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post #21 of 40
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just something i noticed...

don't fool yourself into thinking you're going to get three hours out of that machine. you will get 2 1/2...maybe 2 hrs. and 45 minutes on a good day.

if i hadn't bought my 6805 emachine, i would've bought from ibuypower. such a great deal going right now on that system...
Andrew, you are making a claim on 2 different laptops. Even tho the 2 machines may be powered with the Athlon64, that does not mean they will both have the same battery life. Your machine, the emachine model 6805 is a totally different baseline laptop... lots of factors play in here, different screen size, different battery, etc.

The 'other' machine that we are talking about here, the Voodoo M:855, or also known as its ODM model, Mitach 8355, is again a different laptop from the one you have. (only a 15" screen, larger 12-cell battery)

If you dont believe me, Anandtech has reviewed this twice already, here is the link:

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1921&p=9

Look at their chart for battery performance.
Voodoo m:855 gets 197 minutes according to their benchmark tests.
197 = 3.2 hours

"Voodoo accomplishes an impressive battery life with a large cell battery pack. After all, a bit after 3 hours, the M:855 is still kicking, which makes it a very powerful road warrior. The weight of the battery pack for the M:855 is really no different than battery packs on other even beefier desktop replacement notebooks. For this reason, we are even more thoroughly impressed with battery life."

3.2 hours to be exact...
the 'weight' of the battery pack is in regards to its big 12 cell battery it uses
not hte normal 6cell (usually found in centrino) or 8cell batteries

theres another review of this somewhere else out there that has the same results... even voodoo's website says the mobility rating of this is excellent and that the notebook has 3+ hours, making it one of their most mobile laptops, 2nd only to the little centrino that they have.
post #22 of 40
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Originally Posted by rincewind
100 rebate worked in shopping cart again... just tried it...
and i looked over the rebate offer itself...

"Purchase any CyberPower Complete System worth $1,499 or more and we will take $100 off the computer purchase price. To get the $100 instant Rebate discount just simply enter "Super" on the coupon code section of our shopping cart."

ANY COMPLETE SYSTEM... the add shows desktops, but if u scroll down to the bottom, there are laptops to choose from VALID for the rebate...

"any complete system" includes their laptops
Ibuypower's 5% coupon only applies to their desktops. I wasn't talking bout Cyberpower's deal.
post #23 of 40
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oh my bad,

well ibuypower.com is where i ordered it from and i was able to put the coupon in no problem...

i toyed with cyberpower.com's also and got a total of 1870 something with same specs..

i chose ibuypower.com tho coz it was 1840
post #24 of 40
It's kool man, price is still good though. Now I just wonder if their staff is open for negotiation. BTW, any idea who the OEM is? I just want to know what brand of parts(e.g hard drive) they use with this machine since I have never bought from a OEM reseller before.
post #25 of 40
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mitach 8335 is the odm...
post #26 of 40
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whats left to negotiate?

this thing costs 3100 dollars at voodoo

2500+ at hypersonic

this site has it for 1800 >_<
post #27 of 40
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Originally Posted by Darius
It's kool man, price is still good though. Now I just wonder if their staff is open for negotiation. BTW, any idea who the OEM is? I just want to know what brand of parts(e.g hard drive) they use with this machine since I have never bought from a OEM reseller before.
I tried to negotiate as a resseller also. Don't bother, they said it was already as low as they can go, and they don't have much of a reseller program to begin with.
post #28 of 40
in reference to the battery comment, sure...i know they are two different laptops...and i understand everything that you wrote about.

however...

i've used both machines... and i've read all the same reviews that you have. and i've read all the same specs that you have. actually, if you want to get technical...you should check out this review:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=336

voodoo definitely does some different things to their PCs to make them a little different than a regular ODM laptop.

anyway...so...bottom line is that i'm pretty positive that you won't get that much battery life out of it, or at least that's what my experience with the mitac 8355 is.

swell...

.a.
post #29 of 40
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yes they do different things

mainly auto paint and jacking up the price

i dont see how that review gets anymore technical then the one done by anandtech... i saw that review b4 and it doesnt discuss anything about the battery life benchmark wise.

well time will tell when my system arrives...
post #30 of 40
hehe! indeed...

i was referring to the part in the review where there was a speed difference between it and pretty much the same machine...the evesham computer? can't remember exactly.

they also mention something about tweaking the keyboard, and i also remember reading something else (not in this particular review) about how they worked with mitac on the cooling thing. there are several articles that are referenced on the amd64notebook.com board...but i'm too lazy to go look at them again...

anyway...sorry...don't want to bring you down on your purchase. it's awesome! i just get a little peeved at the specs that the manufacturers give out about things like that. real world useage tends to be a little different.

