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post #1 of 18
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I"m sure that some people have had a good system purchase from Hypersonic. My purchase has been an absolute nightmare. I purchased a Hypersonic PC Aviator AX7 back in July of 2004. I immediately started having problems with wireless LAN card which didn't seem to work. Working with Hypersonic tech support is pretty difficult. As an accountant with a minor IT background my knowledge base is adequate for building and installing new systems. The Hypersonic tech staff seemed to far lower knowledgebase then I did as a part time secondary IT person!

To make a long story short, my Aviator AX7 has had THREE motherboard replacements! Each tech episode with Hypersonic has been extremely difficult requring me to be extremely demanding in order to get them to fix the problem. Finally after two years (of which six months have been spent in Hypersonic location to get fixed) my system went dead again!

This third time took numerous calls on my part to find out the status. I had asked to be notified on the potential costs involved but as usual Hypersonic never returned any of my calls. After 2.5 months of calling they finally stated that it had been repaired. The downside was that I was expected to shell out another 1K in repair costs. The support person refused to give me a breakout of labor versus parts on the repairs. They barely acknowledged that this was the third motherboard replacement on the unit. When I said I wasn't going to shell out an additional 1K on a lemon unit and asked to speak to a manager they hung up on me! Welcome to Hypersonic support. I've sent e-mail to their support e-mail address but as yet they haven't been answered.

In addition to all the problems in trying to get ahold of them and dealing with a lethargic staff who cares not the least about your system problems. They also actively engage in fraud (as far as I'm concerned). When trying to slap on additional charges to the user they end up blaming the customer and claim that you have "liquid damage" (i.e. spilled coffee of something) on the unit and the damage is really your fault! They pulled this trick out twice on me. The first time the system was under warranty and I only had it a few days. I guess they were trying to get more funds for the extra repair work they did on replacing the unit.

So my warning is buyer beware! If you end up getting one of there lemon systems which quickly goes dead don't spend too much time trying to get if fixed. Demand a refund as soon as possible or you will end up looking 2.5K on a worthless system like I did!

If you do end up getting ripped off by them at least put in a consumer complaint with the New York Better Busines Bureau so other potential buyers can be warned.
post #2 of 18
Hmmm. My system runs fine. Some of the damage resides on Clevo and whatever manufacturer they entrust with the motherboard.
But yeah. Hypersonic's tech support team is sub-par. I wish I had known that when I made my purchase, because I would have went with Sager.

Hypersonic seems to be falling apart :[

And pat, whenever you read this, this isn't directed towards you in any way, you seem to be on top of things. But as a company, you guys have a few bad apples.
But Best Buy has way more ;]
same with circuit city, comp usa, and dont get me started on frys.

Its retail, don't expect perfect service.
post #3 of 18
Every company has horror stories. Look in all of the forums, theres gonna be problems. No company is perfect, but I am sorry that you had to go through everything. Hypersonic PC used to be great a like a couple months ago. Now I'm seeing a lot more "I'm going to be an CX7/EX7/FX7/ect." and more "Don't buy Hypersonic" threads.
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by TheFlyingPig
Hmmm. My system runs fine. Some of the damage resides on Clevo and whatever manufacturer they entrust with the motherboard.
But yeah. Hypersonic's tech support team is sub-par. I wish I had known that when I made my purchase, because I would have went with Sager.

Hypersonic seems to be falling apart :[

And pat, whenever you read this, this isn't directed towards you in any way, you seem to be on top of things. But as a company, you guys have a few bad apples.
But Best Buy has way more ;]
same with circuit city, comp usa, and dont get me started on frys.

