Looking for a gaming laptop

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Here is an XPS 1710 from the outlet for $1,949.00:

Genuine Windows XP Media Center 2005
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)
60 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
XPS M1710 Notebook: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2GHz/667MHz/4MB)
17 inch (Metallic Black Chassis) UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife
9 Cell Primary BatteryNetwork Interface Card
1500 Wireless Card
Bluetooth Wireless Card

Only 60 GB HD (there are others with bigger HDs) but has 2GB RAM.

sorry but .why would you want to run at 50-100 fps when 30-60 will be same to your eye? i am just curious. i thought human eye couldnt see anything higher than 30fps

You can. Actually it depends on the person. So much is subjective, (I know people who can't even see screen flicker! like when your refresh rate is 60hz on a CRT). You can't see higher than 60 though.

I can tell up to 60, past that, It doesn't feel any different. 40 is pushing it, 50 is fine, and 60 is smooth to me. I'd much rather play with better frame rates than prettier graphics.

I'd consider the E1705 on Outlet... what you configured comes out to be about $1300. No that is not anywhere near the price of the Sager

I have a 7900gs and I am pretty sure I can run fear at 60+FPS with max eye candy on my Toshiba.

Dell XPS 1710, Alienware Area 51 5790, Alienware m9750 (hasn't came out yet but SLI 7950 GTX's with C2D), Hypersonic CX7, ect.

ForceCalibur is on to the truth about framerates. The average human eye cannot make out framerates greater than 30fps, but it can be trained (like by playing lots of games) to see a little higher. However, the real truth is that the framerates higher than 30 translate into smoother human input. Your reflexes can react at speed far greater than 30fps allows, so even if your eye cannot sense a difference in display, your body will feel the lag that results from slower verification of input. it's subtle, but very real. Racing games a great example of this because it's activity that translates into real world experience for most adults. If you play a good racing game at 30fps, there is a good chance you will feel laggy steering as your intitutive action is limited by slower input allowances. 60+ fps is a great rule of thumb for racing games, but also for seasoned players of any other type of action/reaction game. The hand IS quicker than the eye. And realistically, most people like ForceCalibur who claim they can see up to 60 fps really can't, but they can feel it, and have become "trained" to visualize the input lag. If he watched a movies at 24, or 30, or 60 frames persecond (assuming the very same timeline), he most likely wouldn't be able to tell a difference. However, as soon as he is "hooked into" the movie, and his action causes on-screen validation, he will become keenly aware of the lack of fluidity.

If you are going to buy a sager look in the dell outlet. for 2800.00 you get a nice XPS.

Personally I can distinguish 100fps easily. But I found a smooth 40+fps is good enough for me in most cases.

Too bad you are fund limited. I have a supersystem with dock f/s... but I want at LEAST 3k for it.

I agree with a lot of people here. Dell E1705 from outlet is probably your best bet. But I play most PC games on low settings @ 20-30 Fps, and anything above 30 would be perfect. I don't see how you people don't like it if its not above 40 fps.
I wouldn't go with that Toshiba. First I would atleast go with C2D 2.0 ghz, and if want 50-100 FPS then your gonna need 2 GB of Ram. Go with E1705

well that Dell looks fine

the only thing you might consider to "maximize" your notebook is hard drive. 5400 is bit slower than 7200 RPM..so add $60 more and get 100GB 7200RPM if you are going for the "flawless gaming" thing...

i've got the same E1705 with same graphics and processor, same amount of ram but mine is 533 not the 667. the max res that fear extraction point offered was like 1600x1200 i think. i played with the resoulution at max, ever eye candy option maxed, and 4x filtering got an average of around 45-50 fps on the time demos. i experienced no lag at all, no even in big firefights! i've played both fear games, half life 2 (both) including lost coast, swat 4, doom 3, and nothing has slowed this system down yet! the only game that lagged was rainbow six lockdown, but my understanding is that the game isnt really coded well for pc's. i think you would be very pleased with the dell.

i just noticed that my config is the same as the first dell config you listed, not the second. i dont think the processor would make too much of a difference however.