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post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
SO annoying...I turned it off but whenever I reboot the security center tells me I should turn it back on. Is there anyway to have it not ask me to do that without disabling windows firewall etc.

edit: easy fix, theres an option in security center "change how it notifies" in case anyone else was annnoyed
post #2 of 30
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3
I turned it off
Genuinely bad idea, that. Unless of course you are not interested in security, and really like viruses, spyware, and all that crap. UAC will not bother you if you use the system correctly.
post #3 of 30
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everytime I try to install a program i tasks if I'm sure I want to do that. Everytime I extract something with WinRaR it asks me if I want to do that. It won't even let me extract with winrar by right clicking, I have to open up the file and then extract.
post #4 of 30
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3
everytime I try to install a program i tasks if I'm sure I want to do that.
That part is fine; program installation is an administrative task, which requires appropriate privileges. If you are logged in with administrative rights and want to get rid of these confirmation dialogs, you can configure the system accordingly without disabling UAC altogether. Note, however, that you should never log in with administrative privileges for normal use of the system.
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3
Everytime I extract something with WinRaR it asks me if I want to do that. It won't even let me extract with winrar by right clicking, I have to open up the file and then extract.
Now that is annoying, but it is worth noting that such behavior is always a consequence of an application not being Windows-compatible, because the developers were too lazy or incompetent to follow guidelines that exist for about a decade now, and rather develop "DOS programs for Windows". Don't get me started on that one...
post #5 of 30
Thread Starter 
but doesn't disableing UAC just make it so that it doesn't ask you to do that? It's not like i disabled the whole security center

plus, everybody says that by disabling it you're no wosre off than if ur using xp
post #6 of 30
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Originally Posted by stuckinasquare3
but doesn't disableing UAC just make it so that it doesn't ask you to do that?
See here and here for more detailed explanations.
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everybody says that by disabling it you're no wosre off than if ur using xp
While that is kind of true in a way, it's not very helpful. Don't you think it would be good to take advantage of the enhanced security that Vista offers? I would add in parentheses that XP is just fine security-wise, if only it is used competently, meaning that you log in as a Limited User for your day-to-day work.
post #7 of 30
Thread Starter 
I see, the second article gives me some options as for what to do. However, I'm not quite entirely sure which one(s) I'll want to use for myself. Which ones make it so that it won't ask me if I'm sure I want to do something I know that I want to do?
post #8 of 30
I wouldn't mind UAC so much if it didn't black the screen (it seems to change the resolution on my monitor out), I remember reading somewhere you can change how UAC notifies you, can't remember where...
post #9 of 30
UAC was MS overkill imho. I have XP & Zone Alarm...Have been with it for years & have yet to have any viruses. I have it installed on a second partition (Vista 64 Ultimate) & disabled UAC after 2 days of constant annoyance.... Are you really sure you really really wanna do that???? No really, are you??????

I've managed to muddle along so far w/o being raped by the internet & all those terrible ppl out there just looking to get me
post #10 of 30
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Originally Posted by Pirx
Note, however, that you should never log in with administrative privileges for normal use of the system.
Taking this advice from Pirx requires administrative approval. Do you allow this... YES or NO Microsoft should not assume that all users are under the age of 10 and over the age of 60. Some people NEED UAC... actually, most of my clients, but DAMN... If I'm a member of the administrators group UAC needs to STFU. Hence... notification turned off on DAY 1
post #11 of 30
I hate that feature in Vista. I turned it off almost right away.
post #12 of 30
" everybody says that by disabling it you're no wosre off than if ur using xp"


and whats the problem with that, i have ran xp for years with just the builtin firewall and no antivirus. I have never had a virus except for the blaster worm. If youre smart and dont open random things you should almost never get a virus.
post #13 of 30
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Originally Posted by ivan300
...If youre smart...
MS knows the 'smart' people will turn off UAC... Unfortunately, all others probably NEED it.
post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by ivan300
" \t\t\t \t\t\t\teverybody says that by disabling it you're no wosre off than if ur using xp"


and whats the problem with that, i have ran xp for years with just the builtin firewall and no antivirus. I have never had a virus except for the blaster worm. If youre smart and dont open random things you should almost never get a virus.