Its retail, don't expect perfect service.
We have been getting some complaints regarding our customer and technical support. Each and every case is looked into individually to see where we can improve.
I think we can improve on many facets of our company, and we are doing what we can to do so. That being said, it isn't something that is doable overnight, but we are taking some aggressive measures to ensure that these kind of issues are resolved.
I am glad that there are forums such as these that exist so that we can know our customers' likes and dislikes regarding our company and service. It is a very good way for us to know what you see as our shortcomings. This is a great way for us to take a look at what we are doing wrong and then try to rectify it.
Please believe me when I say that all the decision makers at Hypersonic see what is being said in these forums as well as other review sites, and take your posts seriously.

I will not respond directly to any of the accusations that Mikey has brought forth in this thread, as I do not think it appropriate and do not want to start a flame war.

I will say this, though:
1. Out of warranty repairs sometimes are costly.
2. Cursing and berating someone on the other end of the telephone will get you hung up on!

Pat.
post #5 of 18
Pat: Its good to know that you guys/gals are paying attention to the forums and stuff, but what happened? I mean did you guys/gals loose like a manager or something like that? I used to think that Hypersonic PC was one of the best boutiques, but now you guys have gone down like 3.9 points on Reseller Ratings (I know thats not the most trusted site but 3.9 points is big, something had to happen). I'm not trying to start a flame war, I'm srsly wondering if you guys changed your buisness plan or something like that. If this comes out with a bad intent then I apologize, I did not mean that to happen.
post #6 of 18
MY QUESTION IS ..........you got your laptop 2004...3 yrs ago...you just joined here this month and are complaining about an old system......dont get me wrong........I have an EX7 I am not happy with .....but I dont understand why it
took you 3 years........


I just dont see myself buying from Hypersonic again....I would love to be the one in charge of Hypersonic.....first thing I would move it out of New York and to Atlanta area (cheaper cost of living and that drives wages down a bit) and make some big changes in personel.......I owned my own business at one time in Florida and had excellant customer relations and repeat customers, and word of mouth made it so I didnt even have to advertise..matter of fact I had a small yellow page listing......(I was in the electrical/ electronic repair feild had some major nation wide banks as customers).....I could turn Hypersonic around and put it up there with Falcon Northwest on customer satisfaction......I dont know what problems Hypersnic has but there are some major problems ..none which cant be fixed

one problem easily fixed is their support page.....the driver section needs to post the date of release of an updated driver and should also state what fixes are involved in the driver update if any...right now they show the driver version and that makes the user have to look up their dirver version to see if they need it......when you post the date the user can tell more easily if its a newer driver than the one he has.....the after hours tech support is better than in house in my opinion...the in house support seem to be cold...even the girl who answers the phone whn you call customer support seems cold and acts like she dont want to be there and by you calling and asking questions you are inconviencing her...........I dont know..maybe its just the New York attitude and way of doing thingsup there, but I have yet to speak with a friendly person at Hypersonic...this is even before I got my laptop and while it was still being built.......Now the after hours tech guys everytime I called them ..they were personal and very friendly and took time to work with me.......honestly thats the one problem with many US companies.......they have forgotten the golden rule of business.....take care of the customer and do what ever it takes to make them happy.......friendly service can go a long ways...
post #7 of 18
Gee.. and I was thinking about spending 3000+ on the EQ7..... Any thing I should know before I do.....
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by Pat@Hypersonic View Post
We have been getting some complaints regarding our customer and technical support. Each and every case is looked into individually to see where we can improve.
I think we can improve on many facets of our company, and we are doing what we can to do so. That being said, it isn't something that is doable overnight, but we are taking some aggressive measures to ensure that these kind of issues are resolved.
I am glad that there are forums such as these that exist so that we can know our customers' likes and dislikes regarding our company and service. It is a very good way for us to know what you see as our shortcomings. This is a great way for us to take a look at what we are doing wrong and then try to rectify it.
Please believe me when I say that all the decision makers at Hypersonic see what is being said in these forums as well as other review sites, and take your posts seriously.

I will not respond directly to any of the accusations that Mikey has brought forth in this thread, as I do not think it appropriate and do not want to start a flame war.

I will say this, though:
1. Out of warranty repairs sometimes are costly.
2. Cursing and berating someone on the other end of the telephone will get you hung up on!

