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Warning: Toshiba is not honoring Vista upgrade

post #1 of 22
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I bought a Toshiba laptop at CC a month ago and since, I've been trying to place my order for the free Vista upgrade through Toshiba upgrade web page. I keep getting a message saying that my Certificate of Authenticity (COA) is not valid. After writing about 10 times to them, being asked to send my COA to be reset, and still being unable to place my order, I called their service and basically was told that "they will take a look".

It looks that Toshiba is selling computers not properly licensed and now that we need to upgrade it, we are in trouble. If you decide to buy a Toshiba laptop thinking that you are going to get the Vista for free, think twice.

Their customer service is really bad. The person that answered me (Amber) was basically unable to do anything. She didn't even understood the problem and finally she neglected me the possibility to speak to a supervisor (there was no supervisor at that time!).

By the way, I also called CircuitCity and they told me that they have nothing to do with the promotion because it was handled by Toshiba. Of course, when I bought the the computer, they assured me that I was getting the upgrade (same thing on their web page) and never told me that it was through Toshiba. Again the old trick of deceiving.

Anybody been through this nightmare?
post #2 of 22
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Originally Posted by LuisA
I bought a Toshiba laptop at CC a month ago and since, I've been trying to place my order for the free Vista upgrade through Toshiba upgrade web page. I keep getting a message saying that my Certificate of Authenticity (COA) is not valid. After writing about 10 times to them, being asked to send my COA to be reset, and still being unable to place my order, I called their service and basically was told that "they will take a look".

It looks that Toshiba is selling computers not properly licensed and now that we need to upgrade it, we are in trouble. If you decide to buy a Toshiba laptop thinking that you are going to get the Vista for free, think twice.

Their customer service is really bad. The person that answered me (Amber) was basically unable to do anything. She didn't even understood the problem and finally she neglected me the possibility to speak to a supervisor (there was no supervisor at that time!).

By the way, I also called CircuitCity and they told me that they have nothing to do with the promotion because it was handled by Toshiba. Of course, when I bought the the computer, they assured me that I was getting the upgrade (same thing on their web page) and never told me that it was through Toshiba. Again the old trick of deceiving.

Anybody been through this nightmare?

okay first of all there is ZERO need for the alarmist title. issues happen all the time in regards to programs and mistakes are made. the upgrades are administered through microsoft and in all honesty it was never toshibas idea to offer the program at all. the reason that the program was offered at all was because microsoft knew that with vista on the horizon it would kill new pc sales as people waited for vista. if you want to be mad at someone be mad at microsoft, just like the dell owners out there still waiting for their upgrades too.

as for the bad experience on the phone, sorry to say it but that is possible no matter which company you buy from. there is always a risk of having a bad time on the phone but that doesnt mean that you should flame the whole company. you have no proof that toshiba has sold machines that were improperly licensed only that at some point there is an issue with the code you were given to access the upgrade.

thank you.
post #3 of 22
While I agree that this shouldn't be an "alarmist' title, be aware that MSFT has nothing to do with administering the Express Upgrade process. It's fully handled by each individual OEM. I have three contacts at MSFT that confirmed that to me independently in the last 2 weeks. You'll also notice that each OEM is charging differently for it, from Free all the way up to $60 with some of them.

You have to deal with Toshiba on this one and keep persistent. Also note that almost every OEM seems to be having glitches right now with the process and as far as I know, no one has received their upgrade DVD yet.

Make sure to keep your receipts, especially those showing date of purchase on the system. That's your fall back there. I'm sure Toshiba will sort it out for you it just may take some time. It's frustrating for them almost as much as it is for you.

Good luck.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Fidget: If you search the CircuitCity forum, you'll see that a representative of that store confirmed that there is more people with problems with the upgrade. I believe that after more than ten times trying to place my order in different ways and not getting anyware, and knowing that there is other people with the same problem, It is absolutely true that Toshiba is not honoring what they offered. Is it an operational problem or fraud? I don't know. All I know is that I am unable to get what I was offered. You might not like what I say but, it doesn't change the fact. Are you related to Toshiba? Trying to blame Microsoft of Toshiba's fault is not the right way to defend a company.
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by LuisA
Fidget: If you search the CircuitCity forum, you'll see that a representative of that store confirmed that there is more people with problems with the upgrade. I believe that after more than ten times trying to place my order in different ways and not getting anyware, and knowing that there is other people with the same problem, It is absolutely true that Toshiba is not honoring what they offered. Is it an operational problem or fraud? I don't know, is that I am unable to get what I was offered. You might not like what I say but, it doesn't change the fact. Are your related to Toshiba? Trying to blame Microsoft of Toshiba's fault is not not the right way to defend a company.


i have no relationship in a paid capacity to any manufacturer, in fact at the moment i dont even own a toshiba laptop.

that said, yes there are others who have issues with it, hell im sure that the number is in the hundreds. that doesnt change the fact that every manufacturer who has been offering the upgrade prior to the vista release is having serious issues. NOBODY has got their upgrade dvd's yet, so its you and thousands of other people waiting. dell owners are still waiting on mass for theirs too. there is at this point zero reason to accuse any manufacturer of fraud.