no problem at all
post #15 of 30
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btw what are ur guys thoughts on Windows Defender? I couldn't get AVG or AVG Anti Spyware to work on vista 64 but avast works so I'm using that and I'm also using spybot which from what I see, doesn't have real time monitoring like windows defender. DO I need spybot with windows defender or does WD suck and I shud just use spybot anyway
post #16 of 30
doesnt spybot have its little teatimer realtime monitoring...I have not used vista so I dont know how it works there...Anyway, i never really saw an advantage in realtime spyware prevention but then again I went quite awhile without virus protection either
post #17 of 30
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i thought teatimer was only for IE, i use firefox
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by PSYCHO
Microsoft should not assume that all users are under the age of 10 and over the age of 60.
This has nothing to do with Microsoft. All modern operating systems have a concept of OS security, and having different levels of user privileges is an integral part of that. The problem is that the typical Windows person is still used to operating the computer like a toy running DOS, which was never even a full operating system in the strict sense of the word. In particular, DOS had no concept of security at all, and neither did the following consumer OS of the Windows variety up to and including Windows ME. This glaring deficit was eventually solved with XP (again, on the consumer side; MS' professional operating systems never had that issue) which would have had the ability to give its users strong security. Now, in preparation for the release of a real operating system for consumers (rather than the toys they sold before) Microsoft had issued guidelines (starting with Windows 95, by the way) for proper coding of Windows-compatible applications, which were supposed to get developers to write reasonable applications (that would not do idiotic stuff, like blithely replacing system files whenever they felt like it, place their own files in system folders, store user settings in system areas of the file system and registry, etc., etc.). Unfortunately, many, many developers simply ignored these guidelines. In addition, even more unfortunately, Microsoft always had a strong commitment to backwards compatibility as their prime goal, trumping everything else. So, seeing that if they simply enforced proper security on their new operating system, by creating users as Limited Users by default (which, mind you, is the equivalent of what every other serious operating system on the planet does, including Unixes, Linux, Mac OS, etc., etc.) they would have a tech support nightmare at their hands, they decided to back out and have users create accounts as administrative accounts by default. That, of course, meant that almost all of the built-in security mechanisms in XP were bypassed, and the system as run by the typical naive user was as vulnerable as ever to all sorts of malware. The consequences are well known: Windows retains a reputation for not being secure (which is nonsense), and people have to load up their machines with all sorts of crap (anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-this-and-that software, third-party firewalls, etc.) which they would have no need for if they ran their machines in a secure configuration. Now, fast-forward to Vista: Microsoft finally decides that they've had enough of this, recognizing, correctly, that it is simply impossible to have a secure operating system if users to dot make use of the vital protection afforded to them by a system of graded user privileges. So now, for the first time in Vista, they in fact force users to always operate under limited privileges (off course, they again partially back out by creating the nightmare of file and registry virtualization, but it would leads me too far to go into that; this post is already way beyond the attention span of the typical NBF visitor ) So, what happens? Because of the crummy software that is still out there , people immediately complain, and have nothing better to do than immediately switching off UAC, and continue to run with administrative privileges. One thing that is important to understand here is the following: If, while running a standard user-mode application, you receive a UAC prompt, then what that means is that either you are dealing with malware, or with a broken application, that is not Windows-compatible and that violates compatibility guidelines that have been out for many years. The proper reaction to this is to complain to the outfit that produced that broken piece of software, and not to Microsoft.
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If I'm a member of the administrators group UAC needs to STFU.
That is easy to accomplish without shutting UAC off. See the link I had given before. You need to disable Admin Approval Mode, not UAC.
post #19 of 30
UAC is made to protect 'puter users from screwing up their machine. I disabled it instantly and my system sped up nice. Disable UAC in the User CP, and to get rid of the security center warnings, you go into security center, choose the option on how it notifies you and deselect all options. Then I disable the security center service.

problem solved.
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by Pirx
...blah blah blah... I like to hear myself talk...
Let's just say, you are entitled to your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Pirx
You need to disable Admin Approval Mode, not UAC.
I'm choosing to turn it off and I will accept the consequences. I have other software to protect from the evil. I don't 'need' to do what you are saying but I know I 'can' do it.
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