Pat.

/agree with you 100% Pat, but still I've had my machine for 2 years and the DVD recovery i pad for never worked, you sent 3 new copies and none of those worked either. Then last PM i got from you the these forums over a year ago you stated you would have another made up and that your imaging system had been upgraded and it was not going to be a problem, yet i still never recieved a working copy. That is a ver y simple process for your company to fix, yet they couldn't even do tht.
post #9 of 18
Trying to get through to tech support via email and telephone is almost impossible. I've called multiple times and have been nothing but nice, and yet no one can return my phone calls? I was supposed to get my rma weeks ago, and I'm still waiting on a call back from one of the technicians. I'm starting to think I deserve a refund of some sort here. I spend over $4000 on a computer that breaks down seasonally? Im sorry but that just doesnt cut it.
post #10 of 18
Towards Mikey. I understand how frustrating it is because I had to deal with compusa for my Acer laptop. My warranty was up and the closest computer store to my college campus was compusa. And boy... I learned never to take stuff there.

You really should show curtesy especially when they have YOUR laptop. And whether or not it gets fixed is of their concern. Granted you did pay for it. But chances are they're gonna look at it and think basically no one will sue them for taking a long time, etc, etc. Why? It's not worth it. It'd be cheaper to go buy a dell, gateway, etc.

To Pat. From what I've read...You are trying your best to fix things and get problems resolved. I'm sorry to say this but TRYING your hardest sometimes just doesn't mean crap. I mean i can try my hardest and still get a B on a test. What customers care about is getting their problems solved. I am willing to bet that if you pull a random customer out of your consumer list, none of them would care how hard you work. I'm sorry to say this but society is filled with selfish people who care only about themselves.

It is things like this that makes people (who are not hardcore gamers) build their own desktops. Why? Because if anything breaks, they can fix it themselves. I mean seriously. I bought myself a HP desktop. Thought it would save me the time of having to build my own system... Boy was I wrong. I spent so much time sifting through their crap load of preloaded software that it made it completely not time saving at all.

Mikey... before talking smack about companies and their tech support... please ask yourself are you being polite. People are much much much more willing to help if they get RESPECT.

Pat... I understand running a company is hard. But people only want results. They want their problems fixed. That's all they want. Your tech support agents should have provided that labor breakdown. That's professional curtesy.
post #11 of 18
I love my Hypersonic CX7 and have not had a single problem with it. I do feel for you though, I've had bad experiences with pc's and customer service before.
post #12 of 18
Just want to let you guys know that Pat took down my order number and got my RMA to me. I'll be shipping it out tommorow.
post #13 of 18
I think this thread should be over. Look at the original poster:

