't listen to all of my advice all the time.
post #32 of 68
Thread Starter 
jeeze shlo FTW. I'm glad you care this much. NBF ftw. thank you.
post #33 of 68
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Originally Posted by shlo_mo_shun View Post
I doubt it means people aren't reading them, just that same as actually proofreading is a pain in the ass, so is remarking about proofreading. I just happen to have an eye for the mundane.

Some tricks, which you may already know, but actually work for grammar and readability.
Obviously, have a stranger read it is a great one. Also, read it out loud to yourself. Or better yet, have the stranger read it out loud to you. that way you guys can pick up both grammar and see if they are pacing it and connecting the continuous sentence structure in the way you intend it. Sometimes meaning can get lost when multiple sentences aren't constructed in the right way to make them more 'readable'. Having them read it aloud the first time they are seeing it further exacerbates this effect, IMO. Usually the writer is too intimately involved to make themselves objective enough at picking this stuff up.

On of the best things you can do alone is read it out loud, one sentence at a time (really, really slowly). By this I mean, basically, don't read it continuously, or move on to the next sentence until the previous one is totally in your head, and you could repeat it aloud without looking at the page. It's hard to do at first, and takes a long time, but it works well for me to do this on important writing.
Finally, don't rely on your spellchecker alone to pick up mis-spells, or to auto-correct each mis-spelling. Often times it will either skip a wrong word because it isn't a misspelled word (see the Bolded word 'creates' below in your paragraph). Actually pay close attention when you are going through this step, re-reading the entire sentence whenever it gives you even a little spelling or tiny grammar error, to make sure that sentence sounds totally clear.

Other, much smaller things I noticed:
Think about your writing voice, by which I mean are you writing it first person, 3rd person, active, passive, etc... not sure which you are supposed to do for reviews ( ), but whichever it is, you want to avoid jumping from one to another. For example, using 'I liked....' in one sentence, followed by 'You have to.....' in the next one. Or from past tense to present tense...etc. Yeah, this sucks to pay attention to, but again, I assume the reason you are asking for feedback is to make them more on a 'professional' level.

Another one is to work on and refine your wordiness a little. It might be your personal style (it's mine too) but sometimes it gets in the way. For example:

'Nothing drastic has changed from the single player campaigns to the multiplayer campaigns except you can decide whether or not players want random creates to appear and offer rank upgrades to your units or cash rewards. Another option you can change when you host a game is the speed, fast medium or slow, but these were all options in previous Command and Conquer games. However, the one new cool feature for multiplayer campaigns is the ability to broadcast your game to anyone who downloads a free client Battlecast. Expect to see some competivie leagues supporting C&C3.'

Could be written:

'Multiplayer campaigns have most of the same features as previous versions. One popular feature that persists is variable game speed: fast, medium, or slow. One notable change is the ability to toggle random crate drops which offer rank upgrades or cash rewards. Additionally, a very cool new feature for multiplayer campaigns is the ability to broadcast your game to anyone who downloads a free client Battlecast. Expect to see some competitive leagues supporting C&C3.'

This way you are going from existing features preserved, to new, to new&cool features. Instead of before where it was jumping around more between those things. Also, I've reduced it from like 96 words to 76 words without reducing the content.
Check over each sentence and make sure there is substance in all of them. It doesn't hurt to read each sentence with 2 highlighters, one for 'substance' and one for 'filler'. After highlighting each sentence completely, part with the 'content' color, and part with the 'filler' color, see how much of the filler you can eliminate.
Maximizing content in a review is difficult enough without making the review too long, but if you have too much bloated filler, it's even harder. Always try to maximize content while still making it an enjoyable and not too dense a read, should be your goal.

These seem nit-picky, but in the grand scheme of things, will give your review a more polished feel over-all, I think.

tl;dr...


LOL. I was a writing fellow in college. Basically that meant that my part-time job was proofreading term papers. It was cool reading huge essays from different math and sociology classes--i.e. classes that I didn't ever have to take. anyway shlo gives good advice... but certainly does seem to care waaaaay too much about the readability and professionalisim of Duke's game reviews. Slow day at work eh, shlo?
post #34 of 68
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Originally Posted by Investorguy View Post
tl;dr...


LOL. I was a writing fellow in college. Basically that meant that my part-time job was proofreading term papers. It was cool reading huge essays from different math and sociology classes--i.e. classes that I didn't ever have to take. anyway shlo gives good advice... but certainly does seem to care waaaaay too much about the readability and professionalisim of Duke's game reviews. Slow day at work eh, shlo?

whats wrong with enjoying my writing?
post #35 of 68
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Originally Posted by Investorguy View Post
Slow day at work eh, shlo?
bingo!

Just waiting till tonight so I can go watch my Mariners kick Duke's RedSox asses again. Last night we did it with Jeff Weaver. BoSox F'ing suck if they can't hit that guy.

Look for me on TV, I'll be standing behind the BoSox bullpen talking shit to their pitchers while they warmup....again.
We talked so much shit to Timlin last night, I know we were in his head as he gave up those back to back HR's.
Papelbon actually talked back to us, which was cool, I guess, except he's a douche.
It's a fine line, you can talk smack, but it has to be somewhat silly and distracting. Actually act too drunk and beligerent and they'll toss you out.
post #36 of 68
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Originally Posted by shlo_mo_shun View Post
bingo!

post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem View Post

that's not to say I don't enjoy the reads, just that if I were actually busy, I wouldn't have time to respond so much. Don't get all huffy about it, it's just the way it is.
post #38 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dukefrukem View Post
whats wrong with enjoying my writing?

critquing someones writing is the oposite of enjoying it. That takes thoughtful concentration. Just enjoying something would preclude making such constructive criticism.
post #39 of 68
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Investorguy View Post
critquing someones writing is the oposite of enjoying it. That takes thoughtful concentration. Just enjoying something would preclude making such constructive criticism.

so mine arn't worth thoughtful concentration?
post #40 of 68
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Originally Posted by shlo_mo_shun View Post
that's not to say I don't enjoy the reads, just that if I were actually busy, I wouldn't have time to respond so much. Don't get all huffy about it, it's just the way it is.

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