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post #21 of 48
3/5/07 at 4:02am
They m90 and the m1710 both have the same chasis (hole for the docking frame) The e1705 does not have that. The m90's only real (if you call it real) difference is there is a middle button between the two touchpad mouse buttons that you can program as you like.
Persoanlly, I would invest in the m1710 as it wil indeed sell much much easier. Also that glowing touchpad XPS is cool.
Put that lights program in it and make it "breath" or whatever. The M90 is the worst of the 3 investments as it costs a sht load and does not sell very good. If you can do without the lights, buy a e1705 and mod the bottom and top case. I would buy one from the outlet next time more coupons come out. You can get the case mods anywhere and the frickin directions to change EVERY SINGLE PIECE of the PC from DELL website..
ps...XPS tech support kinda blows IMHO....I sat on the phone on hold for an hour the other day when I had a motherboard go bad, the tech kept trying to convice me it was my hard drive....
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post #22 of 48
3/5/07 at 10:33am
I will agree with darkloki. My friend and I both sold our notebooks at the same time. Mine: a 9300 with a PM 780, 80 gig 5400, 1.5 ram and 6800 ultra

My frinds xps2: PM 760, 1 gb ram, 60 gig 7200, 6800 ultra and a shitload of scratches and nicks. I have called he dude griswald for years now.

Mine was faster but his was an xps. and he got 300 more for his just cause it's an xps 1100 for mine 1400 for his both on ebay.

An xps will be easier to sell and will fetch more
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post #23 of 48
3/5/07 at 1:28pm
Just because your friend sold his XPS for more than your 9300, and Darkloki saying an XPS will get more, does not mean, what so ever, your last statement "An XPS will be easier to sell and will fetch more" is correct.

Exceptions do not prove, or disprove anything. He may have gotten 300 more, but im telling right now, when you both bought your laptops new, he payed WAY MORE than 300 more than you. (Assuming they were purchased around the same time).

I put out 1800 for my e1705 + GTX, for all new parts. 6 months later, it sold for 1575. 225 loss. Good luck buying a new m1710, and selling it for a 225 loss 6 months later.
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post #24 of 48
3/5/07 at 1:48pm
I just bought mine on friday. for 1819.00 from dell oulet. I could sell it on ebay now and probably make a small profit.
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post #25 of 48
3/5/07 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by nissanztt90
Good luck buying a new m1710,
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Originally Posted by melshaw
I just bought mine on friday. for 1819.00 from dell oulet.
Follow? Heres one more:
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Originally Posted by nissanztt90
and selling it for a 225 loss 6 months later
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Originally Posted by melshaw
I could sell it on ebay now and probably make a small profit.
And no, you would not sell it for a profit, especially not after ebay and paypal fees. But if you think so, then good luck.
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post #26 of 48
3/5/07 at 2:54pm
haha
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post #27 of 48
3/5/07 at 6:58pm
I switched from the XPS line to a 9400. I miss the Gigabit port, although with the Expresscard slot I could spend $80 at Newegg and get the Xterasys one if I really feel the need - and it supports Jumbo Frames too, something the drivers on the XPS do not.

Other than that, there is no difference. The UXGA screens are exactly the same, I should know I stared at them side by side enough while I transferred everything over. D-Port? I guess if I wanted to spend $400+ on a docking solution so I could save maybe 15 seconds unplugging and plugging cables in I'd miss that, but my generic $40 APC stand serves just fine. The XPS has fancy lights/shell and I prefer the black outline over white but I wouldn't pay near $800, new, in premium for that - and that's with both of them having a 7900GS.