as for microsoft, a certain amount of the blame for the issues in the vista express-upgrade program does lay with them. ultimately it is their product and they were the ones who initially decided to offer the program. as i explained before they didnt have much choice because they were essentially forced by the major computer manufacturers.

i can understand you are mad, we all would be in that situation however there is nothing more you can do at this point than to wait a bit and keep trying. yes there are issues, every company is having issues with this vista upgrade program. its not a matter of me liking what you say, i really dont care what you say, its a matter of looking at the facts and the fact is that no fraud has been committed or attempted so making an accusation of fraud is wrong. as i said, you are mad, and its understandable but you will get your upgrade it just may not be as fast as you would prefer, the promise will be kept in the end.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
I hope things go as you said, and I finally get my Vista..... oh wait, I have until the end of this month to place my order, and I can't do that because their system is not taking my COA and they don't allow me to place my order by phone untill my COA is cleared!

I've been trying with these guys for more than a month now without results, I probably I am going to be in the same way at the end of the month. Then Toshiba is going to say that I didn't place the orden on time. It is exactly the same thing when you send a mail-in rebate and are told that it wasn't postmarked on time. I am not as lucky as all the other hundreds of guy that "just" haven't got their upgrade yet. I don't even have an order placed. That makes me mad.
post #7 of 22
Toshiba isn't a company known for intentionally screwing people out of what is legitimately theirs.

If I were you I would keep a log of the times and people you've spoken to at Toshiba including extension numbers if applicable.

Try to speak to a supervisor again soon and explain the situation and get their contact info. Better yet, try to get an email confirmation that details Toshiba's planned action to accommodate your unusual circumstances so that you have it in writing.

I have no doubt with all the info in-hand Toshiba will sort it out for you in due course.
post #8 of 22
I just bought a Toshiba A100-172 two weeks ago from Futureshop. The machine is loaded with XP Media Center 2005, and Toshiba offer a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium.

At first I tried to go to the website to do the upgrade, but i encounter the exactly same problem as you do. Then I tried my luck by phone, after wait almost 30 minute listening to music and "thank you for calling...", I finally get through. The customer service gave me another weblink, but the same result. So she decided to help me register, i need to tell her all the information, like, machine model, serial#, COA, software version, my address, name, and VISA (I wanted to pay by VISA). After all this she gave me a confirmation#. The upgrade is free, but CA$20 for S&H. Now all I need to do is send a copy of receipt and confirmation#.

I would say it is a bit frustrated cause it took me one hour on the computer (try to register via internet) and another hour on the phone. But it is still possible if you try throught other method. They do need some work on the internet work.
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by bayin
I just bought a Toshiba A100-172 two weeks ago from Futureshop. The machine is loaded with XP Media Center 2005, and Toshiba offer a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium.

I know this is off-topic but I've been trying to find some reviews on this laptop. Bayin, what is your impressions of the A100-172 so far? And excuse me for asking, but how much did you pay for it? Thanks in advance.
post #10 of 22
This is my first laptop. I used an IBM laptop six years ago for about 2-3 years, but that laptop is like from stone-age in today's point of view, there is just no comparison. What I want to say is that I am unable to provide you a comparison of my Toshiba with other laptops.

I bought the laptop in Futureshop for $1099 before tax, Futureshop reduced price one week later, so I went there and did a price match. So final price is $1099x1.14 - $114 = $1139 including tax.

Usually I use this laptop for web browsing, programming, and watch movies. And I am quite satisfied with it so far. Core2Duo CPU and 1G memory is enough for me to run SQL Server, Visual Studio and IIS altogether and I didn't experience any latency.

I might upgrade memory to 2G in two years time, because I think Vista will require more memory to perform well, for now it is more than enough.

The screen display is very clear, but if you have a light hanging over your back, you might find it very annoying.

I don't play games on the computer, so I cannot tell you if it is good for game or not.

One thing I find a little disappointing, the battery seems cannot hold very long, I said this because i close the latop (suspend mode) for 8 hours and open again, the battery indicator tell me only 67% power left.

Another thing you should notice is this laptop have no Mic, I used MSN messenger sometimes and found this inconvinient.

This laptop comes with English and French keyboard, so you can see red french symbol on some of the keys, I don't understand French, but this never bothers me.

Generally, I am very satisfied with this laptop.
post #11 of 22
In Canada there is a problem with the company that is taking care of the Vista Upgrade.... it is in the midst of being sorted out. It is not on all notebooks.