.a.
post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by .andrew.
in reference to the battery comment, sure...i know they are two different laptops...and i understand everything that you wrote about.

however...

i've used both machines... and i've read all the same reviews that you have. and i've read all the same specs that you have. actually, if you want to get technical...you should check out this review:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=336

voodoo definitely does some different things to their PCs to make them a little different than a regular ODM laptop.

anyway...so...bottom line is that i'm pretty positive that you won't get that much battery life out of it, or at least that's what my experience with the mitac 8355 is.

swell...

.a.
Look, both systems are identical. You think the 5680 on Sager is Different from the one on hypersonic. They are both identical. ONly difference would be , like what was said, is the price, paintjob, and customer service. the Mitac 8335 is the exact same one from voodoo vs cyberpower or so on. Its not like they put better hardware, they're identical in hardware, so how would one system get better performance than another.
Mind you both use same system and company.
post #32 of 40
you know, deadlok, now that i go back...let's clarify what i was originally talking about.

i have an emachine 6805. he mentioned that he's going to get 3+ hours of battery life out of the machine he bought, which looks like it's the same thing you have.

i replied and said that i didn't think he'd get 3+ hours of it...and this is due to my experience with the machine that you two have. a friend has one as well, and he doesn't get 3+ hours of battery life out of it.

yeah...anyway....so, it's good that you decided to hop in because you have the same machine that this guy just ordered...what kind of battery life do you get out of yours?

____________

definitely! i agree with you. they are the same system. but...i think that voodoo may possibly do a few extra things with the systems.

i promise you i'm not just pulling this out of my ass... some of the things i've read lead me to believe this. i'll pull some quotes for you:

"...engineering sample used by Voodoo to tinker around with the M:855’s thermal budget..." - this is from an anandtech review. tinker around with thermal budget? that would lead me to think that perhaps they do something to modify the cases. can i say for sure? nope. i've never seen the insides of that machine.

here's another one from that same article:

"Voodoo was still playing around with heat dissipation and airflow right before we got in the labs. There was originally going to be two horizontal vents, but Voodoo has decided to revamp the design a bit by removing the vents in that location, which will be effective as of production units."

you can see where one might make a guess that voodoo does something different than the other companies that are selling this laptop.

From Trusted Review, again, comparing two machines that are supposed to be exactly the same (Evesham)

"In PCMark 2002, the CPU scores were relatively close at 6,476 for the M:855 and 6,117 for the Voyager 64"

"But in our final head to head using SYSmark 2002, the M:855 was again a clear winner banking an overall score of 299 verses 214, with Office Productivity and Internet Content Creation coming in at 222 and 403 respectively against the Voyager 64’s 162 and 283."

this could all be due to the type of memory used and the type of hard drive used i suppose. i'm not enough of a tech head to be able say "this is why it is...", and i don't have any real desire to.

and in real world performance, there's probably not a bit of difference...that's where it really counts anyway. i'd love to know for certain if voodoo does something more to get their computers running faster....

sorry that you think i'm stupid...i'm just going off what i'm reading. i don't claim to be any kind of expert. just throwing stuff out there for discussion!

.a.
post #33 of 40
wow...i'm surprised someone hasn't come back and responded to this one.

i sure don't like being called stupid though....


.a.
post #34 of 40
ok, no flaming here, my response was directed to the quote you made not you, nothing personal. I attack the idea not the person
post #35 of 40
cool. understood. thanks for letting me know!

.a.
post #36 of 40
The coupon extends, always.
post #37 of 40
yeah i dunno why they just say, "next 5 months the coupon will extend" seems to always be extended day by day
post #38 of 40
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the ibuypower one has ended tho

its not extended from 24th
post #39 of 40
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i just talked to one of the guys at ibuypower.com

they have a dead pixel policy of 3 or more... it can be replaced
post #40 of 40
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Originally Posted by rincewind
the ibuypower one has ended tho

its not extended from 24th
...for those wanting to buy their desktops
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