Back when I got my XPS 2 it was a good deal since the 9300 didn't have nearly as good a video solution at the time (I'm aware they improved it later). Nowadays the 1710 vs the 9400 is a much narrower choice, especially since you can overclock the 7900GS so easily to nearly match the 7950. I wouldn't buy an XPS laptop new at this time, the models are just too close while the prices aren't.
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post #28 of 48
3/5/07 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by ixian
Other than that, there is no difference. The UXGA screens are exactly the same, I should know I stared at them side by side enough while I transferred everything over.
This makes me curious. Are you saying Dell has been lying about the brightness of the screens? Then I checked it out and it seems Dell *has* changed their description of the screens: http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/learnmore/learnmore.aspx?c=uk&&l=en&s=bsd&~id=screen&~lt=popup&~series=all&ref=CFG All 17" Ultrasharp WUXGA screens are now listed as 250 nits, so this difference is no more. I wonder whether there *was* a difference in the early models though.
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post #29 of 48
3/5/07 at 7:56pm
My XPS M1710 is noticeably brighter than my e7105, and way way brighter than my gen2.
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post #30 of 48
3/5/07 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Spinitch
My XPS M1710 is noticeably brighter than my e7105, and way way brighter than my gen2.
Right.... so the question now becomes, when did you buy them?
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post #31 of 48
3/5/07 at 9:17pm
got them both this year
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post #32 of 48
3/5/07 at 11:06pm
well I had both E1705/9400 and now the m1710.

I picked up my m1710 from the outlet for 2100 CDN.
I had sold my tricked up 9400 for 1850.00
So it was not that much more.
The XPS loks way Cooler
It runs Lower temps.
it has XPS Support
definitely has a better screen LG vs the samsung in my E1705

and IMO, the case on the XPS is better quality
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post #33 of 48
3/5/07 at 11:22pm
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Originally Posted by Spinitch
My XPS M1710 is noticeably brighter than my e7105, and way way brighter than my gen2.
I think that depends if you get a Samsung or a LG LCD. Both are fully compatible with both PC's. I like the Sammy better but it's just a matter of pref.
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post #34 of 48
3/5/07 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by dave-p
well I had both E1705/9400 and now the m1710. I picked up my m1710 from the outlet for 2100 CDN. I had sold my tricked up 9400 for 1850.00 So it was not that much more. The XPS loks way Cooler It runs Lower temps. it has XPS Support definitely has a better screen LG vs the samsung in my E1705 and IMO, the case on the XPS is better quality
The first is a matter of opinion. Some folks think the XPS look is way over done. Temps have nothing to do with whether it's an XPS or not. XPS Support is marginally better than regular Dell in my own experience, with the chief difference being wait times. And finally whether you get LG or Samsung is a matter of luck, not XPS. As for build quality, I couldn't say one way or another, the 1710 feels "solid" but is also heavier - much heavier if you count it's 130w Power supply vs. the 90w Power supply of the 9400.
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post #35 of 48
3/6/07 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by ixian
Temps have nothing to do with whether it's an XPS or not. As for build quality, I couldn't say one way or another, the 1710 feels "solid" but is also heavier - much heavier if you count it's 130w Power supply vs. the 90w Power supply of the 9400.
The M1710 is a bit heavier for two reasons - the power supply and dual heat pipes. The latter is also why it runs cooler. 9400/e1705: M1710:
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post #36 of 48
3/6/07 at 8:09am
Some of you guys really crack me up.
Buncha "mad dealers, yo" - aintcha? "Big playas!"
Gimme a break.
Every 3 or 4 months you guys buy gaming laptops with crappy speakers, pretty lights and a kick-ass graphics card and then grow bored like a child, upgrade, and sell the old one. Those models are toys for lil' rich kids. Nobody uses those things for professional purposes, and those who do use their laptop for professional purposes aren't looking to upgrade to the latest & greatest every 3 months because they get easily bored of their new penis size.
At least enter in the application in conversations like this. You'll find that there are two very distinctly different conversations.
The OP wanted to know some physical differences, not resale preference.

...And when it comes right down to it, unless you're looking to resell these things, the higher price tag just doesn't seem to justify those purdy lights.
(Though I must admit I did buy some 69 cent LEDs and spray paint to for my 9200 in case I start feeling inadequate. )
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post #37 of 48
3/6/07 at 9:41am
Somebody has sand in their vagina.
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post #38 of 48
3/6/07 at 11:06am
I know it has dual heat pipes. I also know that they are mainly if you spring for the overpriced 7950; as many users on this forum can attest the 7900GS with one heat pipe overclock just fine to levels that are near the performance of the 7950. My point that the 1710 is overpriced for what you get still stands, once again the 9400, while not EXACT, is too CLOSE in performance to justify the premium.

But hey, it's your money.
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post #39 of 48
3/6/07 at 11:49am
Just thought I'd like to put in that I got my M1710 for $300 more than I sold my XPS M170 for a month ago.
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post #40 of 48
3/6/07 at 11:55am
This thread is stupid now.
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