BTW...sorry I have been gone for awhile
post #12 of 22
BTW...stupid title....
post #13 of 22
Nice to see you back. Was wondering where you were. Yeah, a bit of an alarmist I would say.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by YP5 Toronto
BTW...stupid title....


im just glad to have some extra backup here sayin that it really isnt toshiba trying to fraud people
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
Again, I tried calling to Moduslink today. After trying to placing my order and of course with no success, I was told that they (Moduslink) cannot do anything about resetting the COA and that I had to deal directly with Toshiba. I called Toshiba, and after explaining them all the problems I've been through, I was tokd that I was going to be connected to the department that handles these cases, and they put me through ......Moduslink.
I called again to Toshiba, and this time I was told that they have nothing to do with the problem and that I should talk to Microsoft, then she just put me through Microsoft. The person in MS was very polite but had no clue of what I was talking about. When I asked her to connect me with somebody that knows about the Vista upgrade she offered me connecting to a department that handles that promotion, ...and I was transfered to Moduslink again!
So I talked to other person, and this time he verified that my COA wasn't working and then he made me wait to try to fix the problem. After waiting about 25 minutes, he finally told me that there was nothing he can do, and that I have to send an e-mail to Moduslink. So, who I was talking to? He explained that he was from a associate company of Moduslink, and they were processing order for them, but they cannot fix my problem. He also told me that the last information he had was that there was about 80,000 e-mails pending to be answered.
I don't now if that last part is true, but that could explain why I am getting e-mail replies that don't analize my case, and look more like a general answer. Probably is an automated system or a simple copy and paste of previous answers.
So, is Moduslink is unable to handle this promotion, why did Toshiba rely on them? What are they doing to fix the problem?
As I understand, nothing, and that is why their customer service people know nothing but to blame it on others. (Second time I hear about been all Microsoft fault).

I was told that Moduslink was given the COA numbers by Toshiba, so in the end, it is Toshiba's fault for not providing the right information. I read that there is people that don't agree with the title of this thread but, willingly or not, Toshiba is responsible for the problem.
post #16 of 22
Tripped post - the quick reply function hangs and hangs and hangs!
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Tripped post - the quick reply function hangs and hangs and hangs!
post #18 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by bayin
This is my first laptop. I used an IBM laptop six years ago for about 2-3 years, but that laptop is like from stone-age in today's point of view, there is just no comparison. What I want to say is that I am unable to provide you a comparison of my Toshiba with other laptops.

I bought the laptop in Futureshop for $1099 before tax, Futureshop reduced price one week later, so I went there and did a price match. So final price is $1099x1.14 - $114 = $1139 including tax.

Usually I use this laptop for web browsing, programming, and watch movies. And I am quite satisfied with it so far. Core2Duo CPU and 1G memory is enough for me to run SQL Server, Visual Studio and IIS altogether and I didn't experience any latency.

I might upgrade memory to 2G in two years time, because I think Vista will require more memory to perform well, for now it is more than enough.

The screen display is very clear, but if you have a light hanging over your back, you might find it very annoying.

I don't play games on the computer, so I cannot tell you if it is good for game or not.

One thing I find a little disappointing, the battery seems cannot hold very long, I said this because i close the latop (suspend mode) for 8 hours and open again, the battery indicator tell me only 67% power left.

Another thing you should notice is this laptop have no Mic, I used MSN messenger sometimes and found this inconvinient.

This laptop comes with English and French keyboard, so you can see red french symbol on some of the keys, I don't understand French, but this never bothers me.

Generally, I am very satisfied with this laptop.

Thanks for the reply! My use of the laptop will be similar to your use except I don't program and I am not a gamer by any means. I don't think I need a Core 2 Duo as I still have a primary desktop that covers all my needs right now. The laptop is just something I need to do assignments with and potentially watch some films, maybe photoshopping...nothing too extreme. I saw the A100-172 at Staples for $997 and thought it was a good deal with the specs it comes with. I could get away with probably anything entry level but I want to upgrade to Vista eventually, so if I saw a Core Duo in the $600 range, I would jump on it in a heartbeat but those types of deals are quickly picked up by the opportunistic vultures whenever they occur.

Again, thanks for your opinion!
post #19 of 22
My online application went through without a hitch. I it has been at least two weeks since my order. I called for an update and the recording says the usual 4 - 6 weeks line. So, I wait.
post #20 of 22
I also have the same problem.
I also went through all the channels.
It took many months to get to the stage of being registered but my shipping date is blank still.
Shipping fee is $0
If Moduslink is charging a fee then they are just keeping it as profit.
I just meet someone who willing paid express shipping of $50 and he got his upgrade
a long time ago. So profit is a motivation.
My shipping fee is zero so they keep losing my emailed proof of purchase even
though I receive their auto reply of confirmation. After a month and many emails
later I am registered.

Only more recently has Toshiba Canada bothered to include a feedback form,
mention that ModusLink is not maintained by Toshiba, "Toshiba, Microsoft and Moduslink
are aware of the problems encountered on the Moduslink website and are diligently
working on resolving the issues." comment and that Toshiba will honour orders after the
deadline.

In this day and age, it is sad to say that many simple alternatives could have been
implemented for Toshiba Canada customers trying to register for their upgrade.
They should have been able to resolve their own issues in a couple of days.
It is also scary that they cannot match high tech with the real world.
I definitely do not trust them to lead the future in any major way!
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