MikeyDL
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1

He just needed a place to vent. I know I have done it here on several occasions about my FX7. But I also try to offer advice or insite when I can about anything, I just don't remember to check the forumns but maybe once or twice a month.
post #14 of 18
Has anyone seen the latest Hypersonic stories on Reseller Ratings? =/ Kind of shatters my confidence in buying another system..
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by MikeyDL View Post
I"m sure that some people have had a good system purchase from Hypersonic. My purchase has been an absolute nightmare. I purchased a Hypersonic PC Aviator AX7 back in July of 2004. I immediately started having problems with wireless LAN card which didn't seem to work. Working with Hypersonic tech support is pretty difficult. As an accountant with a minor IT background my knowledge base is adequate for building and installing new systems. The Hypersonic tech staff seemed to far lower knowledgebase then I did as a part time secondary IT person! To make a long story short, my Aviator AX7 has had THREE motherboard replacements! Each tech episode with Hypersonic has been extremely difficult requring me to be extremely demanding in order to get them to fix the problem. Finally after two years (of which six months have been spent in Hypersonic location to get fixed) my system went dead again! This third time took numerous calls on my part to find out the status. I had asked to be notified on the potential costs involved but as usual Hypersonic never returned any of my calls. After 2.5 months of calling they finally stated that it had been repaired. The downside was that I was expected to shell out another 1K in repair costs. The support person refused to give me a breakout of labor versus parts on the repairs. They barely acknowledged that this was the third motherboard replacement on the unit. When I said I wasn't going to shell out an additional 1K on a lemon unit and asked to speak to a manager they hung up on me! Welcome to Hypersonic support. I've sent e-mail to their support e-mail address but as yet they haven't been answered. In addition to all the problems in trying to get ahold of them and dealing with a lethargic staff who cares not the least about your system problems. They also actively engage in fraud (as far as I'm concerned). When trying to slap on additional charges to the user they end up blaming the customer and claim that you have "liquid damage" (i.e. spilled coffee of something) on the unit and the damage is really your fault! They pulled this trick out twice on me. The first time the system was under warranty and I only had it a few days. I guess they were trying to get more funds for the extra repair work they did on replacing the unit. So my warning is buyer beware! If you end up getting one of there lemon systems which quickly goes dead don't spend too much time trying to get if fixed. Demand a refund as soon as possible or you will end up looking 2.5K on a worthless system like I did! If you do end up getting ripped off by them at least put in a consumer complaint with the New York Better Busines Bureau so other potential buyers can be warned.
I feel the same as you do, I finaly resolved some of my heat issues.....I changed the RAID-0 to just 2 seperate drives c: and d:...this dropped the heat a little but all in all I am very disapointed with Hypersonic...and you are right about the rude customer service...I experienced that from day one...I should have took that as a hint and not ordered a laptop from them...I will never buy another computer from them...I build my own desktops but I buy my laptops.....My EX7 surely wasnt worth the 4 grand I paid for it...its a very poor computer for the cost...I bought my wife a Toshiba Qosmio for half what I paid for the Hypersonic and its a whole hell of alot better system than my EX7...it was a costly lesson......Hyper was just bought out by another company and I e-mailed the new owner explaining all my problems and issues with the product..customer support..tech support ect and explained that they have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to regain or keep customers...I suggested they fire the whole lot and start from scratch..well all except for Pat here.....Pat wanted me to send it in for checking and repair but after the horror stories I read here ..I decided to just let this be a lesson......their tech support was suppose to call me back and its been almost a year an a half and havent heard a thing........shame is since I dont build anything but desktops here, people always ask me who should they buy a laptop from.....I have sent 22 people to toshiba in the last year.....I have a great reputation here for building desktops and repairing computers and I could not risk that by sending them to hypersonic...no way could I recomend Hypersonic..no way....the new owners of Hypersonic need overhaul the current situation there in New York..maybe even move the operation somewhere else...I did suggest they move it to Georgia...we have great respectfull people here that will do a great job for them... http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-system-vendor OCZ bought Hypersonic....
post #16 of 18
Hey! That's good news. OCZ is supposed to be known for their attention to customer support. Hope it holds true.

This does beg the question though of what boutique laptop vendors are still independent? Who was it that HP bought, Falcon-NW? Is Voodoo still indie?

No my bad, it was the other way around. HP owns Voodoo, Dell owns Alienware, now OCZ owns Hyper. At least Sager is still indie.

Noticed that Hypersonic is now advertising "OCZ Freeze" on its laptops instead of Arctic Silver 5. Did they buy up AS as well?
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by chode messiah View Post
Just want to let you guys know that Pat took down my order number and got my RMA to me. I'll be shipping it out tommorow.
Pat perhaps you could step in and send me my shipping number; Since at least a week before this quoted post I've been without my laptop. This is going on 5 or 6 months now. What gives?
post #18 of 18
Update: Called OCZ and Hypersonic and apparently my laptop was under a pile of boxes ready to be shipped (computers said I still needed the refurbed card). They are shipping it out today and I should get it by the end of the week. Seriously, under boxes? You guys need to run a tighter ship or something.
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